Quote from: pauliewalnuts on September 03, 2010, 08:31:33 PMSee also the way "sell to buy" became an accepted truth in the transfers thread.And an accepted truth by Kmac?
See also the way "sell to buy" became an accepted truth in the transfers thread.
Quote from: Somniloquism on September 03, 2010, 08:36:45 PMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on September 03, 2010, 08:31:33 PMSee also the way "sell to buy" became an accepted truth in the transfers thread.And an accepted truth by Kmac?But denied by the chairman and Gen Krulak.I think they've got enough credit in the bank to be believed, to be honest.
Quote from: pauliewalnuts on September 03, 2010, 08:39:27 PMQuote from: Somniloquism on September 03, 2010, 08:36:45 PMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on September 03, 2010, 08:31:33 PMSee also the way "sell to buy" became an accepted truth in the transfers thread.And an accepted truth by Kmac?But denied by the chairman and Gen Krulak.I think they've got enough credit in the bank to be believed, to be honest.I thought the General also talked about reducing the wage bill before getting others in. Isn't that a sell to buy policy by any other name. ( I doubt blame them for going that way with the stupid wages for once in a bluemoon players.)
I am amazed that nobody has commented on the hilarious irony of Mrs Overall starting a topic on vipers in the nest.
Quote from: adrenachrome on September 03, 2010, 07:59:37 PMI am amazed that nobody has commented on the hilarious irony of Mrs Overall starting a topic on vipers in the nest.why thank you for again attacking the poster and not commenting on the thread, much appreciated.
Quote from: Quiet Lion on September 03, 2010, 07:11:26 PMQuote from: rogfromb6 on September 03, 2010, 06:49:09 PMI suspect that most of us don't know more than the General about running a football club or what actually goes on when it comes to the mechanics of appointing a manager. You have an opinion as to who the next manager should be, that's all. Well saidI find the stupidity / arrogance and naivete or some people stunning. People just think it is as easy as rocking up to Everton or Ajax and simply 'take' their manager....why we are aston villa after all and our owner is a billionaire.It's too easy to assume that's what people are saying though. It isn't. There's a lot of intermediate space between suggesting we go and poach Martin Jol, and us appointing Curbishley, who - let's face it - would have been an uninspiring appointment four years ago, and in the time since then, has flopped at West Ham, then wound up on the dole. I'm aware we're not going to get Moyes - why would he make a sideways move like this, at this point in the season (crucially). I also don't blame Jol for not wanting to leave Ajax with that tasty CL group they're involved in.I do, however, think that some of the names mentioned in relation to us are not good enough for Aston Villa , not by a country mile. The non-availability of messrs Jol and Moyes doesn't change that.
Quote from: rogfromb6 on September 03, 2010, 06:49:09 PMI suspect that most of us don't know more than the General about running a football club or what actually goes on when it comes to the mechanics of appointing a manager. You have an opinion as to who the next manager should be, that's all. Well saidI find the stupidity / arrogance and naivete or some people stunning. People just think it is as easy as rocking up to Everton or Ajax and simply 'take' their manager....why we are aston villa after all and our owner is a billionaire.
I suspect that most of us don't know more than the General about running a football club or what actually goes on when it comes to the mechanics of appointing a manager. You have an opinion as to who the next manager should be, that's all.
Do some of you not see that you are driving the best owners we could ever wish for out of the door?
Quote from: ckrulak from another siteSimply put, there are some Fans who have just turned on Randy like pit vipers...turned on the man who has done more for your Club in 4 years than most have done in 40.
Simply put, there are some Fans who have just turned on Randy like pit vipers...turned on the man who has done more for your Club in 4 years than most have done in 40.
Quote from: MadJohnnyC on September 03, 2010, 06:46:35 PMDo some of you not see that you are driving the best owners we could ever wish for out of the door? No amount of "rolling eyes" emoticons could do justice to just how silly this sentence is!
Quote from: sfx412 on September 03, 2010, 05:41:23 PMQuote from: ckrulak from another siteSimply put, there are some Fans who have just turned on Randy like pit vipers...turned on the man who has done more for your Club in 4 years than most have done in 40. I have always been generally pro-Randy, and I don't doubt his good intent: however I am beginning to ask myself if his efforts are always well directed. It's all very well rebuilding a pub, installing a mosaic and paying for free scarves and coach rides - but none of these things improve our performance on the pitch or make the club more financially viable. (Yes he did finish "state of the art" Bodymoor Heath, which I give him credit for because it's more than Doug did, although to be brutally honest it's arguable whether that's improved our performances or our injury rateFrom what the buyer in the club shop was telling us the other day, Randy seems to spend an awful lot of time personally designing the checks on the side of the home shirt, patterns on various other bits of merchandise, and other strange things. I would MUCH rather he spent time working on how he manages his manager - something he doesn't seem hugely good at, if his record with the Cleveland Browns and with MON is anything to go by.
Quote from: VillaVA on September 03, 2010, 10:58:47 PMQuote from: sfx412 on September 03, 2010, 05:41:23 PMQuote from: ckrulak from another siteSimply put, there are some Fans who have just turned on Randy like pit vipers...turned on the man who has done more for your Club in 4 years than most have done in 40. I have always been generally pro-Randy, and I don't doubt his good intent: however I am beginning to ask myself if his efforts are always well directed. It's all very well rebuilding a pub, installing a mosaic and paying for free scarves and coach rides - but none of these things improve our performance on the pitch or make the club more financially viable. (Yes he did finish "state of the art" Bodymoor Heath, which I give him credit for because it's more than Doug did, although to be brutally honest it's arguable whether that's improved our performances or our injury rateFrom what the buyer in the club shop was telling us the other day, Randy seems to spend an awful lot of time personally designing the checks on the side of the home shirt, patterns on various other bits of merchandise, and other strange things. I would MUCH rather he spent time working on how he manages his manager - something he doesn't seem hugely good at, if his record with the Cleveland Browns and with MON is anything to go by.Posts like this annoy me as well. Randy tries to get the details right so of course he's open to the accusation that all he cares about is the trivialities. How about you wait and see who the new manager is before you criticize him on such a petty level?
Randy has been great for the club, and it is true that MON left us in the shit by leaving us when he did, and that the board (probably) cannot be blamed for this. However1. It should be understandable that fans are worried by the time it has taken to find a replacement.2. When you switch from being one of the biggest spenders in Premier League to adopt a "sell to buy"-policy, it should be obvious that we need time to adjust our expectations. (Adding to this our relative inactivity in this transfer window.)
Quote from: Somniloquism on September 03, 2010, 09:23:17 PMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on September 03, 2010, 08:39:27 PMQuote from: Somniloquism on September 03, 2010, 08:36:45 PMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on September 03, 2010, 08:31:33 PMSee also the way "sell to buy" became an accepted truth in the transfers thread.And an accepted truth by Kmac?But denied by the chairman and Gen Krulak.I think they've got enough credit in the bank to be believed, to be honest.I thought the General also talked about reducing the wage bill before getting others in. Isn't that a sell to buy policy by any other name. ( I doubt blame them for going that way with the stupid wages for once in a bluemoon players.)I think he talked about the need to do something about the wage bill, and - if i recall correctly - "making sure the right players get the right money"It's pretty clear that there are a host of players who don't get used much, but who get paid a lot of money. i don't see why wanting to do something about those players should exclude buying other players.