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Offline JJ-AV

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Re: Kevin MacDonald the next Manager???
« Reply #150 on: August 19, 2010, 02:30:46 PM »
positive result tonight and a win against Newcastle and he'll get the job, I reckon.

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Re: Kevin MacDonald the next Manager???
« Reply #151 on: August 19, 2010, 02:43:34 PM »
Does he have the neccessary UEFA licences and badges to manage ?

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Re: Kevin MacDonald the next Manager???
« Reply #152 on: August 19, 2010, 02:47:31 PM »
Does he have the neccessary UEFA licences and badges to manage ?

I can't believe for a second that somebody who has coached as long as he has doesn't have all his badges.  Not being qualified only seems to be a problem when teams appoint an ex-player who has never coached before.

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Re: Kevin MacDonald the next Manager???
« Reply #153 on: August 19, 2010, 03:04:50 PM »
I keep hearing things like "how would he respond to a string of bad results" and "how would he deal with the media".

I would expect him to react through tactics and motivation which are two traits he has in abundance.
And as for the media, I couldn't care less. As long as he's doing his job, which is winning as many matches as possible, does it matter? He's already shown a calm presence in front of the cameras in any case.

Also, the fact he is considering his family first reinforces to me he is exactly the sort of person we need right now.
I dont want somebody insane, thanks. I want somebody to settle us down, get the players together and play some good stuff. I've always been a fan of how his teams play too although this is a bigger ask.

I'm not saying I'm certain he'll do well but I'd like him to have a shot at it. If he fails or doesnt want it enough, there will be loads of nutters waiting in the wings. Right now, the team, the club, needs continuity and stability and to me K mac represents that.

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Re: Kevin MacDonald the next Manager???
« Reply #154 on: August 19, 2010, 03:12:42 PM »
If Jol has ruled himself out (I haven't seen it myself) then I think it's going to be MacDonald almost by default because there don't seem to be any credible alternatives at the moment. I'm discounting some of the more fanciful names because they are not going to come here to help us reduce spending.
I must be reading different posts from the General to you, Chris.
My understanding is we want to remove off the wage list those players that never or rarely get selected and are paid high wages.
In return that money is to be given to those players "that deserve it". Included in this catagory are I suspect existing and new players.

I don't think it's not so much to reduce spending, rather to reduce waste. Too completely different things.

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Re: Kevin MacDonald the next Manager???
« Reply #155 on: August 19, 2010, 03:18:46 PM »
Maz, you need to be mad to be a manager. Maybe you couldn't care less about the media, but he certainly would if they start slating him, making him into some sort of joke on TV and in the papers while his kids watch on. They're honestly like jackals, as you know, and they'll turn in a heartbeat, and he'll get under stress and his ability and desire to perform may suffer. That's the kind of thing you have to be a little bit mad to not care about going through, and if you don't have the madness you might not be cut out for it.

As for stabilising the club, I really want to know what that means. Does it mean pushing on, going forward? Does it mean a season of transition? Honestly, I don't know what it means. What looks like continuity and stability one minute looks like stagnation and a loss of momentum the next.

His tactics, motivation and above all coaching skills are second to none, so he must be an important member of the set up, possibly the most important after the manager. But being the manager is very different to being the coach, however senior, and I don't think he's quite cut out for that sort of slog.

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Re: Kevin MacDonald the next Manager???
« Reply #156 on: August 19, 2010, 03:30:18 PM »
Good post, Monty.

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Re: Kevin MacDonald the next Manager???
« Reply #157 on: August 19, 2010, 03:31:20 PM »
You dont have to be mad to be a manager and I'd sooner the next one wasn't.
MON was eccentric enough and the squad were fractious and demotivated. What they need right now is a calm head in control. One they trust. Thats what I mean by stability. And continuity because they have been working with him for some time already.

You can always ignore the media you know. I think he's plenty wily enough to do just that too.
They're always talking bollocks so why let it affect you?

