Bottler to manage grief merchants?

[Villa'Zawg]

As we've already shown its Villa figures are plucked out of thin air, you'll excuse me for treating anything else it says with a great deal of suspicion.

There are no recognised official sources for club finances and player transfer data, so I think you are right to treat the figures on those stats websites with caution. I've made that point myself each time I've referred to that transfer website. That doesn't mean that we can't try and understand club finances.

The figures I've put up there from the official Spurs accounts show that they have spent £280m+ on players since summer 2006. Using whichever figures you choose, we've spent approx. half of that gross amount and from a much lower starting position in terms of squad strength in summer 2006. That has to be a hugely significant factor when measuring the clubs progress.

Ultimately this isn’t about finances, Lerner, Faulkner, Krulak, O’Neill or Houllier, it is about what level of expectation we as supporters should heap on our club.

It's all well and good for the board to declare that their ambitions for the club to compete for silverware and play in the CL remains unchanged. What I don’t understand is how that ambition is reconciled with our recently announced focus on reducing costs? Are we really expecting to compete with that level of investment relative to our competitors? And if so, how is that supposed work?

[sfx412]

It will work on the decisions the manager and his staff make. Many myself included rate Moyes and Grant as decent blokes, their present position would suggest how wrong I am so far.
Long term I feel I will be justified as I hope to be in thinking Houllier is not the best choice but still a good one for us at this moment in time.

[dave.woodhall]

Will we be getting any more figures from our competitors, or would they not help your case?

[Ads]

I'm not going to slag him off but I'd like to know the full story. Because it just looks to me like he had a lot of resources behind him, was asked to help clear some of the decks before anybody else came in (which is fair enough, they were his crew that were not scrubbing up after all) and he'd decided he'd had enough and left us at the worst possible time, he also took most of the first team coaching staff with him. I can't forgive him for that.

We had a really encouraging few years and then cracks were starting to appear and the football was becoming turgid. In pre season he just looked depressed and vacant. He should have decided to leave there and then but he didn't. So I dont blame people for thinking the timing of his departure was vindictive. It was at least disrespectful, unprofessional and arrogant.

He's a good if limited manager and I don't hate him but I've lost most of the respect I ever had for him and think Randy at least deserved better than this. We deserved better than this.
I just hope Houllier does well and we can draw a line under this sorry episode as soon as possible.

What I don't agree with here Maz is the 'He took most of the coaching staff him' bit. I think they followed out of a sense of loyalty to O'Neill. The board knew they came as a package when employing them so must have known that they would eventually leave as a package.

The board didn't didn't recruit them. HDE did.

[Villa'Zawg]

Will we be getting any more figures from our competitors, or would they not help your case?

Yesterday you thought the opinion that Spurs have spent double was only worthy of a nice big "WELCOME TO LA-LA-LAND" response. Having now found it was you on the wrong side of the border, aren't you even a teeny bit inclined to reassess your own opinion?

[dave.woodhall]

Will we be getting any more figures from our competitors, or would they not help your case?

Yesterday you thought the opinion that Spurs have spent double was only worthy of a nice big "WELCOME TO LA-LA-LAND" response. Having now found it was you on the wrong side of the border, aren't you even a teeny bit inclined to reassess your own opinion?

That's amusing, coming from someone who said Spurs' wage bill was wrong because it just was.

[Villa'Zawg]

Will we be getting any more figures from our competitors, or would they not help your case?

Yesterday you thought the opinion that Spurs have spent double was only worthy of a nice big "WELCOME TO LA-LA-LAND" response. Having now found it was you on the wrong side of the border, aren't you even a teeny bit inclined to reassess your own opinion?

That's amusing, coming from someone who said Spurs' wage bill was wrong because it just was.

So no then? You've nothing more to add on this particular subject? I can now talk freely about Spurs spending double the money Villa have without fear of you stifling the debate with one of your snide comments?

[Ads]

Yes, you're free to bore the life out of everybody on your one man crusade to prove... erm, oh who the fuck cares, I can't even be arsed to finish off my sarcasm.

[Risso]

According to their annual accounts reports, Spurs spent £262.4m on player transfers between summer 2006/2007 and the start of last season.

Is that OK?

Either my calculator is faulty or that's not what the figures in the accounts actually add up to.

[Bad English]

It's like watching "Clarey Blue Villa" teach English as David Lodge looks on.

[Ads]

According to their annual accounts reports, Spurs spent £262.4m on player transfers between summer 2006/2007 and the start of last season.

Is that OK?

Either my calculator is faulty or that's not what the figures in the accounts actually add up to.

Stop encouraging him!!!!

[Villa'Zawg]

According to their annual accounts reports, Spurs spent £262.4m on player transfers between summer 2006/2007 and the start of last season.

Is that OK?

Either my calculator is faulty or that's not what the figures in the accounts actually add up to.

Damn! Go on then, explain it to me.

[dave.woodhall]

Will we be getting any more figures from our competitors, or would they not help your case?

Yesterday you thought the opinion that Spurs have spent double was only worthy of a nice big "WELCOME TO LA-LA-LAND" response. Having now found it was you on the wrong side of the border, aren't you even a teeny bit inclined to reassess your own opinion?

That's amusing, coming from someone who said Spurs' wage bill was wrong because it just was.

So no then? You've nothing more to add on this particular subject? I can now talk freely about Spurs spending double the money Villa have without fear of you stifling the debate with one of your snide comments?

And again, the irony-o-meter goes through the roof.

[peter w]

I've nothing to add to this. Nothing. But didn't think that would stop adding to this insightful thread. It is [probably one of the best posts over the past few pages in fact. Can this have its own forum? On an accountants site maybe?

[Lambert and Payne]

Lol the daily star, its gotta be true!