Other "mobs" turning up

[pauliewalnuts]

The mention of Middlesbrough reminds me of when they use to play at Ayresome Park .The two or three times i went there,hundreds of them were waiting at the station for us as we got off the train. No police to be seen anywhere and most of their mob seemed  to be 6ft plus and skinheads A lot of us got a good kicking.

I've mentioned this before but me a mate came off the train there and the old bill wanted to know if we were Villa. When we replied yes, they threw us into the back of a van. The police up there are like no where else in the country. They drove us to the ground, dropped us off in front of the away end and arranged to pick us up after the game and take us back to the station. I'm pretty sure it's the 88 game Paulie mentions. Jack Charlton was in a box above us doing the TV commentary.

I remember that game as the only place I have been searched on entry and had them go through my box of matches, checking for bad things.

After the game, they held us in the sorted of walled off courtyard at the back of the stand and they started chucking all sorts of shit over the wall at us.

[clash city rocker]

Remember there were quite a few dutch in Rotterdam supporting us

[pooligan]

Another ground i hated going to, was Valley Parade Bradford. i remember the 3rd division game there when we won 1-0 with Charlie Aitken getting the goal if i remember correctly. I remember getting into the open away end of the ground around 2 o clock .There was a decent following of villa fans as always and there was a bit of banter between us and the Bradford fans at the other end of the ground

All of a sudden hundreds of their fans charged down the pitch and into our end and all hell was let loose. Most of us ran into the half way line stand and hid amongst the home fans for the rest of the afternoon. I remember standing just in front of the seated section,talking to Jake Findley and Bobby Macdonald who i knew fairly well .

Every thing was ok until we scored and some villa fans below us cheered when we scored .Oh my god,that did it, within a few minutes ,gangs of their fans invaded where we were, looking for us .One of their fans got stabbed and i can remember a few of our lads getting a good kicking .From then until the final whistle i spent the time watching who was next to me rather than the match

After the match there was a fair walk back to the coach and hundreds of their fans were awaiting us .I dont mind admitting i was terrified and did not fancy the walk back to the coach .To this day i dont know how i got back to the coach without getting a kicking

[Dave Clark Five]

Bolton away in approx 1972.
Mob off the Special got in early, in the open end.
Decided to cross the pitch to the Lever End, which was quite empty at the time.
When we got in there, a bloke told me that it was an unwise move.
Slowly, the open end filled with a mob of Bolton, all together by the side.
As soon as the gates opened, they were round attacking us. All hell let loose but I managed to jump over into a paddock. Had a couple of grim times there, one the week after one of their fans had murdered a Blackpool fan. They didn't like reminding about this but I was very fleet of foot in those days and they didn't find me hiding in the burger hut outside the ground.

[danlanza]

I remember that Mark - there were always rumours that the Noses were turning up - usually rubbish of course.

I remember they did turn up at an away match with Coventry, would have been mid to late eighties.

I also remember getting off the train from Cov at New St in the late 80s with Blose waiting at the station.

Yeah I remember that one, we were pushed out the back way of New Street and they were all by the theatre chucking stuff.

I was there. Ended up on the wrong end of a luggage carrying trolley that came through the train window.
Got the bastards back on the ramp by McDonalds though, a right brawl ensued, saying no more.

[pooligan]

I remember that game at Bolton DCF . It certainly turned out to be a unwise move to take their Lever End . I always remember a villa fan who i knew by the name of "Muffin " just standing there in the middle of their end without,it appeared,a care in the world.He was either hard or just drunk !

I heard a rumour that a lot of them fans who charged across the pitch that day,were United fans looking for revenge for one or two bloody battles that had taken place with Villa mobs on  some of the services on the M6 AND M1

[Dave Clark Five]

I remember that game at Bolton DCF . It certainly turned out to be a unwise move to take their Lever End . I always remember a villa fan who i knew by the name of "Muffin " just standing there in the middle of their end without,it appeared,a care in the world.He was either hard or just drunk !

I heard a rumour that a lot of them fans who charged across the pitch that day,were United fans looking for revenge for one or two bloody battles that had taken place with Villa mobs on  some of the services on the M6 AND M1

I remember Muffin. I think his real name was Brian Wall. Long hair and bearded. Used to go on the Travellers Club. I've got a picture of him in an old programme somewhere.

[Dave Clark Five]

I remember that game at Bolton DCF . It certainly turned out to be a unwise move to take their Lever End . I always remember a villa fan who i knew by the name of "Muffin " just standing there in the middle of their end without,it appeared,a care in the world.He was either hard or just drunk !

I heard a rumour that a lot of them fans who charged across the pitch that day,were United fans looking for revenge for one or two bloody battles that had taken place with Villa mobs on  some of the services on the M6 AND M1

I remember Muffin. I think his real name was Brian Wall. Long hair and bearded. Used to go on the Travellers Club. I've got a picture of him in an old programme somewhere.

Here is the first:

[Dave Clark Five]

Here is the other one:

[TopDeck113]

The match at Ayresome Park on Valentines Day 1988 wasn't a lot of fun, to be honest. There seemed to be at most 300 of us there (it was a Sunday game, one of the rare live games you'd see on telly back then).

And we lost, too.

I was there!

[TopDeck113]

Not exactly a mob, but one of the first examples I remember of the terrace culture beginning to change was a few weeks prior to that Boro game.  We were playing at Maine Road and about every other game in the north of England had been called off because of ice and snow.  Wimbledon - lest we forget, playing in the division above us and destined to win the Cup at the end of the season - had their game at Everton called off quite late on, so their entire away following (two mini buses...) joined us in the Platt Lane supporting the Villa.  Regardless of whatever was subsequently said about their club, and the fact that they had a hex sign over us for must of the early 90s, I always had a soft spot for them because of that.

[pooligan]

Thanks for the picture of "Muffin" DCF. Do you remember the likes of Slim ,Mousey and the one and only Bobby Packer ?

[Dave Clark Five]

Thanks for the picture of "Muffin" DCF. Do you remember the likes of Slim ,Mousey and the one and only Bobby Packer ?

I remember Mousey, although Rosco tells me that there were two Mouseys. The one that I am thinking of used to lead the Villa mob at away games. I can't remember the other two by name but am sure my memory could be jogged. DP is one Mousey.

[pooligan]

Yes i think we are on about the same Mousey DCF, He was always at the front of the mob at away games. At the Millwall away game where we drew 1-1 and Jimmy Cumbes was hit by a piece of coal he nearly got our coach smashed. We had parked in a side street just past the station and as the coach passed the station for home,he shouted out the window to their mob,who started legging it after the coach. I remember there were some traffic lights  a few yards down the roadand they were on red and our coach driver went straight through them .He knew if he stopped he would jhave had his coach smashed up

[willywombat]

Didn't he end up throwing his lot in with the blues?