Ashley Young: Staying or going?

[hawkeye]

conflicting views about who he supports Arse or Spuds?

I'd say the suggestions that he supports Tottingham come from fcukwitt Tottenham fans themselves, as they assume everyone must support them even if they have been largely a complete non entity since the 60's. Probably no other club in world football has such a bloated an inaccurate sense of self. United fans often take stick for their breathtaking arrogance but they are genuinely a huge club and can back it up. Chelsea fans are often utterly dislikeable but they at least seem aware that their dining at the top table is a relatively recent phenomenon.

I read quotes soon after he joined that he was an Arsenal fan as a kid and Ian Wright was his favourite player.

Not that it's necessarily a huge factor in making a career decision as Californian Villlain points out. But if he wanted to join Tottenham to fulfil a lifelong dream he had a very good chance in Jan 2007. As Curtis Davies did a few months later and countless other players who found it easy enough to tell them to get facked.

no he didnt have the chance to join tottenham, only villa and west ham offered the asking price he chose villa, fact

[Mazrim]

He could played his face up to join Spurs if he wanted to. He didnt.
They were definitely interested.

[hawkeye]

He could played his face up to join Spurs if he wanted to. He didnt.
They were definitely interested.

Yes if you believe the papers, on this subject I have a lot more knowledge, spurs did not bid they inquired, it came down to agreing terms he chose villa, fact

[KevinGage]

conflicting views about who he supports Arse or Spuds?

I'd say the suggestions that he supports Tottingham come from fcukwitt Tottenham fans themselves, as they assume everyone must support them even if they have been largely a complete non entity since the 60's. Probably no other club in world football has such a bloated an inaccurate sense of self. United fans often take stick for their breathtaking arrogance but they are genuinely a huge club and can back it up. Chelsea fans are often utterly dislikeable but they at least seem aware that their dining at the top table is a relatively recent phenomenon.

I read quotes soon after he joined that he was an Arsenal fan as a kid and Ian Wright was his favourite player.

Not that it's necessarily a huge factor in making a career decision as Californian Villlain points out. But if he wanted to join Tottenham to fulfil a lifelong dream he had a very good chance in Jan 2007. As Curtis Davies did a few months later and countless other players who found it easy enough to tell them to get facked.

no he didnt have the chance to join tottenham, only villa and west ham offered the asking price he chose villa, fact

Means fcuk all.

Blackburn offered more than us to sign Dion Dublin from Coventry in 1998.

Dion wanted to come here = they eventually accepted the lower offer.

Countless other deals have gone the same way.

[hawkeye]

conflicting views about who he supports Arse or Spuds?

I'd say the suggestions that he supports Tottingham come from fcukwitt Tottenham fans themselves, as they assume everyone must support them even if they have been largely a complete non entity since the 60's. Probably no other club in world football has such a bloated an inaccurate sense of self. United fans often take stick for their breathtaking arrogance but they are genuinely a huge club and can back it up. Chelsea fans are often utterly dislikeable but they at least seem aware that their dining at the top table is a relatively recent phenomenon.

I read quotes soon after he joined that he was an Arsenal fan as a kid and Ian Wright was his favourite player.

Not that it's necessarily a huge factor in making a career decision as Californian Villlain points out. But if he wanted to join Tottenham to fulfil a lifelong dream he had a very good chance in Jan 2007. As Curtis Davies did a few months later and countless other players who found it easy enough to tell them to get facked.

no he didnt have the chance to join tottenham, only villa and west ham offered the asking price he chose villa, fact

Means fcuk all.

Blackburn offered more than us to sign Dion Dublin from Coventry in 1998.

Dion wanted to come here = they eventually accepted the lower offer.

Countless other deals have gone the same way.

Spurs did not bid, as i said earlier i have knowledge, i wont post it on open forum, if you want to PM me i will fill you in, but please dont argue on a point where you have no clue about what actually happened

[KevinGage]

Forgive me, when I see fact on the end of a sentence that is at best an interpretation of events or second guessing I usually assume I'm either (a) talking to a moron or (b) on Villa Talk or both (not suggesting that you're a moron or that we're on Villa talk, you understand).

