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Online dave.woodhall

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Re: Bottler to manage grief merchants?
« Reply #120 on: September 21, 2010, 11:39:11 AM »
However, what I wanted to see was them sit doen and decide who they wanted, not who applied, and then aggressively pursue that man and pay whatever compensation was necessary to get him.  OK, it may not have made us popular, but we're here to win football matches and trophies, not friends!

And what if he said no?

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Re: Bottler to manage grief merchants?
« Reply #121 on: September 21, 2010, 11:45:59 AM »
However, what I wanted to see was them sit doen and decide who they wanted, not who applied, and then aggressively pursue that man and pay whatever compensation was necessary to get him.  OK, it may not have made us popular, but we're here to win football matches and trophies, not friends!

But using your previous argument you don't know that they didn't do just that and said first choice said no eventually. Randy we know doesn't do things in the public eye, and when you think back to the speculation in rags like the Mirror and NOW, good luck to him.

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Re: Bottler to manage grief merchants?
« Reply #122 on: September 21, 2010, 11:53:02 AM »
However, what I wanted to see was them sit doen and decide who they wanted, not who applied, and then aggressively pursue that man and pay whatever compensation was necessary to get him.  OK, it may not have made us popular, but we're here to win football matches and trophies, not friends!


And what if he said no?

I'm actually more inclined to believe that that's actually what did happen.

I don't think that GH was the first choice or the only person to have the job offered to them.

Look at the press speculation (never a mention of GH), look at the timing.  To have waited so long and then offered it to Houllier doesn't sound right to me.  Other avenues must have been explored and then blocked.

I have no evidence to back this up mind, just a feeling I've got.

As for MON going to the Dippers, well what do they say about never knowing what you've got till it's gone. They'll be losing a far more astute and respected Manager in Hodgeson
« Last Edit: September 21, 2010, 11:56:07 AM by OzVilla »

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Re: Bottler to manage grief merchants?
« Reply #123 on: September 21, 2010, 11:55:08 AM »
If that man says 'no', then you move on to 2nd choice.  I just don't like the idea of only looking at managers that apply, if that's what happened, as it precludes those already in jobs, such as Moyes or Jol, and the very top managers do not send in CVs - they wait to be approached.

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Re: Bottler to manage grief merchants?
« Reply #124 on: September 21, 2010, 11:56:48 AM »
Daily Star..

Offline Villa'Zawg

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Re: Bottler to manage grief merchants?
« Reply #125 on: September 21, 2010, 12:10:15 PM »
 sfx412: ...It wasn't nice and I admire him for looking after her, no question, our own assistant manager faced similar problems, it can be a disastrous time. He, mind stepped down on a temporary basis, then resigned to look after his family. It was still a convenient excuse as at the time the Celtic Board were making similar noises to those the Villa board were just before he quit.Sad times indeed. Having suffered similar with my baby son its not something you get over in 5 minutes in fact you never really get over such trauma. 



"How convenient that you have a traumatic experience with a baby son to draw on for reference."

No!. Of course it isn't a convenient excuse when a wife or child has a life-threatening illness.
I can't even begin to fathom such an offensive lack of perspective.
« Last Edit: September 21, 2010, 12:12:37 PM by Villadawg »

Offline barrysleftfoot

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Re: Bottler to manage grief merchants?
« Reply #126 on: September 21, 2010, 03:08:17 PM »



   Just wonder how long it will take all the experts on here to suggest the Hou is tactically naive, like apparently MON was.

  MON will get a good job, because he is a good manager.I think a lot of the criticisms thrown at him about being set in his ways, and having favourites, and making some bad buys, are valid complaints, and now hes gone its time to hope that the new manager makes the necessary decisions.

  The fact is, regardless of all the criticisms, MON got us to be a respected top 6 team, able to beat anybody on their day, and you could argue , with the players he wanted to bring in, would have made us a top 4 team.Not every manager can build a team like MON, not every manager is good enough to get a team into the top 4, we will never know if MON was at VP.

  If MON went to Lplop , and i hope he does'nt, they will be a better team under MON, than under Hodgson.Take out the petty jealousies/bickerings etc, MON is a good manager.He's gone, get over it, and move on.

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Re: Bottler to manage grief merchants?
« Reply #127 on: September 21, 2010, 03:14:13 PM »
He's gone, get over it, and move on.

What's your username again? ;)

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Re: Bottler to manage grief merchants?
« Reply #128 on: September 21, 2010, 03:21:01 PM »



   Barry Bannan ,Monty......Barry Bannan :)

Offline Rip Van We Go Again

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Re: Bottler to manage grief merchants?
« Reply #129 on: September 21, 2010, 03:22:24 PM »


 not every manager is good enough to get a team into the top 4, we will never know if MON was at VP.

 
We already know, he failed to do it and had 4 seasons to try. 'Arry did it in two.

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Re: Bottler to manage grief merchants?
« Reply #130 on: September 21, 2010, 03:30:04 PM »



    I believe if MON had the starting squad that HR inherited, and the money to spend that HR had, then he could have got that team into the top 4.

  If MON had been able to buy Keane, Onohua, McGeady + 1 other, like he apparently wanted to do with the Milner money, then i don't think we would have been far off the top 4 this season.

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Re: Bottler to manage grief merchants?
« Reply #131 on: September 21, 2010, 03:31:30 PM »
We might have done if we had spent twice as much (gross and net) on our squad in the last four years, which is what Spurs did.

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Re: Bottler to manage grief merchants?
« Reply #132 on: September 21, 2010, 03:44:19 PM »
MON will not be next liverpool manager. I reckon he will be managing Milner and Barry in the not too distant future

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Re: Bottler to manage grief merchants?
« Reply #133 on: September 21, 2010, 03:46:35 PM »



  If MON had been able to buy Keane, Onohua, McGeady + 1 other, like he apparently wanted to do with the Milner money, then i don't think we would have been far off the top 4 this season.
Do you honestly think those 3 players you mentioned would get us into the top 4?
I don't.

We faded too many times, I saw nothing from MON or his team selections that would have changed that.

McGeady??? Another Winger ???
The 3 we've got are better than him.
« Last Edit: September 21, 2010, 03:52:33 PM by Mark Fletcher »

Offline Rip Van We Go Again

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Re: Bottler to manage grief merchants?
« Reply #134 on: September 21, 2010, 03:48:20 PM »
We might have done if we had spent twice as much (gross and net) on our squad in the last four years, which is what Spurs did.
'Might's' and 'what if's' don't cut it.
He failed to do it and there was no compelling evidence that he ever would.

 


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