The Milner Novela... Final episode page 296

[pauliewalnuts]

Anyone posted the Guardian article yet?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jul/22/manchester-city-james-milner-aston-villa

Tempted to believe it tbh. Milner doesn't seem the type. MON is getting a bit of a reputation for pissing players off.

If that is true, then it really is pretty fucking disgraceful.

The 2 journos who wrote this are in New Yoik Citeh with Man Citehh and the only direct quotes are from MoN.

Work it out.

The Guardian is a decent source for Villa stories.

Only one of the journos is in New York.

Stuart James (the other one) is their midlands correspondent.

OK, let me put it another way.

What, would you say, has the chap in New York contributed to the piece, and what is his likely source?

What do you think Stuart James, their regular Villa reporter, has contributed to the piece, and what is his likely source?

I did also say "if that is true". If I'd read it as an Alan Nixon exclusive in the Mirror, I'd be less worried. Coming in the Graun, I'm more worried.

[pauliewalnuts]

I’m saying that what differences does it make whether a contract was talked about, offered, rejected or otherwise? Once Citeh bid, the whole thing became inevitable, Milner was always going to go, as the only players saying no to Man City are those that are already there, such as Bellamy.

The end result might be inevitable, but I'd prefer it if the manager didn't tell the press Milner had told us he wanted to leave at the end of the season, and if he didn't say we'd offered him a new contract if, in fact, that wasn't actually true.

I can live with Milner leaving. It worries me a bit if the suggestion is that our manager is telling porkies about what happened.

If we're going to sell him because we think it is inevitable he will go, or because we want to sell him, just say it. Or at least don't paint a picture to the contrary.

[eastie]

I suppose it tarnishes milners relationship with the fans and if he didn't ask for a move he's entitled to say so- either way he's going to go.

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Milner isn't being forced out. He wants to go and we'd quite like the cash.

It doesn't matter whether the article is true or otherwise, he'll still go and he'll still get booed at B6.

[adrenachrome]

Anyone posted the Guardian article yet?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jul/22/manchester-city-james-milner-aston-villa

Tempted to believe it tbh. Milner doesn't seem the type. MON is getting a bit of a reputation for pissing players off.

If that is true, then it really is pretty fucking disgraceful.

The 2 journos who wrote this are in New Yoik Citeh with Man Citehh and the only direct quotes are from MoN.

Work it out.

The Guardian is a decent source for Villa stories.

Only one of the journos is in New York.

Stuart James (the other one) is their midlands correspondent.

OK, let me put it another way.

What, would you say, has the chap in New York contributed to the piece, and what is his likely source?

What do you think Stuart James, their regular Villa reporter, has contributed to the piece, and what is his likely source?

OK, never mind the source. What has the journo, based in NY with Man C, contributed to the article?

Stuart James may be getting info from the club or Milner, but all of the quotes from MoN have been on the net earlier today from SSN.

[tonyh]

So Milner wants to leave and therefore there is no point in him staying at AVFC.

Therefore we want the best deal for the Club

If he is not sold then he can have a stretch in the Dinky Doos

[tonyh]

So Milner wants to leave and therefore there is no point in him staying at AVFC.

Therefore we want the best deal for the Club

If he is not sold then he can have a stretch in the Dinky Doos

[Greg N'Ash]

Same Milner is furious story in Mail



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1297001/Milner-chaos-James-asked-says-ONeill--player-says-thats-true-Man-City-make-final-24m-bid.html

[Slaphead]

Maybe MON want's to look good by selling our best player. If Milner asks to leave then MON looks the good guy, no use keeping a player that does not want to be here and will go for cheaper in a few years. If MON wants to cash in on Milner then he will look the bad one and make us look like a selling club.

And I suspect you're spot on.

I know who I would believe if it's one against the other.

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What does it really matter though? It seems like an argument over semantics to me and while it may be interesting to know the truth, whether Milner told O’Neill back in May that he wanted out is irrelevant- as he was always going to leave for Citeh regardless.

[Slaphead]

It matters so we know what reception to give Milner, if he has been forced out then we can't exactly hate the guy.

[Whiney MacWhineface]

It matters in as much as if O'Neill is being loose or just plain misleading with the truth then that's not a reputation a Manager hoping to attract top players needs to have.

Players need to trust their Manager. I have no idea who's telling the truth here, but what is important is what is perceived to be the truth. Mud sticks.

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It matters so we know what reception to give Milner, if he has been forced out then we can't exactly hate the guy.

We want the money and he wants to go.

He’s in an opposition shirt and he’s not a Villa legend, therefore you can boo him all you like.

[villa for life]

It's all politics.

1)Mancini comes out and says he can "play the waiting game and won't pay over the odds for players"

2)Villa get worried that Man City won't buy and Milner won't sign a new contract. He will enter the penultimate year of his contract and his transfer value will therefore be halved.

3) Mon makes a statement that "Milner wants to leave" in the hope that another club might make an offer if Citeh don't want to go much above 20 million.

And the semantics of it...Mon can claim Milner wants to leave because he is not willing to sign a new contract and Milner can claim he doesn't want to leave because he hasn't put in a transfer request. Each party is just playing with words.

[Greg N'Ash]

Ads is right in a way. Milner will go and MON is a dead man walking after tonight's revelations. this time next year we won't care much about either of them

Time for bed.