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Offline supertom

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #1155 on: October 11, 2013, 01:52:32 PM »
Once Benteke is back though, how best would you accommodate Wiemann?

I would either play him off CB, or rest him. I think Wiemann could have a field day playing just off Benteke, at times last season they read each other very well. I don't mind Wiemann filling in on the right every now and again, but it shouldn't become his primary position. If it does I don't see him having much of a career at this level. In the long run he's got to be more central. I also think he'd be better playing on the left than the right if he has to play one of the wide positions. That way he's cutting in, onto his favoured foot. The trouble is, Gabby is playing fairly well and plays better left side than right.

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #1156 on: October 11, 2013, 01:55:30 PM »
Once Benteke is back though, how best would you accommodate Wiemann?

I would either play him off CB, or rest him. I think Wiemann could have a field day playing just off Benteke, at times last season they read each other very well. I don't mind Wiemann filling in on the right every now and again, but it shouldn't become his primary position. If it does I don't see him having much of a career at this level. In the long run he's got to be more central. I also think he'd be better playing on the left than the right if he has to play one of the wide positions. That way he's cutting in, onto his favoured foot. The trouble is, Gabby is playing fairly well and plays better left side than right.

Weimann

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #1157 on: October 11, 2013, 01:55:43 PM »
The thing is with Weimann is his work-rate. The guy never stops. Whilst this season he hasn't been as good in an attacking sense as he was towards the end of last season, I don't think we have another player in his position (other than Gabby, who'd be playing anyway) to do as much graft and chasing.

I'd perservere with him until Xmas at least to get back up to how he was in an attacking sense.

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #1158 on: October 11, 2013, 02:07:53 PM »
Once Benteke is back though, how best would you accommodate Wiemann?

I would either play him off CB, or rest him. I think Wiemann could have a field day playing just off Benteke, at times last season they read each other very well. I don't mind Wiemann filling in on the right every now and again, but it shouldn't become his primary position. If it does I don't see him having much of a career at this level. In the long run he's got to be more central. I also think he'd be better playing on the left than the right if he has to play one of the wide positions. That way he's cutting in, onto his favoured foot. The trouble is, Gabby is playing fairly well and plays better left side than right.

Weimann

 :)
Next you'll be telling me it's Clark instead of Clarke.
;)

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #1159 on: October 11, 2013, 02:13:04 PM »
I think Weimann could do with losing a few pounds too, or building some muscle. I think his stamina and speed might improve if he loses weight, or if he wants some increased upper body strength then a bit more gym work might be in order.

I do think he gets overworked though. There were times last season he was in major need of a rest. Or games where he'd died a death after 70 minutes but stayed on. This season has been similar. A spell out might not be the worst thing for him either, just to give him extra incentive to improve.

He does run himself into the ground though as CBBB says and that's difficult to replace. Either we play Bacuna or Albrighton on the right flank to match that work rate.

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #1160 on: October 11, 2013, 02:34:57 PM »
What Weimann needs to learn is when to come inside and when to stay wide.  The position as an 'inside right' is very well suited for his style, but he needs to get his decisions right.

Aside from that where he's struggled a little this season has been his finishing, oddly he's been snatching at things rather than trusting his technique.  Once he gets his confidence back in front of goal he'll start looking back to his best, it's worth pointing out that just on the chances he's had he could easily be 203 goals better off this year, if he was on 5 from 8-9 appearances would anyone be questioning his performances?

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #1161 on: October 11, 2013, 02:47:30 PM »
What Weimann needs to learn is when to come inside and when to stay wide.  The position as an 'inside right' is very well suited for his style, but he needs to get his decisions right.

Aside from that where he's struggled a little this season has been his finishing, oddly he's been snatching at things rather than trusting his technique.  Once he gets his confidence back in front of goal he'll start looking back to his best, it's worth pointing out that just on the chances he's had he could easily be 203 goals better off this year, if he was on 5 from 8-9 appearances would anyone be questioning his performances?
I also think that this is why if he's going to play on one side, he'd be better on the left, rather than the right. His left foot isn't great and he's found himself in a few situation where he's not been able to get a clean contact, or he's had to try and check back onto his right. I think he'd have more joy playing inside left, if he's not going to be playing centrally.

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #1162 on: October 11, 2013, 02:48:16 PM »
203 goals better...blimey, is Weimann a Ronaldo in-waiting to happen?

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #1163 on: October 11, 2013, 03:07:29 PM »
ronaldo won't be fit to wipe his boots.

Either that or i have fat fingers and don't copy read very well and intended to type 2-3

I think I'd prefer the former.

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #1164 on: October 11, 2013, 03:41:20 PM »
Once Benteke is back though, how best would you accommodate Wiemann?

I would either play him off CB, or rest him. I think Wiemann could have a field day playing just off Benteke, at times last season they read each other very well. I don't mind Wiemann filling in on the right every now and again, but it shouldn't become his primary position. If it does I don't see him having much of a career at this level. In the long run he's got to be more central. I also think he'd be better playing on the left than the right if he has to play one of the wide positions. That way he's cutting in, onto his favoured foot. The trouble is, Gabby is playing fairly well and plays better left side than right.

Weimann

 :)
Next you'll be telling me it's Clark instead of Clarke.
;)

yes, thank goodness you didn't do that. You might have gotten blasted by a few people!!

