The Martin O'Neill thread (with added sacking #2188)

[Steve R]

I have been trying to think who Villadroid reminds me of. It has just occurred to me - the character played by Bernard Cribbins in the Hotel Inspectors episode of Fawlty Towers.

[Villadroid]

So you're playing Devil's advocate as some sort of social experiment. How pompous of you.

I think the wheels of the MON bandwagon came off when he spent all our money, petulantly left on the eve of battle taking all his staff and took us to court. That normally does it. Have you been deactivated in the last few years?

He spent the money he was allowed to by the board, like every other manager.

Petulantly left, yes, and that's his legacy but his staff were his mates and walked out with him. It's not as though they were going to be wanted without him.

He didn't take us to court, but a PL tribunal did find in his favour so presumably he was within his rights.

I think a few of you need to move on, at the moment it seems like hell hath no fury like a Villa fan scorned. It's a pity we made a mess of some subsequent appointments but I'd sooner have Lambert as manager than O'Neill, so we got there eventually, and it's perhaps time we started looking forward.

A well reasoned argument at last.

I thank you sir!

A well reasoned argument = an opinion that agrees with yours.

I see, so none of the other arguments, no matter how well written, researched and articulated are well reasoned?

At least we know what we're dealing with.

The use of the "we" is very revealing.

[Villadroid]

I have been trying to think who Villadroid reminds me of. It has just occurred to me - the character played by Bernard Cribbins in the Hotel Inspectors episode of Fawlty Towers.

I think I might have that somewhere. I will try and find it out and see how true it might be.

Yep, I found it. A pedant with Northern accent. I think I quite like that.

[Dave Cooper please]

The use of the "we" is very revealing.

What exactly are you trying to imply here?
Don't bother to answer, it was rhetorical, I wondered when the 'H&V clique' bollocks would surface!

By 'we' I mean the people on this thread arguing roughly along the same viewpoint as my own, nothing more, nothing less.

[peter w]

Before the end of his final season I was calling for O'Neill's head. Put to one side the money side of the story for one second, the issue was his managerial ability. The players that he had at his disposal warranted better than another tired limping home in 6th place. For 3 seasons running were collapsed around March onwards. That suggests something was wrong either coaching wise or concerning hisownmanagerial ability.

Anyway,the way he left loses any credits that he had.

Do you think his squad was too big?

No. O'Neill had a very good pool of players at his disposal. The fact that they tired for the last 2-3 months of a season and limped home into 6th shows that something was not right off the pitch.

[Villadroid]

The use of the "we" is very revealing.

What exactly are you trying to imply here?
Don't bother to answer, it was rhetorical, I wondered when the 'H&V clique' bollocks would surface!

By 'we' I mean the people on this thread arguing roughly along the same viewpoint as my own, nothing more, nothing less.

Sorry old chap.

I'm just learning the ropes and the one-line put-down seems to be the vogue around here.

So just joining in and all that, don't you know.

[Chris Smith]

We have every right to discuss what has fucked our club up, and every right to discuss it as often as we want. 
I blame MoN and Randy.  MoN for spending the money badly and Randy for letting him do it.  Also we should have known we were getting too big for our boots when we sent the Ladies 3rd team to play a European game we should have won...

You can post what you want, as can I, but it's not a discussion, it's the same few people making the same points over and over again. Nobody is going to change their mind or post any fresh insights. In reality it's just a thread for people to let of steam and, as Bren says, it will probably continue until Lambert gets us back to a similar level.

[peter w]

We have every right to discuss what has fucked our club up, and every right to discuss it as often as we want. 
I blame MoN and Randy.  MoN for spending the money badly and Randy for letting him do it.  Also we should have known we were getting too big for our boots when we sent the Ladies 3rd team to play a European game we should have won...

You can post what you want, as can I, but it's not a discussion, it's the same few people making the same points over and over again. Nobody is going to change their mind or post any fresh insights. In reality it's just a thread for people to let of steam and, as Bren says, it will probably continue until Lambert gets us back to a similar level.

Whilst true it doesn't stop O'Neill being a c*** for leaving us how he did. We'll forget about him but only when when our own performances make his less worthwhile of comment. A lot like our rivalry with Small Heath.

[Villadroid]

We have every right to discuss what has fucked our club up, and every right to discuss it as often as we want. 
I blame MoN and Randy.  MoN for spending the money badly and Randy for letting him do it.  Also we should have known we were getting too big for our boots when we sent the Ladies 3rd team to play a European game we should have won...

You can post what you want, as can I, but it's not a discussion, it's the same few people making the same points over and over again. Nobody is going to change their mind or post any fresh insights. In reality it's just a thread for people to let of steam and, as Bren says, it will probably continue until Lambert gets us back to a similar level.

Wouldn't that apply to all threads?

[Steve R]

I have been trying to think who Villadroid reminds me of. It has just occurred to me - the character played by Bernard Cribbins in the Hotel Inspectors episode of Fawlty Towers.

I think I might have that somewhere. I will try and find it out and see how true it might be.

Yep, I found it. A pedant with Northern accent. I think I quite like that.

Most people I know have northern accents, it wouldn't be that.

It was more the shallow verbal diarrhoea. Handy when trying to dress up a bit of trolling but of little use otherwise.

Well done for keeping a copy of a Fawlty Towers episode close at hand.

[Salsa Party Animal]

It would be interesting story to talk.

What if MON buy a decent striker instead of Harewood/Heskey and actually qualify for Champions League group stages. Will the like of Milner, Barry and Young be staying at Villa Park.

What if we appoint another man to manage Aston Villa instead of MON. Say Jurgen Klinsmann for example.

[Villadroid]

I have been trying to think who Villadroid reminds me of. It has just occurred to me - the character played by Bernard Cribbins in the Hotel Inspectors episode of Fawlty Towers.

I think I might have that somewhere. I will try and find it out and see how true it might be.

Yep, I found it. A pedant with Northern accent. I think I quite like that.

Most people I know have northern accents, it wouldn't be that.

It was more the shallow verbal diarrhoea. Handy when trying to dress up a bit of trolling but of little use otherwise.

Well done for keeping a copy of a Fawlty Towers episode close at hand.

I get the feeling that you are trying to hurt my feelings but I could be wrong.

As for trolling, Villa is a far too serious topic for that.

So if I am the Hotel Inspector, who do you think is the moose?

[Percy McCarthy]

He wasn't a hotel inspector, he was a spoon salesman. Are you sure you just watched that episode?

The moose was in 'The Germans' BTW.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

He wasn't a hotel inspector, he was a spoon salesman. Are you sure you just watched that episode?

The moose was in 'The Germans' BTW.

'Sppppooooooons'

'I beg your pardon'

'My Wife tells me you sell spoons, how interesting, how very interesting, must be so much more interesting THAN BEING A HOTEL INSPECTOR!'

[Villadroid]

He wasn't a hotel inspector, he was a spoon salesman. Are you sure you just watched that episode?

The moose was in 'The Germans' BTW.

I only watched the opening scene of the Hotel Inspector and Cribbins is in that opening scene, to check it out.

I was aware that the moose is in The Germans.

Thanks for your concern.