The replacement for MON...?

[dave.woodhall]

Nice twisting of what I was saying.....

Firstly, the temerity of Liverpool fans to be glory-hunting, that renders their opinions meaningless does it?? Surely the fans of the only club in England he managed for 5 years has some siginificance.

Im sure you realise that the PL is completely different now than it was when Houllier was managing Liverpool. No mega bucks Chelsea, City even Spurs were struggling. Granted you had Leeds for a couple of years splashing the cash. He came into manage Liverpool who had been knocking on the door of a title challenge for years, never mounted a serious challenge, alienated top players. He won that treble of cups when Liverpool should have been (a) challenging for the title (b) in the Champions League not the UEFA Cup. If he could do it with Villa I'd be delighted, but doing it with Liverpool, at that time was not achieving what he was brought in to do.

I can't actually believe I'm having to debate that Houllier is not the right man. I thought there would be universal uproar at this.

I'm not twisting anything  - I'm disagreeing with you. Sorry, but it happens. Like managers walking out and dumping their club in the shit, and Liverpool supporters being gloryhunters.

[eastie]

He's still many years younger than sir alex and sir bobby was , I would give him A 3 yr deal and hope he can hand on to a younger manager after that , 12 months would leave him somewhat in limbo!

[stevenjos]

Houllier on a 12 month contract would be fine if there is really no one out there. But as a long term option i cant see someone that old been the way forward.

As far as director of football (houllier) and coach (Kmac) combo goes, i really cannot see it working.

[jonzy85]

Nice twisting of what I was saying.....

Firstly, the temerity of Liverpool fans to be glory-hunting, that renders their opinions meaningless does it?? Surely the fans of the only club in England he managed for 5 years has some siginificance.

Im sure you realise that the PL is completely different now than it was when Houllier was managing Liverpool. No mega bucks Chelsea, City even Spurs were struggling. Granted you had Leeds for a couple of years splashing the cash. He came into manage Liverpool who had been knocking on the door of a title challenge for years, never mounted a serious challenge, alienated top players. He won that treble of cups when Liverpool should have been (a) challenging for the title (b) in the Champions League not the UEFA Cup. If he could do it with Villa I'd be delighted, but doing it with Liverpool, at that time was not achieving what he was brought in to do.

I can't actually believe I'm having to debate that Houllier is not the right man. I thought there would be universal uproar at this.

I'm not twisting anything  - I'm disagreeing with you. Sorry, but it happens. Like managers walking out and dumping their club in the shit, and Liverpool supporters being gloryhunters.

Dont see your point about Liverpool supporters....makes no sense. You are criticizing them because they want to win trophies?
The fact that they didnt like a manager who did not bring them the trophies they wanted and should have been competing for renders them glory-hunters?

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Are people pretty certain it is going to be Houllier? Dave?East19? If so will it be as manager or DOF?

I think it would be a great appointment. Our scouting syspem has been lacking for years. I don't buy the list of bad signings. All managers have poor signings and the fact is all of those players would have got in the Villa squad at the same time.

[dave.woodhall]

Dont see your point about Liverpool supporters....makes no sense. You are criticizing them because they want to win trophies?
The fact that they didnt like a manager who did not bring them the trophies they wanted and should have been competing for renders them glory-hunters?

No, supporting Liverpool renders them gloryhunters.

[jonzy85]

Dont see your point about Liverpool supporters....makes no sense. You are criticizing them because they want to win trophies?
The fact that they didnt like a manager who did not bring them the trophies they wanted and should have been competing for renders them glory-hunters?

No, supporting Liverpool renders them gloryhunters.

How so?

[Irreverent ad]

Dont see your point about Liverpool supporters....makes no sense. You are criticizing them because they want to win trophies?
The fact that they didnt like a manager who did not bring them the trophies they wanted and should have been competing for renders them glory-hunters?

No, supporting Liverpool renders them gloryhunters.

How so?

Have you ever been to London Euston on the morning of a Liverpool game? Absolute sea of red...utter madness

[Surrey Villain]

Are people pretty certain it is going to be Houllier? Dave?East19? If so will it be as manager or DOF?

I think it would be a great appointment. Our scouting syspem has been lacking for years. I don't buy the list of bad signings. All managers have poor signings and the fact is all of those players would have got in the Villa squad at the same time.

More important question - which one would be on the touchline to be asked to give us a wave?

[montague]

The Liverpool team that won the CL in 2005 had 9 of Houliers team in the starting line up, of which he signed 6. Steve G has often praised Houliers contribution to his development. He has won several French titles and got Lyon to the last 8 of the CL . In the UK a  league cup, FA cup and UEFA cup. Is widely credited as driving the French academey and youth development that spawned much of the 1998 world cup winning team. Has international management experience which would have been more had it not been for a freak last minute goal.

Apart from Sven I dont see too many other potential candidates with a better traxck record.   

[TheEgo]

Dont see your point about Liverpool supporters....makes no sense. You are criticizing them because they want to win trophies?
The fact that they didnt like a manager who did not bring them the trophies they wanted and should have been competing for renders them glory-hunters?

No, supporting Liverpool renders them gloryhunters.

Even if they live and grew up in Liverpool? Don't see it myself.

[lovejoy]

For those who have posted last season that they wanted MON out - who on the rumoured shortlist of possible candidiates do you see as better than him?

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For those who have posted last season that they wanted MON out - who on the rumoured shortlist of possible candidiates do you see as better than him?

Sven & Houllier

[jonzy85]

If Houllier is appointed i hope I am completely wrong, maybe he will modernize our scouting structure and bring some new ideas, but I can't see it.

Since he left Liverpool he managed Lyon for 2 years, retained their title both times, but left because they weren't happy that he hadn't improved them from Le Guen's time.

He hasn't even been mentioned for any other PL job in years. He signed Milan Baros twice ffs! Got rid of Carew and Friedel in his days.

I will get behind him of course if he is appointed, but I'll be extremely underwhelmed!

[JJ-AV]

My first thoughts were 'meh'. Happy to get behind him though.