The Martin O'Neill thread (with added sacking #2188)

[PGW]

Where have i seen all those comments before!!!!!!

Oh on here ....silly me!

[Risso]

How do Sunderland's wages compare to Spurs though?

[JUAN PABLO]

they have not mentioned he plays his fave players even If they are in the wrong position or unfit/tired.

[Brend'Watkins]

The lack of a recognized right back doesn't appear to be an issue.  They still have a long way to go yet.

[dave.woodhall]

I work for a Washington [the original one] based company and many are Sunderland fans, I was up there yesterday and here is a flavour for there thoughts on MON

"He always plays the same players no matter what!"
"He hardly ever uses his subs and when he does its always too late in the game"
"He doesnt seem to like any of our youngsters"
"He has apparently said to the board that he wants more money to buy more players, but our bench is full of players he never picks"
"His style of play is so bloody boring I'm thinking of not renewing my season ticket next season, I had asked myself what I was doing there the other week!"
"He is like a 90's manager stuck in a timewarp"

All those were honest thoughts from the Sunderland fans I spoke to yesterday

Doesn't rhyme or scan.  Poor effort. 

[MarkM]

I work for a Washington [the original one] based company and many are Sunderland fans, I was up there yesterday and here is a flavour for there thoughts on MON

"He always plays the same players no matter what!"
"He hardly ever uses his subs and when he does its always too late in the game"
"He doesnt seem to like any of our youngsters"
"He has apparently said to the board that he wants more money to buy more players, but our bench is full of players he never picks"
"His style of play is so bloody boring I'm thinking of not renewing my season ticket next season, I had asked myself what I was doing there the other week!"
"He is like a 90's manager stuck in a timewarp"

All those were honest thoughts from the Sunderland fans I spoke to yesterday

Doesn't rhyme or scan.  Poor effort. 

It does if you say it in a North East accent!

[not3bad]

"He has apparently said to the board that he wants more money to buy more players, but our bench is full of players he never picks"

So what happens when the board tell him he has to offload some of these players he never picks before he can buy?  I think I might have an inkling...

[Villadroid]

Can anyone offer any insight into why Mon's resignation is seen as a betrayal and yet Ron Saunders' resignation over money, during the run up to Villa's finest hour, is not?

Saunders even went to the Birmingham City but no one blamed him, they blamed the board.

The consequences for Villa as a result of the resignation were significant to say the least.

So why the double-standard?

[dave.woodhall]

Can anyone offer any insight into why Mon's resignation is seen as a betrayal and yet Ron Saunders' resignation over money, during the run up to Villa's finest hour, is not?

Saunders even went to the Birmingham City but no one blamed him, they blamed the board.

The consequences for Villa as a result of the resignation were significant to say the least.

So why the double-standard?

Because nobody knows why Saunders really left and his legacy was a bit more than huge debt.

[Chico Hamilton III]

Saunders even went to the Birmingham City but no one blamed him

Because he got them relegated.

And as part of a special BOGOF deal, he took Albion down in the same season.

What possible reason would there be to blame him for doing that?

with apologies for not getting any of the above to rhyme

[Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle]

I haven't read any of this thread since page 6. Can someone cover the salient points for me so I don't have to read all the rest please?

Has anyone mentioned Moscow yet?

[not3bad]

Has anyone mentioned Moscow yet?

Yes.  It was generally agreed that if Hitler had pressed his attack in 1941 the Russian campaign would have ended swiftly.

[Villadroid]

Can anyone offer any insight into why Mon's resignation is seen as a betrayal and yet Ron Saunders' resignation over money, during the run up to Villa's finest hour, is not?

Saunders even went to the Birmingham City but no one blamed him, they blamed the board.

The consequences for Villa as a result of the resignation were significant to say the least.

So why the double-standard?

Do you think crossing to the dark side would be so easily forgiven these days?

Because nobody knows why Saunders really left and his legacy was a bit more than huge debt.

[dave.woodhall]

He wasn't forgiven for a long time. It took a good few years before he became the elder statesman figure he now enjoys.   

[WarszaVillan]

He wasn't forgiven for a long time. It took a good few years before he became the elder statesman figure he now enjoys.   

That's very true. Remember the song 'there's a circus in the town, ronnie saunders is the clown' I was quite suprised when I started reading H&V online ten years ago or so to see that he was so well remembered by Villa fans.