Now Beye in bust up....

[eamonn]

Dickhead Nursey is probably hot on the scent of the next training ground bust up scoop which will be Mohammed Salifou refusing to take part in shooting practice.

Is that a reference to the Togo team bus being ambushed earlier in the year?! If so, I admit to laughing. Sorry.

[Chris Smith]

I was going to say that it's about time a manager got his balls out to show everyone; put the over-paid prima donna's in their place and make them realise that it's a privilige and an honour to play for Aston Villa; that they're lucky to have us rather than the other way around.

But then, Houllier's Liverpool antics show's that he doesn't quite believe that Villa are big enough either.

Still, if 'do as I say, not as I do' gets results, who gives a fuck?

Beye has been out of the squad, Dunne got droppend and Ireland was left out of the squad altogether. Sounds to me like the manager has been showing then who the boss is.

[eastie]

totally agree chris , having read the book about houllier its very similar to when he took sole control of liverpool and dismantled the spice boys image and got rid of the trouble makers- well done mr houllier !

[Villa'Zawg]

looking back its amazing Lerner gave him such a free hand with contracts. On the plus side we bought young and milner for reasonable amounts to what they're worth now, but thats more than cancelled out by the wages and fee's lost on the likes of Davies, Sidwell, Harewood etc... All that "won't pay over the odds" guff was pretty much fiction.

 
[Comment From oli oli : ]
who controls contract talks at villa??
Tuesday December 14, 2010 18:56 oli
18:58
   
General Krulak:
oli: The Manager, Paul, the Club secretary, the finance people, the legal/contract people and, of course, Randy is kept in the loop the entire time. As you can see, it is not just one person.

[Ger Regan]

[Comment From oli oli : ]
who controls contract talks at villa??
Tuesday December 14, 2010 18:56 oli
18:58
   
General Krulak:
oli: The Manager, Paul, the Club secretary, the finance people, the legal/contract people and, of course, Randy is kept in the loop the entire time. As you can see, it is not just one person.

That doesn't in any way mean that this is what happened during MON's time. Plus there's a hell of a difference between being kept in the loop and who has the final say on contract details.

[Chris Smith]

[Comment From oli oli : ]
who controls contract talks at villa??
Tuesday December 14, 2010 18:56 oli
18:58
   
General Krulak:
oli: The Manager, Paul, the Club secretary, the finance people, the legal/contract people and, of course, Randy is kept in the loop the entire time. As you can see, it is not just one person.

That doesn't in any way mean that this is what happened during MON's time. Plus there's a hell of a difference between being kept in the loop and who has the final say on contract details.

Well we've not really done a lot of transfer dealing since MON left so when else is he talking about?

[Greg N'Ash]

MON had the final say on who arrived and what they were paid, more's the pity. when lerner woke up and started querying it was when MON started playing up

[Ger Regan]

Well we've not really done a lot of transfer dealing since MON left so when else is he talking about?

There's been a number of new contracts agreed over the last few weeks.

[Chris Smith]

MON had the final say on who arrived and what they were paid, more's the pity. when lerner woke up and started querying it was when MON started playing up

That's good enough for me. If anyone understands the internal workings of Aston Villa it's Greg Nash.

[Ger Regan]

That's good enough for me. If anyone understands the internal workings of Aston Villa it's Greg Nash.

I thought that MON's need for complete and utter control was one of the (very) few universally-accepted things on here. Obviously not.

[Chris Smith]

Well we've not really done a lot of transfer dealing since MON left so when else is he talking about?

There's been a number of new contracts agreed over the last few weeks.

Good point, I didn't take account of those. Still I would be amazed if the policy has changed greatly. If the people that the General mentions weren't involved previously then that would appear negligent on their behalf.

[Greg N'Ash]

MON had the final say on who arrived and what they were paid, more's the pity. when lerner woke up and started querying it was when MON started playing up

That's good enough for me. If anyone understands the internal workings of Aston Villa it's Greg Nash.

hang on, when myself and others mentioned bringing in help on transfers you yourself used to lecture us on how MON would never stand for any sort of interferance and would walk out. Now apparently he was just part of a commitee....how times change.

[Chris Smith]

That's good enough for me. If anyone understands the internal workings of Aston Villa it's Greg Nash.

I thought that MON's need for complete and utter control was one of the (very) few universally-accepted things on here. Obviously not.

I'm sure he had a big say but the suggestion that he was given free reign over finances doesn't seem likely.

[LeeB]

MON may well be a ******, and I'd like to tell him him that directly, but I think a few people are too quick to call him the boogeyman and blame him for all of the clubs ills.

[Villa'Zawg]

That's good enough for me. If anyone understands the internal workings of Aston Villa it's Greg Nash.

I thought that MON's need for complete and utter control was one of the (very) few universally-accepted things on here. Obviously not.

MON's complete and utter control of finance became universally-accepted on the first day of pre-season training when the General came on here and said we needed to get a grip of wages. Before that, Randy Lerner was universally acclaimed for doing a remarkably good job with managing the club finances and investing in the squad.