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Online Brend'Watkins

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Re: The end is nigh.
« Reply #510 on: August 09, 2010, 01:37:46 PM »


I thought it was an appalling decision but it didn't have a big impact on how I feel about the club. I thought by holding the dinner they had acknowledged that it was a mistake.

They had acknowledged the mistake that 'they' had made. It is a pity that O'Neill told the bloke to 'shut up' in such a disgusting manner, after he had asked a perfectly valid question. I suspect he treats the players like that when they say or do something that he disagrees with.

That reason for wanting him gone is so last season.

So a person's view now has to be fashionable does it?

No. It's just that I understood that you were offended that O'Neill had said "Oh, shut up" to someone last year soon after it had happened.  I would have thought you'd be over it by now.

Not half as offended as the person it was addressed to and the others on his table.
Sorry if my interpretation of events differ from your Official opinion.

What, he was THAT offended because he was told to shut up? Offended easily isn't he?

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Re: The end is nigh.
« Reply #511 on: August 09, 2010, 01:42:03 PM »
^^^^^^

To be fair Bred_d, you needed to be there to realise why he and his fellow diners were so offended.

Everybody we have spoken to who was at the dinner were shocked by the venom in MoN's voice.

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Re: The end is nigh.
« Reply #512 on: August 09, 2010, 01:47:17 PM »


I thought it was an appalling decision but it didn't have a big impact on how I feel about the club. I thought by holding the dinner they had acknowledged that it was a mistake.

They had acknowledged the mistake that 'they' had made. It is a pity that O'Neill told the bloke to 'shut up' in such a disgusting manner, after he had asked a perfectly valid question. I suspect he treats the players like that when they say or do something that he disagrees with.

That reason for wanting him gone is so last season.

So a person's view now has to be fashionable does it?

No. It's just that I understood that you were offended that O'Neill had said "Oh, shut up" to someone last year soon after it had happened.  I would have thought you'd be over it by now.

Not half as offended as the person it was addressed to and the others on his table.
Sorry if my interpretation of events differ from your Official opinion.

I'm not sure what the difference in interpretation is. The version I heard was that O'Neill gave 30 min speech, somebody followed that up with something like "why did you bother entering the competition in the first place" (which some people interpreted as disrespectful and argumentative) , O'Neill replied "oh, shut up", somebody later commented to Faulkner on it, Faulkner spoke to O'Neill, O'Neill apologised to the chap in case he had been offended.

As someone who was there, you'll obviously have a clearer interpretation.

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Re: The end is nigh.
« Reply #513 on: August 09, 2010, 01:51:21 PM »
Stupid questions piss me off too.

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Re: The end is nigh.
« Reply #514 on: August 09, 2010, 01:55:30 PM »
Stupid questions piss me off too.

"Maz, Barry Lose 'ere.
 I'm not at 'da game 'coz I'm workin or summfink. Do u fink 'da bloose cud finnish abuv 'da (stutters)v..v..v..villabastuds?"

Offline Mazrim

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Re: The end is nigh.
« Reply #515 on: August 09, 2010, 01:58:11 PM »
Oh shut up.

Offline Dave Clark Five

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Re: The end is nigh.
« Reply #516 on: August 09, 2010, 02:26:05 PM »


I honestly don't know what Villa and Spurs pay in player costs, I don't think you do either. I've only argued that there is no evidence that Villa pay less Spurs.

Maybe we will know if Ashley Young goes to Spurs. Isn't that all about who pays the most?

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Re: The end is nigh.
« Reply #517 on: August 09, 2010, 02:29:26 PM »
Well that's not going to happen.

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Re: The end is nigh.
« Reply #518 on: August 09, 2010, 03:42:08 PM »
^^^^^^

To be fair Bred_d, you needed to be there to realise why he and his fellow diners were so offended.

Everybody we have spoken to who was at the dinner were shocked by the venom in MoN's voice.

Seriously though, how offended can anybody really be by "Oh shut up" regardless of the measure of venom it's delivered with? 

My guess is that MON probably heard the same question about 50 times since the event and was thoroughly sick to death of hearing it.  I think it's a dumb ass question in any case and got the correct response given MON's explanation something that the questioner was all to well aware off.

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Re: The end is nigh.
« Reply #519 on: August 09, 2010, 03:49:35 PM »
football fans throw out insults like it's going out of fashion, yet one retort at a stupid question gets our backs up. In my opinion he got what he deserved.

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Re: The end is nigh.
« Reply #520 on: August 09, 2010, 04:01:54 PM »
You heard it here first!

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Re: The end is nigh.
« Reply #521 on: August 09, 2010, 04:08:35 PM »
Sometimes the most obvious answer is the right one.

Huddlestone
Lennon
Dawson
Bale
Naughton
Walker

All signed from lower league clubs.

Gomes
Pavlyuchenko
Modric
Dos Santos
Assou-Ekotto
Hutton

All signed from leagues outside of England.

A good chunk of that lot make up the first team, or are crucial squad members.

Could this have an impact on their wage bill being lower?

Only if you think they and their agents turn up at Spurs as bumbling peasants. Do you honestly believe that players like Dos Santos walked in from Barcelona and took a small wage simply because he was coming from a foreign league? Or that their wasn't a significant signing on fee paid to Modric out of the £16m+ that Spurs supposedly paid for him?

Even with your list of expensive foreigners and lower league players, i wouldn't be surprised if Spurs have also signed as many if not more PL players as we have in the last few seasons.

I honestly don't know what Villa and Spurs pay in player costs, I don't think you do either. I've only argued that there is no evidence that Villa pay less Spurs.

Well I know the reported costs re the respective staff costs. It also doesn't take a genius to work out that players wages make up the bulk of that. Unless you want to go the conspiracy theory route, which you apparently don't now. So progress, of sorts.

Tottenham (and quite frankly I'm bored of seeing that name, much less typing it) target their players from a wider selection pool than we do; lower leagues, Europe and occasionally further afield. The benefit of this is -as Monty pointed out- they can acquire a young player from Barcelona or Croatia and pay him less than a Nicky Shorey or Steve Sidwell.

If you limit yourself to the English topflight (or players who have been recently relegated from it) you pay a premium. And we've been paying a premium on the bulk of our signings since 2007.

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Re: The end is nigh.
« Reply #522 on: August 09, 2010, 04:12:45 PM »
You heard it here first!

I heard it lousy tabloids first and I'll be consistent with what I thought of their scoops too.

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Re: The end is nigh.
« Reply #523 on: August 09, 2010, 06:37:10 PM »
Well done to you DC5, you called this one right.
the End is nigh, has now come,

there were those who doubted, but you have been proved right,

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Re: The end is nigh.
« Reply #524 on: August 10, 2010, 01:07:59 AM »
DC5 - any chance you can do my Lottery numbers this week ?

 


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