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #1165 on: October 11, 2013, 04:10:01 PM »
What Weimann needs to learn is when to come inside and when to stay wide.  The position as an 'inside right' is very well suited for his style, but he needs to get his decisions right.

Aside from that where he's struggled a little this season has been his finishing, oddly he's been snatching at things rather than trusting his technique.  Once he gets his confidence back in front of goal he'll start looking back to his best, it's worth pointing out that just on the chances he's had he could easily be 203 goals better off this year, if he was on 5 from 8-9 appearances would anyone be questioning his performances?

A somewhat ridiculous question.  If he had 5 goals this year this thread wouldn't have been on page 5 of the forum (in my format at least), the fact that nobody had posted since July 22nd tells you he's not been ripping up the carpet.  He hasn't looked like scoring one, the one he got was a toe end flick that bobbled over the line.  (edit) That said I really couldn't give less of a defecation how that goal went in, for me it was perfect =D.
« Last Edit: October 11, 2013, 04:11:40 PM by DrGonzo »

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #1166 on: October 11, 2013, 04:37:19 PM »
The thing is with Weimann is his work-rate. The guy never stops. Whilst this season he hasn't been as good in an attacking sense as he was towards the end of last season, I don't think we have another player in his position (other than Gabby, who'd be playing anyway) to do as much graft and chasing.

I'd perservere with him until Xmas at least to get back up to how he was in an attacking sense.
Weimann has great finishing - okay, we've not seen it that much so far this season; but he's a finisher and he'll come good again as long as he gets into the right places on the pitch.
He undoubtedly works well with Benteke but I think that teams are now much more aware of what he can do and so it is bound to be tougher for him this season.

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #1167 on: October 11, 2013, 04:37:43 PM »
What Weimann needs to learn is when to come inside and when to stay wide.  The position as an 'inside right' is very well suited for his style, but he needs to get his decisions right.

Aside from that where he's struggled a little this season has been his finishing, oddly he's been snatching at things rather than trusting his technique.  Once he gets his confidence back in front of goal he'll start looking back to his best, it's worth pointing out that just on the chances he's had he could easily be 203 goals better off this year, if he was on 5 from 8-9 appearances would anyone be questioning his performances?

A somewhat ridiculous question.  If he had 5 goals this year this thread wouldn't have been on page 5 of the forum (in my format at least), the fact that nobody had posted since July 22nd tells you he's not been ripping up the carpet.  He hasn't looked like scoring one, the one he got was a toe end flick that bobbled over the line.  (edit) That said I really couldn't give less of a defecation how that goal went in, for me it was perfect =D.

He's been in position for several chances that with a bit more luck might have gone in. Think of the opportunities at Chelsea for example. He scored an absolute screamer against Rotherham too. It's only about the goals he has scored but about his application. He's going through a lean patch right now and his task is to work his way through it. All strikers go through and the good ones come out the other side better players. We need to be patient.

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #1168 on: October 11, 2013, 04:55:01 PM »
What Weimann needs to learn is when to come inside and when to stay wide.  The position as an 'inside right' is very well suited for his style, but he needs to get his decisions right.

Aside from that where he's struggled a little this season has been his finishing, oddly he's been snatching at things rather than trusting his technique.  Once he gets his confidence back in front of goal he'll start looking back to his best, it's worth pointing out that just on the chances he's had he could easily be 203 goals better off this year, if he was on 5 from 8-9 appearances would anyone be questioning his performances?

A somewhat ridiculous question.  If he had 5 goals this year this thread wouldn't have been on page 5 of the forum (in my format at least), the fact that nobody had posted since July 22nd tells you he's not been ripping up the carpet.  He hasn't looked like scoring one, the one he got was a toe end flick that bobbled over the line.  (edit) That said I really couldn't give less of a defecation how that goal went in, for me it was perfect =D.

He's been in position for several chances that with a bit more luck might have gone in. Think of the opportunities at Chelsea for example. He scored an absolute screamer against Rotherham too. It's only about the goals he has scored but about his application. He's going through a lean patch right now and his task is to work his way through it. All strikers go through and the good ones come out the other side better players. We need to be patient.

Which is exactly the point I was making, if he takes a chance vs Chelsea and the one that bobbled to him against Hull and there wouldn't be comments about his form, it's very much based on fine margins and I think some of the comments about his poor start to the season I've seen are well wide of the mark.

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #1169 on: October 11, 2013, 05:08:21 PM »
where he's struggled a little this season has been his finishing, oddly he's been snatching at things rather than trusting his technique. 

I said elsewhere that Weimann's problem at the moment is lack of composure at times - hence snatching at shots, mis-controlling, and looking as if he's trying too hard.  Last season he had some great instinctive finishes (the first against Man Yoo, Norwich in the League Cup) where he just looked relaxed and stroked it in.  It's maybe a confidence thing, but maybe the hard graft is taking away from his finishing composure too much.  Many a manager used to say they didn't want their goalscorers chasing around the pitch too much as they wanted them sharp and focussed for when they get on the the end of chances.   Which is how strikers like Lineker thrived (and Bent I suppose).  His movement off the ball is still good, and much better than most of our team, and i think he'll come through his rough patch and be a big asset for us.

 


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