I'll assume that your contact must be Martin O'Neill, Daniel Comoli, Martin Jol or Ashley Young himself because no one else would definitely know one way or the other.

If it's friend of a friend Talksport might be interested though. Give them a bash.

It was reported at the time across various vaguely reliable papers (Guardian/ Indo et.c) that Spurs had bid and were keen, but didn't want to get drawn into an auction.

[hawkeye]

Forgive me, when I see fact on the end of a sentence that is at best an interpretation of events or second guessing I usually assume I'm either (a) talking to a moron or (b) on Villa Talk or both (not suggesting that you're a moron or that we're on Villa talk, you understand).

I'll assume that your contact must be Martin O'Neill, Daniel Comoli, Martin Jol or Ashley Young himself because no one else would definitely know one way or the other.

If it's friend of a friend Talksport might be interested though. Give them a bash.

It was reported at the time across various vaguely reliable papers (Guardian/ Indo et.c) that Spurs had bid and were keen, but didn't want to get drawn into an auction.

sad that you find it necessary to use that language, i have allways found your contributions worthwhile, maybe you are having a bad day

[Mazrim]

He could played his face up to join Spurs if he wanted to. He didnt.
They were definitely interested.

Yes if you believe the papers, on this subject I have a lot more knowledge, spurs did not bid they inquired, it came down to agreing terms he chose villa, fact

Nothing to do with the papers, which I rarely hold any stock in.
I had something like "the scoop" on this at the time (as well as Maloney) so you can check if you like.
Official bid or not, Spurs made it clear they were after him to Watford and Young but that they werent going to pay what Villa and West Ham were.
They were trying it on in the hope he'd refuse to move to Villa or West Ham and thus force a move to Spurs for less.
If we're talking facts there's a 24k one you cant take to cashmyfacts.

[stevenjos]

so we lose another good player.... good times.

[Mazrim]

Has he gone then, Sad sack?

[hawkeye]

He could played his face up to join Spurs if he wanted to. He didnt.
They were definitely interested.

Yes if you believe the papers, on this subject I have a lot more knowledge, spurs did not bid they inquired, it came down to agreing terms he chose villa, fact

Nothing to do with the papers, which I rarely hold any stock in.
I had something like "the scoop" on this at the time so you can check if you like.
Official bid or not, Spurs made it clear they were after him to Watford and Young but that they werent going to pay what Villa and West Ham were.
They were trying it on in the hope he'd refuse to move to Villa or West Ham and thus force a move to Spurs for less.
If we're talking facts there's a 24k one you cant take to cashmyfacts.

i have absoloutely no idea what your last sentance means, this is the usual response from posters when you make a statement and then try and back it up, i know what went on, i wont disclose my sources publicly,

[Mazrim]

I know what "went on" too and couldn't have been more candid about it. I was then and I am now. Like I said, you can check.
My source was a Villa player who is no longer at the club.

What exactly is it that I've said which you dont believe?

[hawkeye]

I know what "went on" too and couldn't have been more candid about it. I was then and I am now. Like I said, you can check.
My source was a Villa player who is no longer at the club.

What exactly is that I've said you dont believe?

i didnt mention believe, you went on the attack, spurs inquired, were quoted Ł8mil, did not bid West Ham and Villa did, the player had 2 options, he chose villa

[hawkeye]

oh are you calling me sad sack?

[KevinGage]

As I recall it Tottingham made a really derisory offer of Callum Davenport, Routledge and a few extra million tacked on.

Watford said get facked and eventually accepted our offer (which was lower than West Ham's) as the player wanted to come here (partly on Boothroyd's recommendation, which is unusual).

As Maz says, had Ash been so desperate to force the issue he could have played for time and waited for Tottenham to either come back with an improved offer or wait for Watford to buckle.