The Martin O'Neill thread (with added sacking #2188)

[glasses]

His purchases were sactioned by idiots. He bought badly at times, no doubt. The trust he was given and the reasoning for it was criminal for a football club.

It's not like we stopped spending either, or paying ludicrous wages. Bent, Shay Given, Alan Hutton, Jenas, N'Zogbia. We aren't talking about small amounts off money there.

[dave.woodhall]

You can't keep spending more than your income and you can't rely on the benevolence of your owner forever. And to correct the above oft-repeated error - Faulkner arrived with Randy.

[Villadroid]

You can't keep spending more than your income and you can't rely on the benevolence of your owner forever. And to correct the above oft-repeated error - Faulkner arrived with Randy.

That is the mantra but Villa are a club which has a turnover of £100m and television income is about to rise by 60% (2014), so how come they can only sign Football League players these days.

And in the end we have to decide whether Villa's financial position was so uniquely terrible that the club needed to take a huge gamble with relegation to put it right.

If the answer is yes, then those responsible cannot be given the fig-leaf of being called naive, they have to be considered criminally culpable.

[eastie]

You can't keep spending more than your income and you can't rely on the benevolence of your owner forever. And to correct the above oft-repeated error - Faulkner arrived with Randy.

Yes dave, but he was only appointed as chief executive in may 2010 and mon left weeks later .-


The club are very pleased to announce that all round top man Paul Faulkner has been appointed as the club's Chief Executive.

The announcement was made on the Official Site a few short moments ago.

Speaking briefly in the announcement Randy said:

'I'm very gratified to announce the appointment of Paul as Chief Executive. His involvement with all aspects of the club combined with his tireless commitment makes him, in my judgement, a sound and promising choice.'

Paul added:

'I am both very excited and very humbled to have been appointed. It is a real honour and privilege to have been involved with this great club and I look forward to starting to prepare for the 2010-2011 season and beyond.'

[Rip Van We Go Again]

Still think that Post-Sunderland, MON's reputation will remain intact.
The supporters will start booing, he'll walk and his journalist mate's will say that they were 'Impatient bastards who hounded him out.'

[not3bad]

so how come they can only sign Football League players these days.

Are El Ahmadi, Brett Holman and Ron Vlaar football league players?

EDIT - And Benteke!  Can't believe I forgot to list him!

[Ger Regan]

You can't keep spending more than your income and you can't rely on the benevolence of your owner forever. And to correct the above oft-repeated error - Faulkner arrived with Randy.

That is the mantra but Villa are a club which has a turnover of £100m and television income is about to rise by 60% (2014), so how come they can only sign Football League players these days.

And in the end we have to decide whether Villa's financial position was so uniquely terrible that the club needed to take a huge gamble with relegation to put it right.

If the answer is yes, then those responsible cannot be given the fig-leaf of being called naive, they have to be considered criminally culpable.

They don't though, do they?

[JUAN PABLO]

and signing like Ashley Young from the football league are fine and that was not *these days*

[Mazrim]

Clearly spending had to be reined in due to the profligacy of the MON era.
And no, it's not just his fault at all. However this thread is about MON's reputation or 'legend'.

Randy and Co have already been (sometimes rightly) hammered for it whereas outside of this club MON has been as Teflon.

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

He'll walk out and make an excuse before Sunderland pull the trigger.

If I was Sunderland I would be checking him every day he comes into work to make sure he isn't carrying a wire. I would also be tape recording any conversation anybody from the club has with him and keeping the tapes in a very secure and secret place in case his people try to break in to get them. He's worse than Nixon I tell ya !

[pauliewalnuts]

I looked in on the main Sunderland forum this morning, and they seemed to have convinced themselves that the problem is that whilst Walford when there with MON, John Robertson chose to retire.

[Villadroid]

You can't keep spending more than your income and you can't rely on the benevolence of your owner forever. And to correct the above oft-repeated error - Faulkner arrived with Randy.

That is the mantra but Villa are a club which has a turnover of £100m and television income is about to rise by 60% (2014), so how come they can only sign Football League players these days.

And in the end we have to decide whether Villa's financial position was so uniquely terrible that the club needed to take a huge gamble with relegation to put it right.

If the answer is yes, then those responsible cannot be given the fig-leaf of being called naive, they have to be considered criminally culpable.

They don't though, do they?

Thanks for that reminder that any reasoned argument can be avoided with a quibble.

So concision it is, then.

But truly, setting aside all pedantry, one really can't help but feel, after considered observation, that Villa's squad seems rather replete with the sort of cheap players, whose potential one can't help having doubts about.

When there are squad players lacking even a Wiki entry, one can't help but feel that a club of Aston Villa's indubitable status, is being rather modest in its aspirations.

Cheeseparing even!

[eastie]

I looked in on the main Sunderland forum this morning, and they seemed to have convinced themselves that the problem is that whilst Walford when there with MON, John Robertson chose to retire.

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Clutching at straws, robbo was no Peter Taylor and mon is definitely no cloughie!

[eastie]

You can't keep spending more than your income and you can't rely on the benevolence of your owner forever. And to correct the above oft-repeated error - Faulkner arrived with Randy.

That is the mantra but Villa are a club which has a turnover of £100m and television income is about to rise by 60% (2014), so how come they can only sign Football League players these days.

And in the end we have to decide whether Villa's financial position was so uniquely terrible that the club needed to take a huge gamble with relegation to put it right.

If the answer is yes, then those responsible cannot be given the fig-leaf of being called naive, they have to be considered criminally culpable.

They don't though, do they?

Thanks for that reminder that any reasoned argument can be avoided with a quibble.

So concision it is, then.

But truly, setting aside all pedantry, one really can't help but feel, after considered observation, that Villa's squad seems rather replete with the sort of cheap players, whose potential one can't help having doubts about.

When there are squad players lacking even a Wiki entry, one can't help but feel that a club of Aston Villa's indubitable status, is being rather modest in its aspirations.

Cheeseparing even!

Goodness gracious , so many words there I've never even heard of , have another plum sir, I thought you were Leonard Sachs for a minute!

Ps- welcome to the site by the way - your posts are interesting ..

[Chico Hamilton III]

one really can't help but feel, after considered observation, that Villa's squad seems rather replete with the sort of cheap players, whose potential one can't help having doubts about

Are you Prince William?