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Offline taylorsworkrate

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Re: Ashes 2010/11
« Reply #630 on: December 18, 2010, 09:29:27 AM »
Absolutely pathetic shot from Pietersen. 

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Re: Ashes 2010/11
« Reply #631 on: December 18, 2010, 09:32:39 AM »
That definitely is it, we've batted very very poorly in this game. They've rested on their laurels.

Very true, to get bowled out twice cheaply (most probably) against this attack on a good pitch is really bad.  We should have got 300 to 350 first innings quite easily. 

Bowlers have done well, batsmen have let us down badly in this game. 

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Re: Ashes 2010/11
« Reply #632 on: December 18, 2010, 09:38:33 AM »
Got a horrible feeling this is a turning point in the series, 180 degree momentum swing.  I thought when Broad was injured and they let Anderson go away and get jetlagged that we might pay for this in this match, and we have.  Add to that the fact our batsmen have decided to remember they are Poms in Australia and play accordingly, and Johnson finding some form.  So true that you can't win a match in the 1st innings but you can lose one.

We had them down and out after the last match and could have crushed them here, like the Australia of old would have done to us, but we've let them off the hook and are going to pay for it.  Hopefully it pisses down in Melbourne and Sydney.

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Re: Ashes 2010/11
« Reply #633 on: December 18, 2010, 09:58:44 AM »
Our opening 4 batsman are out now, so game over.

The momentum has well and truly shifted to Australia, they have hammered us in this match. (well maybe Johnson has but he is an Aussie)

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Re: Ashes 2010/11
« Reply #634 on: December 18, 2010, 10:02:16 AM »
Right Collingwood has gone. This is appalling, Collingwood has to go he is in no form.

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Re: Ashes 2010/11
« Reply #635 on: December 18, 2010, 10:03:20 AM »
That is a truly cowardly batting performance. 

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Re: Ashes 2010/11
« Reply #636 on: December 18, 2010, 10:12:06 AM »
Gutless, and we have managed to completely shift the momentum of the series.

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Re: Ashes 2010/11
« Reply #637 on: December 18, 2010, 10:16:55 AM »
Pietersen reverted to type.

Still think the Aussies will go on to win the series.

Maybe the hysterical media will clam up a bit, Only Yesterday Atherton in the Times said
'Ponting has completely lost the ability to fight back.'

Another article mentioned the Collingwood catch and stated
'Is this the moment we retained the Ashes' ?

Same old England, as in football - Bottlers.

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Re: Ashes 2010/11
« Reply #638 on: December 18, 2010, 10:19:58 AM »
That is a truly cowardly batting performance. 

That's a bit harsh as I reckon only Pietersen and Colluingwood played poor shots.

What we need to remember is this is 4th against 5th in the world, we don't occupy those positions because we are consistant.

This series will ebb and flow like in 2009.  We've been well and truely turned over here, similar to us well and truely turning them over in Adelaide.  Only trouble is that they now have the momentum.

We'll need to re-group now for Melbourne but not press the panic button.  Two fairly average internatonal teams here so shit will happen.


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Re: Ashes 2010/11
« Reply #639 on: December 18, 2010, 10:22:12 AM »
I do think Collingwood needs to be dropped, his batting is too poor.

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Re: Ashes 2010/11
« Reply #640 on: December 18, 2010, 10:28:21 AM »
I do think Collingwood needs to be dropped, his batting is too poor.

It is a real worry, he looks like a walking wicket right now, poor foot movement, feeling for the ball outside off stump, their slip cordon know it's coming their way sooner or later.

Problem is he gives us some useful overs, especially when we only have 4 strong attack and he's good in the field.  Morgan wouldn't do this so that leaves us a problem.

We actually have a few problems now I reckon, Finn (although he's taken wickets) is looking like 5 Tests in 6 weeks might be too much for him, Tremlett lacks experience in big matches and Swann is very in and out, they are going after Swann all the time.

Strauss is having a tough series with one highlight innings out of 5, same for Pietersen.  These guys are the lynch pins of our batting imo. They must fire for us.

The good news is that they aren't world beaters either, Ponting and Clarke can't buy a run between them, their opener is hugely suspect as is their no 6, they have a long tail and no spinner.

Like i said, 4th against 5th so you'll get a tight series but not neccesarilly tight Test matches.
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Re: Ashes 2010/11
« Reply #641 on: December 18, 2010, 10:57:46 AM »
With Bell coming in as No 7 he has no back up. Same as the first innings he has to hot out and get out or watch them fall around him.
 Think they should move him up to 5 and put Collingwood down to 6

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Re: Ashes 2010/11
« Reply #642 on: December 18, 2010, 10:59:52 AM »
Fuck me. 

Wasn't about this time that a week ago we were all reckoning on us having retained the Urn? 

I only hope that this is like Headingley last time round and we come back the stronger next Test.

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Re: Ashes 2010/11
« Reply #643 on: December 18, 2010, 11:03:52 AM »
What we need to remember is this is 4th against 5th in the world
That's the truth of it, yet they've been built up as if they are the best in the world.

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Re: Ashes 2010/11
« Reply #644 on: December 18, 2010, 11:15:45 AM »
That is a truly cowardly batting performance. 

That's a bit harsh as I reckon only Pietersen and Colluingwood played poor shots.

What we need to remember is this is 4th against 5th in the world, we don't occupy those positions because we are consistant.

This series will ebb and flow like in 2009.  We've been well and truely turned over here, similar to us well and truely turning them over in Adelaide.  Only trouble is that they now have the momentum.

We'll need to re-group now for Melbourne but not press the panic button.  Two fairly average internatonal teams here so shit will happen.



I thought Trott's shot was pretty poor aswell. 

I don't go along with the average international team either, England have played excellent cricket for the vast majority of this tour.  They have badly let themselves down with the bat in this match. 

 


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