Nice twisting of what I was saying.....Firstly, the temerity of Liverpool fans to be glory-hunting, that renders their opinions meaningless does it?? Surely the fans of the only club in England he managed for 5 years has some siginificance.Im sure you realise that the PL is completely different now than it was when Houllier was managing Liverpool. No mega bucks Chelsea, City even Spurs were struggling. Granted you had Leeds for a couple of years splashing the cash. He came into manage Liverpool who had been knocking on the door of a title challenge for years, never mounted a serious challenge, alienated top players. He won that treble of cups when Liverpool should have been (a) challenging for the title (b) in the Champions League not the UEFA Cup. If he could do it with Villa I'd be delighted, but doing it with Liverpool, at that time was not achieving what he was brought in to do.I can't actually believe I'm having to debate that Houllier is not the right man. I thought there would be universal uproar at this.
Quote from: jonzy85 on September 03, 2010, 12:31:13 PMNice twisting of what I was saying.....Firstly, the temerity of Liverpool fans to be glory-hunting, that renders their opinions meaningless does it?? Surely the fans of the only club in England he managed for 5 years has some siginificance.Im sure you realise that the PL is completely different now than it was when Houllier was managing Liverpool. No mega bucks Chelsea, City even Spurs were struggling. Granted you had Leeds for a couple of years splashing the cash. He came into manage Liverpool who had been knocking on the door of a title challenge for years, never mounted a serious challenge, alienated top players. He won that treble of cups when Liverpool should have been (a) challenging for the title (b) in the Champions League not the UEFA Cup. If he could do it with Villa I'd be delighted, but doing it with Liverpool, at that time was not achieving what he was brought in to do.I can't actually believe I'm having to debate that Houllier is not the right man. I thought there would be universal uproar at this.I'm not twisting anything - I'm disagreeing with you. Sorry, but it happens. Like managers walking out and dumping their club in the shit, and Liverpool supporters being gloryhunters.
Dont see your point about Liverpool supporters....makes no sense. You are criticizing them because they want to win trophies?The fact that they didnt like a manager who did not bring them the trophies they wanted and should have been competing for renders them glory-hunters?
Quote from: jonzy85 on September 03, 2010, 12:44:53 PMDont see your point about Liverpool supporters....makes no sense. You are criticizing them because they want to win trophies?The fact that they didnt like a manager who did not bring them the trophies they wanted and should have been competing for renders them glory-hunters?No, supporting Liverpool renders them gloryhunters.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on September 03, 2010, 12:46:41 PMQuote from: jonzy85 on September 03, 2010, 12:44:53 PMDont see your point about Liverpool supporters....makes no sense. You are criticizing them because they want to win trophies?The fact that they didnt like a manager who did not bring them the trophies they wanted and should have been competing for renders them glory-hunters?No, supporting Liverpool renders them gloryhunters. How so?
Are people pretty certain it is going to be Houllier? Dave?East19? If so will it be as manager or DOF?I think it would be a great appointment. Our scouting syspem has been lacking for years. I don't buy the list of bad signings. All managers have poor signings and the fact is all of those players would have got in the Villa squad at the same time.
For those who have posted last season that they wanted MON out - who on the rumoured shortlist of possible candidiates do you see as better than him?