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Offline Legion

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Re: Ashley Young: Staying or going?
« Reply #210 on: November 22, 2010, 08:36:03 PM »
I doubt it. He's English.

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Re: Ashley Young: Staying or going?
« Reply #211 on: November 22, 2010, 08:43:19 PM »
We must have the thickest fans going, only Villa fans would want to sell their best player. Jeez!

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Re: Ashley Young: Staying or going?
« Reply #212 on: November 22, 2010, 08:45:55 PM »
We must have the thickest fans going, only Villa fans would want to sell their best player. Jeez!
I dont think that many want him sold but he is running down his contract and his vale depreciates with evry transfer window

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Re: Ashley Young: Staying or going?
« Reply #213 on: November 22, 2010, 08:46:25 PM »
Would anyone actually want to sell him even if he was prepared to commit to the club?
Lets say for £15m?

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Re: Ashley Young: Staying or going?
« Reply #214 on: November 22, 2010, 08:49:57 PM »
I've read plenty of comments alluding to the fact he's wasteful and we could easily replace him. We should see what happens in the summer and certainly not be looking to sell in January. As for money, I personally don't care. It's not our problem to run the club financially yet people carry on like they're playing some sort of PC management game.

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Re: Ashley Young: Staying or going?
« Reply #215 on: November 22, 2010, 09:28:31 PM »
He will have to be sold next summer if he refuses to sign a new contract.

It's a fact of life.

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Re: Ashley Young: Staying or going?
« Reply #216 on: November 22, 2010, 10:10:41 PM »
Indeed, but that's a long way off and selling him any sooner would be lunacy.

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Re: Ashley Young: Staying or going?
« Reply #217 on: November 22, 2010, 10:20:13 PM »
Would anyone actually want to sell him even if he was prepared to commit to the club?
Lets say for £15m?


Not if he wanted to stay, no.

Even if we were offered £25-£30 mill, if he was happy here we should tell whoever came up with the bid to trap.

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Re: Ashley Young: Staying or going?
« Reply #218 on: November 22, 2010, 10:59:02 PM »
I've read plenty of comments alluding to the fact he's wasteful and we could easily replace him. We should see what happens in the summer and certainly not be looking to sell in January. As for money, I personally don't care. It's not our problem to run the club financially yet people carry on like they're playing some sort of PC management game.
sadly its come to that, i hate it as well, and i have never understood the philosiphy of short term contracts, sign a player for 4 years at the end of the second year you have to renegotiate because another season and the return you can get starts to depreciate rapidly

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Re: Ashley Young: Staying or going?
« Reply #219 on: November 22, 2010, 11:10:44 PM »
Would anyone actually want to sell him even if he was prepared to commit to the club?
Lets say for £15m?


Not if he wanted to stay, no.

Even if we were offered £25-£30 mill, if he was happy here we should tell whoever came up with the bid to trap.
the crazy thing now is that the wage comitment is more critical than the transfer price, say chelsea offer Young £5 mil a year for 4 years thats £20mil so we can match that or take £15 mil now, thats a £35mil swing, twist or stick?

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Re: Ashley Young: Staying or going?
« Reply #220 on: November 22, 2010, 11:45:19 PM »
Would anyone actually want to sell him even if he was prepared to commit to the club?
Lets say for £15m?


Not if he wanted to stay, no.

Even if we were offered £25-£30 mill, if he was happy here we should tell whoever came up with the bid to trap.
the crazy thing now is that the wage comitment is more critical than the transfer price, say chelsea offer Young £5 mil a year for 4 years thats £20mil so we can match that or take £15 mil now, thats a £35mil swing, twist or stick?
It's not really a 'swing' at all.

We need to then go out and buy a replacement. Let's call that £12m. We then need to pay that player. Let's call that £15m. We then need to hope that he fits into our team and structure as well as Young does.

Is that £7m worth the risk that he turns into another Riera or Tosic?

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Re: Ashley Young: Staying or going?
« Reply #221 on: November 23, 2010, 12:23:15 AM »
Would anyone actually want to sell him even if he was prepared to commit to the club?
Lets say for £15m?


Not if he wanted to stay, no.

Even if we were offered £25-£30 mill, if he was happy here we should tell whoever came up with the bid to trap.
the crazy thing now is that the wage comitment is more critical than the transfer price, say chelsea offer Young £5 mil a year for 4 years thats £20mil so we can match that or take £15 mil now, thats a £35mil swing, twist or stick?
It's not really a 'swing' at all.

We need to then go out and buy a replacement. Let's call that £12m. We then need to pay that player. Let's call that £15m. We then need to hope that he fits into our team and structure as well as Young does.

Is that £7m worth the risk that he turns into another Riera or Tosic?
i dont know,  its a gamble and £7mil is still a lot of money, managers back thier own judgements and get it wrong plenty of times but they believe that they will get it right, its not a perfect science, there is only one English club that can make those calls without any fear

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Re: Ashley Young: Staying or going?
« Reply #222 on: November 23, 2010, 02:46:07 AM »
If he wants out let him go. He hasn't impressed me in a long time.

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Re: Ashley Young: Staying or going?
« Reply #223 on: November 23, 2010, 09:50:33 AM »
Young did nothing much on Sunday and everytime Sky shot to him he just has this stinking attitude.

He's starting to piss me off more and more and if we sign a striker I'd have Downing & Albrighton on the wings ahead of Ash.

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Re: Ashley Young: Staying or going?
« Reply #224 on: November 23, 2010, 11:32:16 AM »
I'd be absolutely gutted if he left. Much more so than Milner or Barry. I think it'd be comparable to Yorkie, even if he's nowhere near as good.

If he does go, lets hope Ged can pull a Michel Bastos out of the hat though.

 


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