The Milner Novela... Final episode page 296

[stevenjos]

and so we sit here tearing each other apart whilst the club remain quiet.

Its fairly simple isnt it?

Randy: "i want x million"

Man city: "we will only play Y Million"

Randy: "well thats not enough."


CASE. CLOSED.

[Concrete John]

Davies isn't looking like it was the best of deals now.

Regardless of the fee, Downing, Ash, McGeady, Albrighton - aren't these pretty much all the same type of player?

How many wingers do we need?

I'll give you Davies, but I think that's more circumstance than it is a lack of ability.

As for how many wingers, I'd say 4 so that we have a balanced squad with 2 players for every position.  Hang on a minute.....

[pauliewalnuts]

The concept of being able to swap sides renders the need for four wingers pretty redundant, I'd have thought.

Certainly four wingers of whom three cost ten million pounds or so.

[Risso]

The concept of being able to swap sides renders the need for four wingers pretty redundant, I'd have thought.

Certainly four wingers of whom three cost ten million pounds or so.

Don't forget Milner was signed as a winger.  If we buy McGeady that would be 4 wingers who cost £10m or over.  In the mean time, the most he's spent on a forward is £4.5m on Harewood.  Absolute madness.

[*shellac*]

In the mean time, the most he's spent on a forward is £4.5m on Harewood.  Absolute madness.

Correct.  Harewood for £4.5m = Absolute Madness.

[Concrete John]

Swapping sides during a game is a tactical thing.  Having two players for each position is an issue of squad depth.

As for having 4 over £10m, I think that's misleading as Milner should be discounted due to either a) he'll be playing central if he stays or b) he's going to go.  Let's not forget he tried for Zaki and RSC upfront, who would both be £10m+ strikers, so maybe it's not by choice we haven't spent heavily up top?  And if we had a winger comparable to Gabby's ability and age emerging through the squad we would have bought 1 less £10m winger, IMO!

[pauliewalnuts]

Ireland's staying in Manchester, apparently, so that's that option off the menu.

[Reuben]

Has nobody pointed out that novella has 2 l's yet?

[pauliewalnuts]

Swapping sides during a game is a tactical thing.  Having two players for each position is an issue of squad depth.

As for having 4 over £10m, I think that's misleading as Milner should be discounted due to either a) he'll be playing central if he stays or b) he's going to go.  Let's not forget he tried for Zaki and RSC upfront, who would both be £10m+ strikers, so maybe it's not by choice we haven't spent heavily up top?  And if we had a winger comparable to Gabby's ability and age emerging through the squad we would have bought 1 less £10m winger, IMO!

So, we may not have spent any money on decent strikers, but at least we tried?

Even ignoring Milner, three 10m pound wingers would be a bit excessive, surely?

[pauliewalnuts]

Has nobody pointed out that novella has 2 l's yet?

I edited it, then Kelly came up with some "it's Portugese" nonsense and changed it back.

[Legion]

Has nobody pointed out that novella has 2 l's yet?

In this context, one 'l' is the correct version.

[eastie]

im sure if milner is available in a year at £12m and in the last year of his contract , there would be more than just man city after him.

[Concrete John]

Swapping sides during a game is a tactical thing.  Having two players for each position is an issue of squad depth.

As for having 4 over £10m, I think that's misleading as Milner should be discounted due to either a) he'll be playing central if he stays or b) he's going to go.  Let's not forget he tried for Zaki and RSC upfront, who would both be £10m+ strikers, so maybe it's not by choice we haven't spent heavily up top?  And if we had a winger comparable to Gabby's ability and age emerging through the squad we would have bought 1 less £10m winger, IMO!

So, we may not have spent any money on decent strikers, but at least we tried?

Even ignoring Milner, three 10m pound wingers would be a bit excessive, surely?

How may do our competitors have?  Spurs had Lennon coming through, so similar to our striking situation with Gabby, plus Modric and Bentley.  Man City do and Everton don't.  Liverpool have that dutch lad who's name escapes me who was, plus Benayoun who wasn't and Kuyt who I'm not sure about.  Wing play is a large part of our game, so it would make sense a large part of our budget is spent there.

And besides, I'd be hoping to get Mc Geady for a lot less than £10m!

[Mazrim]

Well, you were making it sound like fact that we'd offered him the biggest contract ever offered to a player by Villa the other day, but I was referring to your exchange with Pete3206 a few pages back, which came down to you'd heard some stuff / read some stuff in the paper / interpreted what MON had said etc - ie exactly like the rest of us.

Its your opinion that I made it sound like fact. Although I think we did discuss a significant new contract with him, I didn't say it was a fact. Hawkeye was claiming it was a simple fact that if we dont sell Milner, we dont have money to spend. That's the difference.
The only places I've seen that claimed apart from on forums is idiots like James Nursey.

Re: My exchange with Pete3206 a few pages back. I explained fully my reasoning and used more than simply "heard some stuff / read some stuff in the paper / interpreted what MON had said etc". Pete was apparently satisfied with my reasoning too.

You chimed in claiming it was ironic that I was asking for any credible evidence that we need to sell Milner because there isnt any as I see it, whereas I've provided plenty of reasoning and evidence to the contrary. How is that ironic? It isnt really is it.

I dont really want to get bogged down in massive point by point quotathons and semantics, so I'll just ask (anybody) again and try and keep it to one simple point. Where is the evidence that we need to sell Milner or, if you like, that the club was/is encouraging it?

[Risso]

I dont really want to get bogged down in massive point by point quotathons and semantics, so I'll just ask (anybody) again and try and keep it to one simple point. Where is the evidence that we need to sell Milner or, if you like, that the club was/is encouraging it?

Somebody saying "it's a fact" is just a stronger way of saying "in my opinion" isn't it?  Of course it isn't a fact really.  There's no way of proving whether we need the money more than they need Milner or not.

My feeling is that we do though.