The end is nigh.

[Dave Clark Five]

O'Neill is now out of favour with a high percentage of fans. I understand that he has a bad relationship with the press. His coaching staff, apart from reserves and youth, are useless. Time for him to go.

[Monty]

Might just be my favourite title to a thread ever.

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It is good. Also, is this the earliest anybody has called for a managers head in the season? We at least waited till Wigan had turned us over before we all panicked last term.

[Monty]

It is good. Also, is this the earliest anybody has called for a managers head in the season? We at least waited till Wigan had turned us over before we all panicked last term.

Pre-emptive reactions? Well, it's one idea.

[dave.woodhall]

It's also from someone who is out in Portugal, so has been listening to supporters for the past few days.

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It's also from someone who is out in Portugal, so has been listening to supporters for the past few days.

Yeah, supporters like my mates Ecker and Mozza from on here I'd imagine. These are men in need of prozac. They laughed at me on the tram in Vienna when I told him we’d put three past Liverpool.

[Toronto Villa]

It's also from someone who is out in Portugal, so has been listening to supporters for the past few days.

what was their reaction the day before I wonder?

I'm not saying there's not dissent, but it's hardly as if the fans who travelled on a pre-season piss up to Portugal represent any balanced sample on the day of defeat in a friendly versus a Champions League team that just won their league again.

[Villa'Zawg]

O'Neill is now out of favour with a high percentage of fans....

No he isn't.

Edit: would you like to poll it?

Edit: that's a ridiculously self-important thread title.

[dave.woodhall]

It's also from someone who is out in Portugal, so has been listening to supporters for the past few days.

what was their reaction the day before I wonder?

I'm not saying there's not dissent, but it's hardly as if the fans who travelled on a pre-season piss up to Portugal represent any balanced sample on the day of defeat in a friendly versus a Champions League team that just won their league again.

Just the ones who could be bothered to travel, which is usually quite important in deciding who 'real' fans are, when it suits.

[Toronto Villa]

It's also from someone who is out in Portugal, so has been listening to supporters for the past few days.

what was their reaction the day before I wonder?

I'm not saying there's not dissent, but it's hardly as if the fans who travelled on a pre-season piss up to Portugal represent any balanced sample on the day of defeat in a friendly versus a Champions League team that just won their league again.

Just the ones who could be bothered to travel, which is usually quite important in deciding who 'real' fans are, when it suits.

I'm not dismissing their "importance" for being able to travel to a pre-season friendly. I certainly didn't think you'd ever go down the "better fan" road, Dave because that's what it appears you're suggesting.

What I am disputing is that it represents any kind of true fan sample, or indeed a high percentage of Villa fans. There's absolutely no way of validating that except for the select group of supporters DC5 happened to speak to and shared coversation and opinions after a pre-season FRIENDLY loss to a far superior team.

[Dave Clark Five]

O'Neill is now out of favour with a high percentage of fans....

No he isn't.

Edit: would you like to poll it?

Edit: that's a ridiculously self-important thread title.

You know it's true.

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I'm not dismissing their "importance" for being able to travel to a pre-season friendly. I certainly didn't think you'd ever go down the "better fan" road, Dave because that's what it appears you're suggesting.

 He’s not, he’s being ironical innit. But I don’t think it really applies to you, as I doubt you’ve ever used it, with respect, given you obviously not being a tit and also living in Toronto. Although if you do follow The Villa home and away I will say you’re in the top one of dedicated Villa fans.

[Dave Clark Five]

Shall we just say that all fifteen at our table tonight dislike O'Neill. A small percentage cheered him. He is not popular.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

It's also from someone who is out in Portugal, so has been listening to supporters for the past few days.

what was their reaction the day before I wonder?

I'm not saying there's not dissent, but it's hardly as if the fans who travelled on a pre-season piss up to Portugal represent any balanced sample on the day of defeat in a friendly versus a Champions League team that just won their league again.

Again? They've won their league twice in the last 15 years.
I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss the opinion of fans that have been following the Villa home and away for the last 40 years.

[Toronto Villa]

I'm not dismissing their "importance" for being able to travel to a pre-season friendly. I certainly didn't think you'd ever go down the "better fan" road, Dave because that's what it appears you're suggesting.

 He’s not, he’s being ironical innit. But I don’t think it really applies to you, as I doubt you’ve ever used it, with respect, given you obviously not being a tit and also living in Toronto. Although if you do follow The Villa home and away I will say you’re in the top one of dedicated Villa fans.

I have tremendous respect for those fans who happen to travel with the club. I used to do it myself when I lived in Birmingham. I don't think for second though that their views or opinions are any more important than those who do not, or cannot travel. Which is why I'll contest the "high percentage" comment.

In any case, these things will play themselves out this season in my opinion. If the results aren't there, or the home gates begin to slide, then the writing will be on the wall. I happen to think this is a massive year for MON, and if certain things don't improve in certain areas then I think change is inevitable.