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Offline VillaZogmariner

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #1695 on: August 22, 2010, 12:49:53 PM »
You've almost sold Klinsman to me Monty!

Offline supertom

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #1696 on: August 22, 2010, 03:04:36 PM »
Well, safe to say we're gonna need some experience for the role. Someone who can steady a ship at 1 or 2 down and pull it back. 
Not Kev's fault, he's just in over his head, and we were very fortunate to play a diabolically bad West Ham, as further proven by Bolton destroying them at Upton yesterday.

We need to get someone in sharpish though, and sign a couple of players if possible.

But my mood's gone back to how it was just over a week ago, before the opening game. Season over before it's started. :(

Offline Steve67

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #1697 on: August 22, 2010, 03:31:09 PM »
The pressure is on Randy now.  Get a proper manager in sharpish.  The kids aren't quite ready yet but should be bled in over the next season or two.  Get to work Randy.

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #1698 on: August 22, 2010, 03:35:36 PM »
This is the year we might step back to hopefully go forwards. I'm being optimistic off course. Kevin Mac is a very good coach, but he's out of his depth in being a a manager. I think this is a little bit too much for him to handle and I feel for him. He's going to be gutted and take this hard. He needs help and quickly.

Offline PhilGibson

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #1699 on: August 22, 2010, 03:46:24 PM »
Weirdly I feel as if this may have made K Mac and Randy's mind up about sorting a permanent manager out sharpish. We need some leadership and at the moment we do not have it from top to bottom, K Mac is pontificating about taking the job and Randy and Paul Faulkner are nowhere to be seen, this must transmit through to the players. A common sense of purpose and direction is needed pretty sharp.

Offline Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #1700 on: August 22, 2010, 03:47:55 PM »
Can MON be added to the list?

He's by far better than any manager on that list.

Offline BannedUserIAT

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #1701 on: August 22, 2010, 03:57:02 PM »
It was the radio report earlier. The report on the website's fine, but for several news bulletins on the radio earlier they said Bradley had contact from Villa.
Bradley has had contact from Villa.  Did they say Villa contacted him first?

Quote from: Bob Bradley
"There have been discussions with some of my representatives to at least find out the situation"

Quote from: Bob Bradley
"I had some people do some checking just to find out where things stood."

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #1702 on: August 22, 2010, 04:09:23 PM »
Can MON be added to the list?

He's by far better than any manager on that list.

Even if that were true - and it isn't - you're missing the point, which is that the self centred tosser walked out on us five days before the start of the season.

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #1703 on: August 22, 2010, 04:12:47 PM »
Can MON be added to the list?

He's by far better than any manager on that list.

Even if that were true - and it isn't - you're missing the point, which is that the self centred tosser walked out on us five days before the start of the season.

He did and we all pretty much agree that was a tool for doing so. However he shouldn't blamed for today any more than we should go back and commend him for "his team" playing so well against West Ham. Take the two games on their own merits. Today was horrendous, and only the current players and staff need to be made accountable for this. I'll be interested to know what our senior players have to say for themselves.

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #1704 on: August 22, 2010, 04:22:05 PM »
Can MON be added to the list?

He's by far better than any manager on that list.

Even if that were true - and it isn't - you're missing the point, which is that the self centred tosser walked out on us five days before the start of the season.

Amen  ..

Offline MoetVillan

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #1705 on: August 22, 2010, 04:24:11 PM »
I think the point is that Martin O Neill is preferred to any of those managers.  Which is frustratingly how I feel. 

Offline sfx412

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #1706 on: August 22, 2010, 04:25:28 PM »
Were the senior players to blame, though. Albrighton made no contribution, Ireland lacks any defensive skill, we were set up to atatck and did so well for 20 odd minutes and didn't score again. How much was that down to Gabby being absent, as Carews uselessness.
The team selection proved poor, how lucky were we on Thursday?
No changes at half time or before, Heskey before Coker, admitting he should not have played Albrighton and Clarke. The guys inexperienced, no matter how he's built up by all and sundry including BL today he just doesn't know enough to deal with the job and we can't wait for him to learn.

Offline Phil from the upper holte

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #1707 on: August 22, 2010, 04:26:55 PM »
Randy has to show now what he's made of!

Get a new manager in and spend some money otherwise sell the club to someone who will

Offline Dante Lavelli

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #1708 on: August 22, 2010, 04:28:34 PM »
Mark, my opinion on Klinsmann is that Villa is perfect for him. In the same way as he and Loew planned out Germany's future, I could see a similar partnership developing with MacDonald. Football can sometimes be really revisionist: Klinsmann does really well in '06, suddenly it's all about him. He doesn't do so well at Bayern (as you say, lunatic pressures from all sides and he had hardly any actual control on off-field matters), Germany do well in '10, suddenly Klinsmann did nothing and Loew is the architect and genius behind Germany's revival. Fact is that the vision was Klinsmann's, he knew it was also Loew's so he appointed Loew and worked with him. Our experience with MON has shown us that it's no good having one man top-down rule: you need a good team behind the team, and Klinsmann and K Mac would be perfect in my view. Everything fits: the trust in young players; the desire for a possession-based, attacking style; the ability to work with what they have, because K Mac knows exactly how to use the youngsters and reserves and Klinsmann is used to it with the national team, so if you add a couple of signings to that it becomes even better for him.

The great thing about Klinsmann, though, is the sheer combination of factors: the fact that he offers vibrant leadership, youthful (for a manager) vigour, tactical awareness, long-term vision and a desire to really do something in the game is almost priceless, not to mention his high profile. I'd be very excited were Klinsmann to roll up in B6.

Thanks Monty that's exactly my thoughts on the manger situation. 

Read the following article, it is exactly the sort of vision, ambition and long term planning villa will need to be successful as it is clear that Randy is not prepared to 'buy' the league (and why should he...).

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8789682.stm

I would condone K-Mac as his number two - despite today - as he seems to have a good understanding of what the reserves and youth can/can't provide.  Hopefully Klinsmann's many contacts around the globe will mean that a few crucial signings can take place too in the future. 


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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #1709 on: August 22, 2010, 04:28:42 PM »
Can MON be added to the list?

He's by far better than any manager on that list.

Even if that were true - and it isn't - you're missing the point, which is that the self centred tosser walked out on us five days before the start of the season.

He did and we all pretty much agree that was a tool for doing so. However he shouldn't blamed for today any more than we should go back and commend him for "his team" playing so well against West Ham. Take the two games on their own merits. Today was horrendous, and only the current players and staff need to be made accountable for this. I'll be interested to know what our senior players have to say for themselves.

Nothing to do with today, t_v.


 


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