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Offline PaulTheVillan

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Re: The Milner Novela
« Reply #4215 on: August 13, 2010, 08:56:14 AM »
If we get Ireland he'll be going straight in my Fantasy Football team.

Online Bent Neilsens Screamer

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Re: The Milner Novela
« Reply #4216 on: August 13, 2010, 09:04:36 AM »
If we get Ireland he'll be going straight in my Fantasy Football team.

He's already in mine. This move will happen.

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Re: The Milner Novela
« Reply #4217 on: August 13, 2010, 09:08:17 AM »
Ireland is absolutely correct in sticking out  for 2 million.  This is a business deal built on greed. Shitty are greedy to sign up  any one decent but want to turf out Ireland as part of the deal. Villa are sticking out for  about 28 million (18+ireland) Ireland has NOT asked to move. This is being done to him  and we are NOT going tp pay him the same wages as Shitty. He is right to  want that pot before he moves.

Offline Guy M

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Re: The Milner Novela
« Reply #4218 on: August 13, 2010, 09:25:12 AM »
I wonder if people would feel the same if it turned out that's why Luke Young's move to Liverpool fell through or if Heskey or Beye held out for a similar sum before agreeing to move?

Offline BannedUserIAT

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Re: The Milner Novela
« Reply #4219 on: August 13, 2010, 09:26:00 AM »
If he was entitled to the money, City would have to pay and there would be no argument. He isn't so City are refusing to pay what has been described as a "loyalty" bonus. It may be a drop in the ocean for City, but fast forward a couple of years and we want to get rid.

I wouldn't touch him with a fuckin' barge pole.

Hang on a sec. He's been at Man City since he was 15 or something like that. So that's 9 years. He's not asked to move but actually wants to stay and fight for a place. Man City are telling him to do one.

I think he's well within his rights to ask for a loyalty bonus (note the lack of inverted commas).
Trading players at massively inflated prices is a double edged sword. They have to expect to get sliced open once in a while.

Offline Concrete John

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Re: The Milner Novela
« Reply #4220 on: August 13, 2010, 09:28:22 AM »
I wonder if people would feel the same if it turned out that's why Luke Young's move to Liverpool fell through or if Heskey or Beye held out for a similar sum before agreeing to move?

No, they'd just blame martin O'Neill for signing them.

Offline BannedUserIAT

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Re: The Milner Novela
« Reply #4221 on: August 13, 2010, 09:30:12 AM »
I wonder if people would feel the same if it turned out that's why Luke Young's move to Liverpool fell through or if Heskey or Beye held out for a similar sum before agreeing to move?

Based on what definition of loyalty?
If it's based on the figure that Ireland is assumed to be asking for then Heskey would receive £330k and Beye £220k (and that's based on Ireland's pay which I doubt that they're getting).

Offline TimTheVillain

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Re: The Milner Novela
« Reply #4222 on: August 13, 2010, 09:30:22 AM »
I wonder if people would feel the same if it turned out that's why Luke Young's move to Liverpool fell through or if Heskey or Beye held out for a similar sum before agreeing to move?

However, all of those scenarios are unrealistic.

AVFC aren't waving wods of cash in the air either - Ireland is purely being businesslike about this.

Seriously, he's being told to go to live in Birmingham - to move to a club he hasn't chosen and on lower wages i would bet.

Ok, we aren't going to pay him £50k a year, but if it's (say) £50k a week, he would be taking a £15k a week drop from what I've read lately.

Please correct me those who know what Ireland is earning if I am over egging his wages at Citeh.


Offline stevenjos

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Re: The Milner Novela
« Reply #4223 on: August 13, 2010, 09:33:19 AM »
I wish it would be cleared up as to why he's going. If he is insisting on a move we should hear about a transfer request.

If he is been sold to cover the finances for this season (lets face it a new manager wont have time to shift some of the overpaid players) then we should know.

Other than that i cannot see why he's going.

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Re: The Milner Novela
« Reply #4224 on: August 13, 2010, 09:37:26 AM »
I wish it would be cleared up as to why he's going. If he is insisting on a move we should hear about a transfer request.

If he is been sold to cover the finances for this season (lets face it a new manager wont have time to shift some of the overpaid players) then we should know.

Other than that i cannot see why he's going.

Seriously, isn't the fact he's doubling his wages a bit of a clue?

These days players do not have to request a move, they just have to not object to it once their agent has engineered it on their instructions.
« Last Edit: August 13, 2010, 09:40:54 AM by John M »

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Re: The Milner Novela
« Reply #4225 on: August 13, 2010, 09:37:41 AM »
I wish it would be cleared up as to why he's going. If he is insisting on a move we should hear about a transfer request.

If he is been sold to cover the finances for this season (lets face it a new manager wont have time to shift some of the overpaid players) then we should know.

Other than that i cannot see why he's going.

I think a transfer request is moot when he's stated that he wants to go.
Randy has stated that Villa didn't want to sell Milner. That he is being sold is down to Man City making a ridiculous offer that we'd be stupid to refuse. Everything has it's price.

And if you can't see why Milner is going, then I can't help you.

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Re: The Milner Novela
« Reply #4226 on: August 13, 2010, 10:37:08 AM »
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"City have no intentions of backing down in the face of Irelands's demands," said BBC Radio 5 live correspondent Pat Murphy.

"They feel that too many clubs are trying to take advantage of their vast riches and that £2m is a ridiculous sum to dispense with a player who didn't feature much last season and is not in Roberto Mancini's future plans.

"City also believe that Ireland is simply not entitled to £2m to leave. If no compromise can be reached then the Milner deal is shelved for the time being.

"City have given no indication that they will go beyond the £20m they offered Villa in May, so the only deal on the table is £18m plus Stephen Ireland."
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Pay up or fuck off

« Last Edit: August 13, 2010, 10:39:53 AM by Phil from the upper holte »

Offline jonzy85

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Re: The Milner Novela
« Reply #4227 on: August 13, 2010, 10:41:00 AM »
Very similar to the Dunne situation last summer. Remember that only went through on the last day because Dunne was holding tight for money he felt he was due.

City will eventually cough up. Maybe not 2 million, but the deal will be done.

Anyone else shouting for Spurs on Saturday?

Offline Concrete John

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Re: The Milner Novela
« Reply #4228 on: August 13, 2010, 10:47:54 AM »
Man City are right in that paying a player £2m to leave a club is ludicrous.  But then is everything else they've done since taking over the club, so why not?

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Re: The Milner Novela
« Reply #4229 on: August 13, 2010, 10:53:46 AM »
Very similar to the Dunne situation last summer. Remember that only went through on the last day because Dunne was holding tight for money he felt he was due.

City will eventually cough up. Maybe not 2 million, but the deal will be done.

Anyone else shouting for Spurs on Saturday?

No.  I predict and hoping for a boring 0-0 draw, but SKY will actually dramatise it into Mega-Super-Duper-clash of the titans-Saturday total wankfest.......

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