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Offline Andy Poole

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Re: Ashes 2010/11
« Reply #660 on: December 19, 2010, 07:01:08 PM »


Morgan should come in for Collingwood for Melbourne. 


I'd bring in Bresnan for Collingwood.

It's a tough one really because Collingwood is worth a good few runs in just the field alone. However Bresnan can bat a bit too and as long as he dosent have to come in at 150 for 7 he could be very useful holding up an end. I'd move Bell upto 5 and slot him in after Swann.

I think the reason the Crims won in Perth is because they had 4 pace men, some part time spin and Watson is quick to if needed.

I wouldn't drop Swann but in Perth he only got 2 wickets, Hussey and Hilfenhaus.

If Cricket Australia are looking to produce a similar wicket in Melbourne and they are, then we need 4 pace bowlers.

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Re: Ashes 2010/11
« Reply #661 on: December 19, 2010, 08:04:06 PM »


I'd bring in Bresnan for Collingwood.

It's a tough one really because Collingwood is worth a good few runs in just the field alone. However Bresnan can bat a bit too and as long as he dosent have to come in at 150 for 7 he could be very useful holding up an end. I'd move Bell upto 5 and slot him in after Swann.



Exactly the line-up we came up with in the pub earlier.

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Re: Ashes 2010/11
« Reply #662 on: December 19, 2010, 08:14:11 PM »


I'd bring in Bresnan for Collingwood.

It's a tough one really because Collingwood is worth a good few runs in just the field alone. However Bresnan can bat a bit too and as long as he dosent have to come in at 150 for 7 he could be very useful holding up an end. I'd move Bell upto 5 and slot him in after Swann.



Exactly the line-up we came up with in the pub earlier.

I'd agree with this - the Aussies think they've hit upon a formula to win back the ashes by preparing green fast bouncy wickets. I think we need a 5th bowler

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Re: Ashes 2010/11
« Reply #663 on: December 20, 2010, 08:47:54 AM »
I think we need a 5th bowler
Got to.
As i've said before, we're nowhere near good enough to play with just 4 front line bowlers.
We're not West Indies circa 1980 or Australia 1989 to 2007.

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Re: Ashes 2010/11
« Reply #664 on: December 20, 2010, 08:53:56 AM »
I think we need a 5th bowler
Got to.
As i've said before, we're nowhere near good enough to play with just 4 front line bowlers.
We're not West Indies circa 1980 or Australia 1989 to 2007.

There's certainly an argument for that but it was our batsmen who failed this time, not our bowlers. We took 20 wickets but didn't get any runs.

That said, I think the Aussies are going to keep trying to prepare wickets to attempt to neutralise Swann so we need a rethink.

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Re: Ashes 2010/11
« Reply #665 on: December 20, 2010, 09:23:48 AM »
I think we need a 5th bowler
Got to.
As i've said before, we're nowhere near good enough to play with just 4 front line bowlers.
We're not West Indies circa 1980 or Australia 1989 to 2007.

There's certainly an argument for that but it was our batsmen who failed this time, not our bowlers. We took 20 wickets but didn't get any runs.
This is true Chris, but it was arguably our lack of bowling options that helped them to come back off the ropes after being 69-5.
Had we skittled them out for less than 200, I reckon we'd have won.

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« Reply #666 on: December 20, 2010, 09:32:19 AM »
What England lack is a genuine all rounder. Woakes?

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Re: Ashes 2010/11
« Reply #667 on: December 20, 2010, 09:37:13 AM »
What England lack is a genuine all rounder. Woakes?

I'd say he's in the Broad mould, a bowler who can bat a bit. He might develop into an all rounder in time but it's too early to say he's there yet.

If we make a change then the Bresnan for Collingwood suggestion is the best one in my mind but we do lose our best fielder in the process.

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Re: Ashes 2010/11
« Reply #668 on: December 20, 2010, 10:14:38 AM »
I think we need a 5th bowler
Got to.
As i've said before, we're nowhere near good enough to play with just 4 front line bowlers.
We're not West Indies circa 1980 or Australia 1989 to 2007.

We've bowled Australia out cheaply on good pitches 4 innings in a row.

Whilst I might tinker with the idea of Shazhad for Finn, I think the 4 pronged bowling attack has done fine.
« Last Edit: December 20, 2010, 10:17:31 AM by taylorsworkrate »

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Re: Ashes 2010/11
« Reply #669 on: December 20, 2010, 10:45:52 AM »
They've changed the pitch for Melbourne. Blaming the wet weather over here (and it is a bit damp I must admit).

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Re: Ashes 2010/11
« Reply #670 on: December 20, 2010, 12:51:36 PM »
What England lack is a genuine all rounder. Woakes?
I'd say he's not much cop either way.

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Re: Ashes 2010/11
« Reply #671 on: December 20, 2010, 03:38:31 PM »
There are rumours Flower is going to rest Finn and bring in Bresnan.

Offline Andy Poole

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Re: Ashes 2010/11
« Reply #672 on: December 20, 2010, 09:04:34 PM »
What England lack is a genuine all rounder. Woakes?
I'd say he's not much cop either way.

Well he is in the Lions squad to tour the Windies early next year, before the World cup in the Sub Continent.

We are definately missing an all rounder, ala Fred. They knit a team together.

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Re: Ashes 2010/11
« Reply #673 on: December 20, 2010, 09:12:01 PM »
Someone needs to have a word with Straus, some very negative Captaincy, but some very poor bowling. I agreee that we need to go with 5 Bowlers Bresnan who can bat a bit and i would include Morgan. If Peterson does not perform then drop him for the 5th test

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Re: Ashes 2010/11
« Reply #674 on: December 21, 2010, 01:37:11 AM »
It would take a very brave (and possibly stupid) person to drop KP during this series.

 


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