The Martin O'Neill thread (with added sacking #2188)

[kippaxvilla2]

Paulie, I can't remember what happened 5 minutes ago, nevermind what my thoughts were on squad players last season!  No doubtu someone will dredge up some embarrassing quote.

[dave.woodhall]

He was taking us to the level of ambition the club declared and was funding. He had me believing we'd get there. £120m on players and £70m wages is enough for a good manager to begin challenging for CL places and trophies and we were beginning to do that.

One hundred and ninety million pounds. And counting.

[villainjock]

in the last ten years, football fans have not only had to study tactics in football but you really need an A-level in business finance and media studies and for that reason i'm out!

[dave.woodhall]

in the last ten years, football fans have not only had to study tactics in football but you really need an A-level in business finance and media studies and for that reason i'm out!

A friend of mine said he gave up when he realised the fans were talking like accountants.

[sfx412]

A thought. Would Randy have turned round virtually in mid-Atlantic and come back if his heart was no longer in the club?

I haven't said his heart isn't in the club.  I just believe he has downgraded his and our ambitions.

If RL has and I doubt it long term, its only because of the fiscal problems created by Mon's policies, policies that left Celtic with the same headaches when he left to look after his wife.

[luke95]

My favourite victories under MON:

Derby 0-6 Villa
Villa 2-0 Chavski
Villa 5-1 small heath
Everton 2-3 Villa
Arsenal 0-2 Villa
Liverpool 1-3 Villa
United 0-1 Villa

Lots of great games and memories of O'Neill - I do feel people are going a bit OTT. OK, he was annoying at times, and has left at a really bad time, but you can't say he hasn't turned us around as a team. He has taken us far and hopefully our next manager can take us that step closer to Champions League football.

He took us back to where we've been, on average, for the past twenty years. His time at Villa was like every other part of that period, just without the ups and downs.

I think he took us above our average over the last 20 years to be fair .

[dave.woodhall]

My favourite victories under MON:

Derby 0-6 Villa
Villa 2-0 Chavski
Villa 5-1 small heath
Everton 2-3 Villa
Arsenal 0-2 Villa
Liverpool 1-3 Villa
United 0-1 Villa

Lots of great games and memories of O'Neill - I do feel people are going a bit OTT. OK, he was annoying at times, and has left at a really bad time, but you can't say he hasn't turned us around as a team. He has taken us far and hopefully our next manager can take us that step closer to Champions League football.

He took us back to where we've been, on average, for the past twenty years. His time at Villa was like every other part of that period, just without the ups and downs.

I think he took us above our average over the last 20 years to be fair .

Fifth highest points scorers since 1992 and the fifth highest average place.

[Villa'Zawg]

He was taking us to the level of ambition the club declared and was funding. He had me believing we'd get there. £120m on players and £70m wages is enough for a good manager to begin challenging for CL places and trophies and we were beginning to do that.

One hundred and ninety million pounds. And counting.

One hundred and ninety million pounds spent on players?

[Pete3206]

There have been some great moments in the last 4 years, but also a lot of mistakes as well. When all said and done, he couldn't bear to be told what to do and didn't have the balls to see the job through.

MON will never get a better job and it's unlikely that Villa can attract another manager of his calibre. A sad end to another false dawn.

[dave.woodhall]

He was taking us to the level of ambition the club declared and was funding. He had me believing we'd get there. £120m on players and £70m wages is enough for a good manager to begin challenging for CL places and trophies and we were beginning to do that.

One hundred and ninety million pounds. And counting.

One hundred and ninety million pounds spent on players?

120 + 70 =?

[Villa'Zawg]

...

For the first time, he's asked MON to do something about the wage bill. Not balance it, not make incomings match outgoings, just to work on it. ...

If there was any evidence that was the case I would agree wholeheartedly that he was a wanker.

[Villa'Zawg]

He was taking us to the level of ambition the club declared and was funding. He had me believing we'd get there. £120m on players and £70m wages is enough for a good manager to begin challenging for CL places and trophies and we were beginning to do that.

One hundred and ninety million pounds. And counting.

One hundred and ninety million pounds spent on players?

120 + 70 =?

 If the ambition is to be top four,  that's the minimum cost, it's way below average. It almost certainly couldn't be done for less.

[luke95]

My favourite victories under MON:

Derby 0-6 Villa
Villa 2-0 Chavski
Villa 5-1 small heath
Everton 2-3 Villa
Arsenal 0-2 Villa
Liverpool 1-3 Villa
United 0-1 Villa

Lots of great games and memories of O'Neill - I do feel people are going a bit OTT. OK, he was annoying at times, and has left at a really bad time, but you can't say he hasn't turned us around as a team. He has taken us far and hopefully our next manager can take us that step closer to Champions League football.

He took us back to where we've been, on average, for the past twenty years. His time at Villa was like every other part of that period, just without the ups and downs.

I think he took us above our average over the last 20 years to be fair .

Fifth highest points scorers since 1992 and the fifth highest average place.

Those figures dont really tell the truth of how we finished season upon season tho do they .
9th/10th is probably a more realistic position . 

[RogerS]

Thanks for the memories, and a great big fuck you for screwing us over in the end.

If that's what he has done (and I have reason to doubt it).  Doesn't mean we erase the memories.  He made us feel proud of our
club again.

You have reason to doubt he walked out five days before the start of the season? And I never stopped feeling proud of my club. 

Agreed. My pride in Aston Villa had nothing to do with Martin O'Neill.

For the record I'll remember some great games under O'Neill, and of course 4 derby victories over Small Heath. But I'll never forget how he fucked us over and walked out 5 days before the start of the season, which is possibly the most disgusting thing any Villa employee has ever done to our great club.

You mean you don't remember Steve Hodge.....?

[dave.woodhall]

My favourite victories under MON:

Derby 0-6 Villa
Villa 2-0 Chavski
Villa 5-1 small heath
Everton 2-3 Villa
Arsenal 0-2 Villa
Liverpool 1-3 Villa
United 0-1 Villa

Lots of great games and memories of O'Neill - I do feel people are going a bit OTT. OK, he was annoying at times, and has left at a really bad time, but you can't say he hasn't turned us around as a team. He has taken us far and hopefully our next manager can take us that step closer to Champions League football.

He took us back to where we've been, on average, for the past twenty years. His time at Villa was like every other part of that period, just without the ups and downs.

I think he took us above our average over the last 20 years to be fair .

Fifth highest points scorers since 1992 and the fifth highest average place.

Those figures dont really tell the truth of how we finished season upon season tho do they .
9th/10th is probably a more realistic position . 

No, fifth is more realistic based on fact. Find me nine clubs who have done better than us.