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Re: Kevin MacDonald the next Manager???
« Reply #158 on: August 19, 2010, 03:31:43 PM »
I must admit that I have said all along that I would like to see an experienced man take the job.
But, after seeing the way KM has conducted himself this week, and the interviews he has given, he has really impressed and I think that just maybe here is a bloke that could grow into the job.
Whatever happens, I think we are in good hands until a final decision is made, one way or the other.   

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Re: Kevin MacDonald the next Manager???
« Reply #159 on: August 19, 2010, 03:36:49 PM »
If Jol has ruled himself out (I haven't seen it myself) then I think it's going to be MacDonald almost by default because there don't seem to be any credible alternatives at the moment. I'm discounting some of the more fanciful names because they are not going to come here to help us reduce spending.
I must be reading different posts from the General to you, Chris.
My understanding is we want to remove off the wage list those players that never or rarely get selected and are paid high wages.
In return that money is to be given to those players "that deserve it". Included in this catagory are I suspect existing and new players.

I don't think it's not so much to reduce spending, rather to reduce waste. Too completely different things.

Yes, I agree with this.

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Re: Kevin MacDonald the next Manager???
« Reply #160 on: August 19, 2010, 03:37:43 PM »
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MON was eccentric enough and the squad were fractious and demotivated.

Whilst not a fan of his football, I've never seen his team give less than 100%. We must be the most hard working team in the league. MON deserves credit for that.

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Re: Kevin MacDonald the next Manager???
« Reply #161 on: August 19, 2010, 03:38:07 PM »
He doesn't actually strike me as that wily, that's the problem. He strikes me as incredibly good-natured, possibly a little shy and rather private and guarded. As Paulie said a while back, maybe too nice. That just doesn't strike me as an ideal recipe for being a top-flight manager.

You've clarified what you mean by stability, so I'll clarify what I mean by mad. I don't mean eccentric, like MON, because he was sometimes borderline certifiable. I mean this type of insane drive that means you just have to keep going, a need to succeed to coin a horrible jargon-like phrase. Ferguson is the epitome of this; when he was asked what he'd do if he won a 19th title to overtake Liverpool, he replied "try and win a 20th". I just don't see enough of that kind of character in K Mac, which probably makes him a much nicer man than Ferguson, but not a manager.

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Re: Kevin MacDonald the next Manager???
« Reply #162 on: August 19, 2010, 03:40:59 PM »
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MON was eccentric enough and the squad were fractious and demotivated.

Whilst not a fan of his football, I've never seen his team give less than 100%. We must be the most hard working team in the league. MON deserves credit for that.

I didn't say lazy, I said demotivated.

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Re: Kevin MacDonald the next Manager???
« Reply #163 on: August 19, 2010, 03:41:58 PM »
If Jol has ruled himself out (I haven't seen it myself) then I think it's going to be MacDonald almost by default because there don't seem to be any credible alternatives at the moment. I'm discounting some of the more fanciful names because they are not going to come here to help us reduce spending.
I must be reading different posts from the General to you, Chris.
My understanding is we want to remove off the wage list those players that never or rarely get selected and are paid high wages.
In return that money is to be given to those players "that deserve it". Included in this catagory are I suspect existing and new players.

I don't think it's not so much to reduce spending, rather to reduce waste. Too completely different things.

No, not completely different but two interdependent things. In order to pay the wages of new players we need to get others off the wage bill first. In addition the wages to turnover ratio has to be realigned.

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Re: Kevin MacDonald the next Manager???
« Reply #164 on: August 19, 2010, 03:42:44 PM »
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MON was eccentric enough and the squad were fractious and demotivated.

Whilst not a fan of his football, I've never seen his team give less than 100%. We must be the most hard working team in the league. MON deserves credit for that.

I didn't say lazy, I said demotivated.

Agreed, that's an important difference. It's quite possible to give everything as much out of fear as out of desire, but you'll always end up less inspired and imaginative that way.

 


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