The Milner Novela... Final episode page 296

[citychris]

It is getting very boring this whole saga, but I am going to defend both players in this situation.
Firstly not once have I heard that Milner wants to leave or have a go at Villa for not letting him leave
Secondly, Ireland is a family man who is settled in Manchester (his eldest has only just started school last year)

The people who deserved to be booed is your chairman who wants the cash and Marwood for riding roughshed over one of "our own"

Before everyone shouts money it matters not-If you are a twat you are a twat no matter what you earn. When you are eaning astronomical wages 10 grand here and there does not make any difference.

[BannedUserIAT]

How do you figure our chairman needs booing? Seriously?
He came out in the off-season after hearing rumours that Milner was wanted and stated that Milner would be a Villa player for the forthcoming season. Mancini and Cock then engineered an unsettling of the player (let's give it a name shall we? We'll call it 'tapping up') promising him a hefty wage increase and the kind of glory that Man City have been proud of in the past. Oh, no, hang on. Well, they promised the kind of glory and medals that Gareth Barry went to your lot for. Oh, hang on there, too.

Well, they make a lot of promises your lot but one thing they CAN deliver on is filthy lucre. And a lot of it.

So explain to me in terms that a simpleton can undestand (cuz clearly I don't get it) how it is that OUR chairman deserves anything but applause for the way he's handled this? i.e. NOT in public and wringing every last penny of oil-money that your no-mark club flaunt in the most classless way imaginable?

Flaunt, yet cry about it when it's time to pay a bill. Like offering to buy Kaka for the cost of putting a man on Mars, giving Toure enough money to give a 3rd world county AAA+ ecomomic status and then cry foul when a player who's been with you since he was a lad, has served you well, has now been fucked over in favour of aforementioned journeymen, sticks his hand out and asks for his contract to be paid out. The people in charge of your club are wankers of the highest order. I look forward to watching Man Utd stuff your lot senseless. And that's something I never thought I'd come out with. Ever!

[LeeB]

Just about spot on there, Troy.

[garyfouroaks]

The people who deserved to be booed is your chairman who wants the cash and Marwood for riding roughshed over one of "our own"

No-one can question Randy's cash commitment to the Villa. If Leeds, West Ham and Pompey had worried a litle more about "the cash" they would not have encountered their recent predicaments.

[Ads]

The people who deserved to be booed is your chairman

Fucking hell Curly, we're not having that.

[OzVilla]

The people who deserved to be booed is your chairman

And that Sir, is where you let it be known to everyone that you had no idea what the feck we were talking about.

When it comes to having Chairmen with some class, professionalism and grace Lerner is as good as they come.  Considering the chancers that you lot have had to put up with down the years (you've just got a far richer version now by the way) it's hardly surprising that you can't recognise it when you see it.

[PaulWinch again]

The people who deserved to be booed is your chairman

Agreed, Randy has handled this correctly.

Fucking hell Curly, we're not having that.

[pablopicasso_10]

heaven forbid we have a chairman who doesnt allow our club to be walked all over!

the shock and horror of us following all the rules to the letter and trying to make it worthwhile us selling a player we dont want to lose so that it benefits us....

one thinks that the lottery win has gone to the chavs head...

[old man villa fan]

Sorry, I do not understand people saying that Ireland should back down on his claim for compensation for termination of his contract with Man City.

A few things for consideration:

• Just because he earns a very good wage shouldn't mean that he should have to accept reduction in his earnings because his employer wants to get rid of him.  He and his employer were both happy to sign a contract with certain conditions.  How would you feel if your employer said that he had found you another job but you would have to accept a considerable reduction
• I know contracts do not seem to mean much these days but if Man City get away with this, where will it end.  Take our situation with Heskey, if we told him we had an offer of £5m (don't laugh - I'm trying to keep a straight face myself)from some championship side but they were only going to pay him £10k a week.  If this was allowed to happen it would have a major knock on effect on players contracts and what they would want to sign for a new club.  The first thing would be a higher wage to counter the risk of being sold and then they would want a shorter contract.  Either of these would be good for the game.
• The amount of money Man City have should not affect the principle of the matter.
• Ireland has a contract whereby he is paid £60/£70k per week (not sure exactly) and reportedly £10k per appearance.  If he was to stay at Man City but was not included in the 25 man squad, Man City would be preventing him from being able to earn the extra £10k.  Surely, this would be braking the terms of his contract as it is different to not being selected to play because he is not playing well, something that he could rectify by playing better.  There could be many other players around the country that this applies to that may be on a play-pay basis.
• By not paying up the loss of earnings for the time left on his contract, Man City are expecting us to offer him a higher wage and thus, us getting less in effect for Milner and them paying less.
• Man City are treating their players that they do not want any more like s***. We know about Dunne and now Bellamy and Milner.  No doubt there are others.  So where are the PFA and the highest paid union leader in the country in all of this.  By the looks of it not protecting their members contracts.

I do not agree with players getting paid so much but I do believe that contracts should be honoured.  If a player wants to leave before his contract comes to an end, fair enough if the club holding his contract is adequately compensated, as we are being through the price we want for Milner.  People may say that I am living in a land of dreams but sooner or later we have got to get this game we all love into order, before it gets destroyed for good.

In my opinion (providing what I have read about Irelands contract is correct),  Man City should compensate Ireland for him accepting a reduced contract elsewhere.  If they do not pay him and Ireland wants higher wages or a signing on fee from us, we should insist on cash only deal because, although Ireland is a decent player, he should not be on a wage that matches our top earner, or therabouts.  If this means the deal breaks down, so be it and we keep Milner until at least January when he can try again and get a transfer.  I believe he is professional enough to give is all for us if this happened, provided it was explained who is to blame for it.

[BannedUserIAT]

Can't disagree with any of that, OMVF.

Your point 4 is interesting - about players earning a percentage of their wage on a pay-per-play contract - and I suspect that if anyone will become entangled in legal issues, it'll be Man City. Any excess players outside of that select 25 have zero chance of making anything from their play-bonus for at least a season. Not their fault....they were brought in to do a job, fulfilled that duty, but then found themselves behind in the pecking order not through any fault of their own but through the club buying a number of better players. Could get messy.

[PaulTheVillan]

Milner will stay.

Wait and see.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Well every novela has a twist at the end.

[usav]

Having seen both the Villa and Man City games today, I can honestly say I think Milner will be making a huge mistake going to City.    Yes they have bags of money and will probably buy themselves a champions league slot this season (although not on today's evidence), but Milner will not be heart and soul of it by any stretch.

Why would he leave a good team where he can shine to go to one where he will be a sub and bit-part player at best?

[ozzjim]

He will walk into their team

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Having seen both the Villa and Man City games today, I can honestly say I think Milner will be making a huge mistake going to City.    Yes they have bags of money and will probably buy themselves a champions league slot this season (although not on today's evidence), but Milner will not be heart and soul of it by any stretch.

Why would he leave a good team where he can shine to go to one where he will be a sub and bit-part player at best?

I was thinking something similar today. Imagine our dressing room after the game today, you can bet it was buzzing with excitment. Now try and imagine Man Citeh's. A bunch of mercenaries and prima-donnas that care little about the club.

Does James really want to step into that world?