Quote from: John M on August 11, 2010, 02:08:41 PMAs an aside, I never quite understood the idea that Gray was anti-Villa given his criticism of us when posters on here say far worse and we never question their loyalty to the club.None of us have walked out three times and stabbed managers in the back.
As an aside, I never quite understood the idea that Gray was anti-Villa given his criticism of us when posters on here say far worse and we never question their loyalty to the club.
Quote from: John M on August 11, 2010, 02:08:41 PMAs an aside, I never quite understood the idea that Gray was anti-Villa given his criticism of us when posters on here say far worse and we never question their loyalty to the club.We're doing in on a relatively obscure internet forum in front of a handful of fellow Villa fans, he's doing it on national TV.
What's the difference with him seeing faults as he wants the best for us and us doing exactly the same thing?
QuoteWhat's the difference with him seeing faults as he wants the best for us and us doing exactly the same thing? the way I see it is that we're all Villa mad on here and as such we are entitled to slate our own club/family ( tough love and all that). But as soon as someone from the outside does the same, we on here close ranks.I'll listen to anyone on here tell me that Villa are shite. Any other supporter said the same, I'd punch their lights out ( assuming I thought that the odds of me not getting battered were in my favour).Irrational? of course
Quote from: Dave Cooper on August 11, 2010, 03:46:40 PMQuote from: John M on August 11, 2010, 02:08:41 PMAs an aside, I never quite understood the idea that Gray was anti-Villa given his criticism of us when posters on here say far worse and we never question their loyalty to the club.We're doing in on a relatively obscure internet forum in front of a handful of fellow Villa fans, he's doing it on national TV.So some of our more extreme contributors would dilute their views if put infront of a TV camera? What's the difference with him seeing faults as he wants the best for us and us doing exactly the same thing?
the way I see it is that we're all Villa mad on here and as such we are entitled to slate our own club/family ( tough love and all that). But as soon as someone from the outside does the same, we on here close ranks.
Guess that's my point - maybe he is just a passionate Villa fan that also happens to be a TV pundit?
Even worse than finding Andy Gray the sole voice of reason in the media was hearing Tony Cascarino making an even better point this morning on SSN.Christ. I can't handle this. Chris and Villadawg have become miserablists, I sound like a happy clapper, and Tony Cascarino sounds like the voice of reason.