The Milner Novela... Final episode page 296

[TheSandman]

Why is everyone so sure Milner is moving for money? Why can't it be for footballing reasons?

He probably will play most of the matches because he is a good player, he probably will win silverware if he goes there because of the heavy investment and big nights in the Champions League can't be far away, just because he wants to better his career, why does he have to come in for so much abuse.

Yorke left, Barry left and Milner will leave, probably all for the same reason - namely they believe/believed that they will have a better chance of success elsewhere. Yorke DID, Barry and Milner probably will.

If we had got in two or three quality names this summer or last Jan, maybe Milner wouldn't be so sure he would have a better chance of success elsewhere. Is he really to blame or is our lack of ambition coming back to bite us?

its our lack of ambition, i have said on here many times that the total of our ambition is top 6 and some decent cup runs, sadly our supporters seem to accept this so expect more of the same

If you mean a lack of ambition within the club ownership then that's bollocks.

What else can Randy do? Sell the club to any of the Arab gazillionaires out there? He has invested heavily some might say too heavily to try to get us onto the greater level.

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An excellent summary Merv.

[Mister E]

Unfortunately, have we set the standard when we let them have Barry for £12m in order to get one over on Liverpool.

No I don't think so.
Barry's price of £12m was a result of us / him having wound down another year on his contract - since he was nearer to the end of the contract, his value dropped from the £18-20m that AV wanted for him at the original Liverpool bid.

As an aisde, wouldn't it be great if the Barcodes came in with a £30m bid for Milner which we accepted ... unlikely but rather delicious as one over Citeh.

[Merv]

Yeah. Look at what Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and Man Utd (and Spurs) have done so far in the transfer market... not much. Do they lack ambition?

It's City, wildly blazing away on a transfer trail of their own, who may everyone else look unambitious. But they're a unique case.

[villasjf]

Would everyone be so angry if he moved abroad like David Platt or our own legend Gordon Cowans, they were sad moments but the club moved on.

[MoetVillan]

At the end of the day, they are not fans like us.  To us, playing for Villa is the highest standard in our hearts, maybe not our heads.  And I find it hurtful that someone would consider playing for another team in preference to the mighty Villa.  I can understand it for financial or footballing reasons.  But god damn it, I dont have to like it.

[TheSandman]

Would everyone be so angry if he moved abroad like David Platt or our own legend Gordon Cowans, they were sad moments but the club moved on.

I think the issue is he's moving to a club who on paper offer the same as us apart from a load of extra pounds. If he moved to Man United like Yorke it would be less of a problem (though I admit there is a lot of lingering resentment from some; not me, there) as they offer a lot more than us sadly.

Now I'm too young to remember either Sid or spoon face and their departures so I don't know how fans reacted but I do know that in both cases Bari were relegated soon after their signings so not much of a step up for either.

[john e]

if you want a good laugh, just re read the first 6 pages of this thread,

Milners value was anything from 35mill up to 50 odd, and anything less we werer teling City,Utd etc to clear off,
if we sold it was 30 mill + Ireland+bellamy + another, and we should never be selling our best players, especially Miner who is 'one of us' and wont chase the money



nearly 200 pages later, and how times have changed, its get the deal done and move on, Milners a wanker for wanting to go,
we'l be stronger without him if we spend it wisely,

so much for the 'done deal' we were told about earlier in the thread, MON hasnt even spoken to him since before the world cup

what a load of bollox

[sfx412]

MON is spectacularly evasive about most things. So for him to publicly make the comments yesterday about Milner means he's 99%, if not 100%, clear that Milner wants to leave.

Couldn't be Mon trying to manipulate the situation to get rid so he can have more funds to waste, now that RL has him on a tight rein

[sfx412]

if you want a good laugh, just re read the first 6 pages of this thread,

Milners value was anything from 35mill up to 50 odd, and anything less we werer teling City,Utd etc to clear off,
if we sold it was 30 mill + Ireland+bellamy + another, and we should never be selling our best players, especially Miner who is 'one of us' and wont chase the money



nearly 200 pages later, and how times have changed, its get the deal done and move on, Milners a wanker for wanting to go,
we'l be stronger without him if we spend it wisely,

so much for the 'done deal' we were told about earlier in the thread, MON hasnt even spoken to him since before the world cup

what a load of bollox

Well said sir

Its not quite up to the Barry stupidity but its getting there.

[atomicjam]

Maybe Milner should start his own H&V thread to clear things up like Leon Knight on Brightons North Stand site:-

http://www.northstandchat.com.php5-10.dfw1-1.websitetestlink.com/showthread.php?t=179675

[TopDeck113]

Would everyone be so angry if he moved abroad like David Platt or our own legend Gordon Cowans, they were sad moments but the club moved on.

Now I'm too young to remember either Sid or spoon face and their departures so I don't know how fans reacted but I do know that in both cases Bari were relegated soon after their signings so not much of a step up for either.

When Sid left I was sad to see one of the Rotterdam Lions leave rather than particularly disappointed: at the time I felt we'd had the best from him (he'd not been the same player since coming back from his broken leg - but with hindsight (89-90) it may have been more the general malaise that surrounded Villa Park at the time). I was more concerned about the loss of Paul Rideout at the same time, who I thought we'd groomed well to become long-term Peter Withe replacement.  

As for Platt, it was inevitable after Italia 90 and the "big" move then was seen to be to Italy. With echoes of more recent sagas, we made him as a player and then he basically fucked us around for 12 months before pissing off.  On the plus side, the £5m we got for him was probably the equivalent now of £25m and BFR used it to build one of the best Villa sides of the last quarter of a century.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Why is everyone so sure Milner is moving for money? Why can't it be for footballing reasons?

Because we're Aston Villa supporters and the truth hurts. I still think he's a greedy bastard though.

[KevinGage]

Why is everyone so sure Milner is moving for money? Why can't it be for footballing reasons?

 

Probably because Citeh haven't won owt since the 1970's and -from a footballing perspective- can only offer him the glory of the Europa League next season.

That would be my guess.

[Slaphead]

Maybe Milner should start his own H&V thread to clear things up like Leon Knight on Brightons North Stand site:-

http://www.northstandchat.com.php5-10.dfw1-1.websitetestlink.com/showthread.php?t=179675

I have read every page and am now on page 20 thinking the whole time it was a wined up. Now on page 20 it's looking like it could be true... very interesting thread.