Aston Villa v The Blues Post-Match Thread

[Somniloquism]

Don't forget Gardner the Liar's handball in the penalty box in the second-half - the ref was never going to give it after not giving them a penalty.

What Foster did was a disgrace, did he even get a yellow card? I can't remember.

If the ref never gave a penalty indicating a foul why would he then proceed to book him?

[PeterWithe]

Just watching it again, nice to see them celebrating at the end like that, its  always like that when the minnows come to a big club like us and manage a point.

[The Situation]

Don't forget Gardner the Liar's handball in the penalty box in the second-half - the ref was never going to give it after not giving them a penalty.

What Foster did was a disgrace, did he even get a yellow card? I can't remember.

If the ref never gave a penalty indicating a foul why would he then proceed to book him?

lol, I have no idea what I was saying there.

Still, what Foster did was a disgrace and how he got away with what he did is pretty poor from the referee, but that doesn't surprise me though because Howard Webb is an awful referee and vastly overrated. Gardner, Foster and Zigic could of all easily been sent off today, especially that scrote Gardner who should of been booked again after fouling Coker again.

[AV82EC]

Situ

NRC should ahve gone for his retaliation as well.

[The Situation]

No he shouldn't, Gardner the scrote deserved what he got after fouling Coker again... Gardner should have got his second-yellow and been on walking down the tunnel*

*I did not clearly see the lash out, my mate sitting next to me said "I think Coker might get sent off for that". When I see the lash out properly in a bit I'll make a judgement then.

I love Coker though, showed so much passion today and played well. You've got to laugh when some morons were shouting "Shooooooot" with the ball dropping to him from 30 yards out lol.

[Somniloquism]

After seeing the Foster Clark incident for the first time there is no way that would ever be called a penalty. The ball was well away before the hit. If he had clattered Clark as he headed it then there might have been something in it.

[NorthYvillan]

After seeing the Foster Clark incident for the first time there is no way that would ever be called a penalty. The ball was well away before the hit. If he had clattered Clark as he headed it then there might have been something in it.

Isn't it the fact that it was so late that makes it a possible penalty?

[olaftab]

After seeing the Foster Clark incident for the first time there is no way that would ever be called a penalty. The ball was well away before the hit. If he had clattered Clark as he headed it then there might have been something in it.

Agreed.  Watching it live from the North Stand I saw Clark able to head the ball completely unobstructed before Foster piled into him. Not for a second i thought it was  a penalty.

[Dave Cooper please]

Mate has just txt me asking if it was true that Reo broke Gardner's nose in the tunnel? Anyone heard anything?

Please let this be true!

Oh yes, please let it be true that our captain acted like an unprofessional ******.

[olaftab]

My take on the game....it was mega bollocks.....and also how the feck did sidwell end up at a big club like chelsea.....

Either you are taking the piss or you are  under 18?

[Dave Cooper please]

After seeing the Foster Clark incident for the first time there is no way that would ever be called a penalty. The ball was well away before the hit. If he had clattered Clark as he headed it then there might have been something in it.

Isn't it the fact that it was so late that makes it a possible penalty?

Exactly. If the keeper had punched it away and then Clark had clattered him it would have been a foul against the keeper, and possibly a booking for Clark.
But as Percy says, these are never given so no point in arguing really.

[olaftab]

The ball was almost dead by the time Foster got to him. Clark made a mess of an easy scoring opportunity.

[Somniloquism]

After seeing the Foster Clark incident for the first time there is no way that would ever be called a penalty. The ball was well away before the hit. If he had clattered Clark as he headed it then there might have been something in it.

Isn't it the fact that it was so late that makes it a possible penalty?

Exactly. If the keeper had punched it away and then Clark had clattered him it would have been a foul against the keeper, and possibly a booking for Clark.
But as Percy says, these are never given so no point in arguing really.

If the keeper had punched the ball into play and he had been clattered then the ref would have called it as he would have stopped him from saving a possible follow on shot. I'm not arguing about it being a foul if Clark had pulled it down and been clattered. As for it being only keepers who get away with that, how many defenders slide into strikers just after they take a shot that is going wide?

[brontebilly]

Awful awful game. Credit Bham and McLeish, they came for a point and deserved it. With Larsson's deliveries they threatened too. Granted Heskey and Clark missed great chances and Young had a great effort but our attacks were isolated and there was never any sustained pressure. Main problem was our midfielders whose passing lacked any tempo and was so predictable. Sidwell and Reo Coker are just not comfortable in possession when the opposition presses them. Clark was a bit better but hid for a while too I thought. Difficult for our attackers today but Downing and Heskey were diabolically poor I felt.

Friedel 6 - nothing to do
Young 5 - not great in possession and had absolutely no understanding with downing
Collins 7 - our best player but Zigic is pretty crap
Dunne 5 - a quiet day too but was so lacklustre that time with Jerome
Warnock 5 - stupid booking, poor in first half but alright in second
Downing 3 - absolutely awful. I hate when he plays on the right.
Reo coker 4 - won a share of ball but got involved in a lot of stupid stuff and could have seen red
Sidwell 5 - won a good bit of ball too I felt but so predictable on it. Harsh subsitution perhaps
Clark 6 - started well and finished well. Should have scored and was the only midfielder with a semblance of composure on the ball. That he is a centre half says it all about the other two
Young 6 - generally shit but still provided the only two moment of quality in the game. Great pass for Heskey and brilliant run and shot near the end.
Heskey 3 - hopeless. held up the ball alright sometimes but lack of pace is a huge issue - Bham just pushed up. Caught offside stupidly on numerous occasions and never a threat in the box. We badly need Gabby back.

Bannan 6 - alright. at least looked for ball, had a shot, tried to be creative. very lightweight but promising enough.
Carew 6 - won a great header for Clark's chance. To be honest, even at his laziest and most frustrating he is more of a threat than Heskey.

thought for Bham, their centre halves did well, carr was very good in the first half, larsson has a great delivery and barry ferguson played his role well and was my MoTM. Ridgwell wasnt great and Gardner didnt get on the ball much. Zigic was hopeless. If your playing with a lone striker they need to be mobile.

[The Situation]

Haha Ridgewell was shitting himself at times when Ash was running at him, unlucky that Ash's shot hit the top of the post and didn't go in the roof of the net.

Oh well. Small Heath got what they wanted - they came here for a point, they didn't come to Villa Park for all 3 points, they were happy and content with 1 point. Kind of small time it is and there fans are delighted, but if they play that awful style of football they play for the rest of the season, they're in serious danger of being relegated. They can pack the midfield with as many players as they like, there is no attacking threat from them. Jerome did well for them when he came on - but that's about it. Zigic was just awful.