The Martin O'Neill thread (with added sacking #2188)

[nick harper]

Can he sell us Gardner first . 6 mths ago I would have said no bloody way , look to the future. 

but watching him yesterday I thought , I would love him in our midfielder , he looked good , come on MON swap for Dunne and Warnock.

Said this 12 months ago. He's continuing to improve and chips in with a few goals. Would add considerable bite to our lightweight midfield.

[N'ZMAV]

He'll walk out and make an excuse before Sunderland pull the trigger.

I never got the funds

Ah, good one.

[not3bad]

I was thinking this morning that it would be pretty cool to see MON's Sunderland and Rednapp's Rangers go down together.  Just as long as we're not going with them!

[Villadroid]

This is just your usual collection of journos repeating every known prejudice about someone, knowing that fans will find something to agree with. There is something for everyone in there and the cods-wallop shouldn't be confused with reasoned opinion.

They reiterate the Villa fans' orthodoxy that everything that is wrong with Villa, even Lerner losing interest, is O'Neill's fault.

Its not Martin O'Neill who is only capable of being a mid-table club it is Sunderland. Spending £25m on two players is not enough to transform the black cats into CL contenders. Just as what he spent at Villa was never going to be enough to lay siege to the positions of teams who either have enjoyed a decade or more of CL monies, made a lucky lucrative signing, or just threw as much money at the problem as it took.

Whatever the failings of MON as a manager and he is not perfect, crowing about his present problems, in an effort to feel better about Villa's present determination to get relegated, is just a childish red herring.

Anyone with any sense can see now, why he left, because he knew the truth Lerner and Faulkner never had the guts to share with the fans.

[LeeB]

This is just your usual collection of journos repeating every known prejudice about someone, knowing that fans will find something to agree with. There is something for everyone in there and the cods-wallop shouldn't be confused with reasoned opinion.

They reiterate the Villa fans' orthodoxy that everything that is wrong with Villa, even Lerner losing interest, is O'Neill's fault.

Its not Martin O'Neill who is only capable of being a mid-table club it is Sunderland. Spending £25m on two players is not enough to transform the black cats into CL contenders. Just as what he spent at Villa was never going to be enough to lay siege to the positions of teams who either have enjoyed a decade or more of CL monies, made a lucky lucrative signing, or just threw as much money at the problem as it took.

Whatever the failings of MON as a manager and he is not perfect, crowing about his present problems, in an effort to feel better about Villa's present determination to get relegated, is just a childish red herring.

Anyone with any sense can see now, why he left, because he knew the truth Lerner and Faulkner never had the guts to share with the fans.

Thanks, Henry.

[NeilH]

Anyone with any sense can see now, why he left, because he knew the truth Lerner and Faulkner never had the guts to share with the fans.

What the truth being that the club could not afford to bankroll his signings any more and needed to cut their cloth accordingly.

How dare they look at the finances of the club and make a rational decision. We should have just kept spending, spending, spending and ended up in administration. That's what MON wanted.

[Drummond]

MONbot

[not3bad]

Prefer Fembots myself.  They can shoot bullets from their knockers and everything.

[Chris Smith]

Anyone with any sense can see now, why he left, because he knew the truth Lerner and Faulkner never had the guts to share with the fans.

What the truth being that the club could not afford to bankroll his signings any more and needed to cut their cloth accordingly.

How dare they look at the finances of the club and make a rational decision. We should have just kept spending, spending, spending and ended up in administration. That's what MON wanted.

Why would we have ended up in administration? Randy's a wealthy man so could have afforded it if he saw fit. He decided not to and as it's his money he's within his rights but the truth is things changed.

[Mazrim]

You are not the droid we're looking for.

[ozzjim]

Anyone with any sense can see now, why he left, because he knew the truth Lerner and Faulkner never had the guts to share with the fans.

What the truth being that the club could not afford to bankroll his signings any more and needed to cut their cloth accordingly.

How dare they look at the finances of the club and make a rational decision. We should have just kept spending, spending, spending and ended up in administration. That's what MON wanted.

Why would we have ended up in administration? Randy's a wealthy man so could have afforded it if he saw fit. He decided not to and as it's his money he's within his rights but the truth is things changed.

The change had come a lot sooner in the summer than when he chose to throw the toys out though. His timing was rotten, and his purchases were the reason the change was necessary.

[JUAN PABLO]

nice to see the media pubehead ass lickers gone quiet . Where are you Oliver c**t .

[eastie]

Anyone with any sense can see now, why he left, because he knew the truth Lerner and Faulkner never had the guts to share with the fans.

What the truth being that the club could not afford to bankroll his signings any more and needed to cut their cloth accordingly.

How dare they look at the finances of the club and make a rational decision. We should have just kept spending, spending, spending and ended up in administration. That's what MON wanted.

Why would we have ended up in administration? Randy's a wealthy man so could have afforded it if he saw fit. He decided not to and as it's his money he's within his rights but the truth is things changed.

I think chris there's some truth in that, mon said they shared different visions in the end and I think randy pulling the plug on spending and the arrival or Faulkner probably tipped mon over the edge and he walked- I do not think that he planned to go in the week of the new season to cause massive upheaval, I just think something tipped him over the edge and he'd had enough .

I do however think he should have gone earlier as he had taken the club as far as he could in my view.

[Chris Smith]

Anyone with any sense can see now, why he left, because he knew the truth Lerner and Faulkner never had the guts to share with the fans.

What the truth being that the club could not afford to bankroll his signings any more and needed to cut their cloth accordingly.

How dare they look at the finances of the club and make a rational decision. We should have just kept spending, spending, spending and ended up in administration. That's what MON wanted.

Why would we have ended up in administration? Randy's a wealthy man so could have afforded it if he saw fit. He decided not to and as it's his money he's within his rights but the truth is things changed.

The change had come a lot sooner in the summer than when he chose to throw the toys out though. His timing was rotten, and his purchases were the reason the change was necessary.

That's not what I asked, though. I questioned why we were destined for administration.

[not3bad]

Is the opinion that everything is MON's fault really "Villa fans orthodoxy"?