The Milner Novela... Final episode page 296

[adrenachrome]

What does it really matter though? It seems like an argument over semantics to me and while it may be interesting to know the truth, whether Milner told O’Neill back in May that he wanted out is irrelevant- as he was always going to leave for Citeh regardless.

You are surely right about the inevitability of his departure.

However, the campaign against MoN is gaining ground, on the internet at least, and so the issue is more than one of semantics.

[adrenachrome]

Ads is right in a way. Milner will go and MON is a dead man walking after tonight's revelations. this time next year we won't care much about either of them

Time for bed.

Larf!

[Macho Man Randy Savage]

What it sounds like to me is that Milner has expressed an interest in going to Man City but isn't going to force the issue, and Villa are starting to like the idea of making some money from selling him whilst claiming they don't want to sell. Could be wrong but I guess we will see.

[atomicjam]

Ads is right in a way. Milner will go and MON is a dead man walking after tonight's revelations. this time next year we won't care much about either of them

Time for bed.

Thank goodness. I will wait for the full story to come out before putting either Milner or MON in the firing line. That said one of them is trying to further Aston Viila and the other is joining the money. Milner can bugger off, he was always going to. MON needs to get the deal done, forget about trying to give the papers a headline and look after the rest of our players and those hopefully he will sign.

[Toronto Villa]

MON would be risking a lot if he's lying. Firstly, I thought Randy was meant to have been at that meeting, so basically he'd be making a liar out of him too. Second, if he's lying, then he'd be fucked with the fans and his current players. Players aren't going to want to play for a manager who might screw them in the media.

Something's not right here, and I'd be shocked if MON is lying about the situation.

[atomicjam]

MON would be risking a lot if he's lying. Firstly, I thought Randy was meant to have been at that meeting, so basically he'd be making a liar out of him too. Second, if he's lying, then he'd be fucked with the fans and his current players. Players aren't going to want to play for a manager who might screw them in the media.

Something's not right here, and I'd be shocked if MON is lying about the situation.

I agree. MON knows all about libel, he has been there, he knows the press and he knows what is risked by being outed by making stuff up. It seems to me more likely a believable story than a real one. Although the next few days will no doubt inform us all better.

[adrenachrome]

MON would be risking a lot if he's lying. Firstly, I thought Randy was meant to have been at that meeting, so basically he'd be making a liar out of him too. Second, if he's lying, then he'd be fucked with the fans and his current players. Players aren't going to want to play for a manager who might screw them in the media.

Something's not right here, and I'd be shocked if MON is lying about the situation.

You are right, TV. MoN chooses his words carefully, in this case too carefully.

What he has been reported as saying is that in the meeting Milner intimated that ha might like to go. In lawyer-speak,  the word intimated is somewhat ambiguous. If the context of the meeting was to get JM to commit to the club, and he remained unconvinced, that could be construed as intimating that he would leave.

From JMs point of view, you can see why he would be irritated that there are headlines reporting that he wants to go.

[dave.woodhall]

I'm starting to get beyond past caring who said what. Milner wants to go and Martin doesn't seem particularly keen to keep him.

[atomicjam]

And if Milner is so upset regarding the notion he wants to leave, then why not say something himself. These qoutes from friends, papers, hacks, sources...  Why not say he would stay if, he would go if... It all seems to me to be a bit Barry. I want my cake, but to look like the good guy while I eat it. I did say we need to wait for the facts but that last glass of wine kicked in!

[N'ZMAV]

24Million Pounds for Milner is worth taking, yes, he was good for us last season, but could we get better with that money? Yes. Is MON able to find that replacement? Sure, Ireland at City is as good as Milner.

On another point, How can Milner be so upset and really want to leave Villa? The place is paradise to what he was compared to at Newcastle, and if he thinks he'll be first choice every week at City then he's going to be sadly mistaken, he'll probably be sitting next to Mr Barry on City's bench next season. We've been as good for him as he has been for us, which was good, but not World Class.

These footballers really piss me off.

[SteveD]

Of course Milner won't put in a transfer request, in case he loses out on money due to him; so the game is played out via agents and media gossip. We all know City have effectively tapped him up and Milner has hardly been out and committed himself to Villa over the last few weeks, when he's had plenty of opportunity to do so.

I can't blame O'Neill for bringing things to a head - if he's going to leave let's not only get the best possible deal but get it over with quickly, and not let it drag on until transfer deadline day.

[avfcpg]

So what Milner saying?

"Do you want to stay? No"
"Do you want to go? No"

Brilliant, thanks for clearing that up.

End result is the same, he's off. The who said and why and what are all pretty irrelevant and tabloid stirring... Just get it done, get Ireland, a wad of cash, a stack of french porn and an amusing clock and move on...

[ROBBO]

If we get 24 million for Milner then the premiership really has gone crazy.
Good player yes but it's getting ridiculous now.

[avfcpg]

If we get 24 million for Milner then the premiership really has gone crazy.
Good player yes but it's getting ridiculous now.

It is. What did David Villa go for? £31 million? Just £7 million difference?

Milners a good player but not irreplaceable by any means. Am just sad that it's City that he going to.

Could turn out the same as the players that went to Chelsea. SWP, Parker, Sidwell, Bridge etc. I thought they were all very good players going in..looked different players coming out having bench warmed. Same goes for Barry.

[Monty]

So Milner's upset that MON said he wants to leave - why? MON didn't say "he's buggering off to the money, the treacherous scumbag". He's not said "he whined and whined for a megabucks move, the little shit", nor implied anything of the sort. He's quite simply said what we've pretty much all known for a while - Milner wants to go, and MON said nothing else.

Besides, £30m? Hilarious. They'll misuse him anyway, they don't know what he's good at. This stuff from Milner really doesn't put him in a good light, for me.