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Offline garyshawsknee

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« Reply #2670 on: July 22, 2010, 06:45:22 PM »
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Quote from: "The Situation"


I have not once said we have better chance of success than Citeh, I pointed they'll just eventually self implode if they keep failing to qualify for Champions League.


I remember much the same being said about Chelsea when Abramovich arrived, and let's face it, Abramovich is a piss covered tramp when compared with the money Man City's owners have. They will spend and keep on spending until they win trophies, they may implode after that if they get bored, but meanwhile they will just keep on spending.


 They had already made the Champions league though,and had a pretty good spine of the team. i can honestly say,out of all the players City have bought the last couple of years,Tevez,Adam Johnson,Silva would be the only one's I want here.

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« Reply #2671 on: July 22, 2010, 06:49:54 PM »
Quote from: "Dave Cooper"
Quote from: "The Situation"


I have not once said we have better chance of success than Citeh, I pointed they'll just eventually self implode if they keep failing to qualify for Champions League.


I remember much the same being said about Chelsea when Abramovich arrived, and let's face it, Abramovich is a piss covered tramp when compared with the money Man City's owners have. They will spend and keep on spending until they win trophies, they may implode after that if they get bored, but meanwhile they will just keep on spending.

Yeah, but when Abramovich bought Chavski they were atleast - fair to say a decent team already who finished in a European spot most years. Man City have always been a nothing team, the club has always just been known as 'that other team from Manchester' (a bit like us and small heath) with fans always bringing inflatable bananas to away matches.

It's quite hilarious now that because Citeh have an influx of glory hunting supporters they're trying to disasscoiate themselves with the inflatable banana fans and are trying to start this new elitist Chavski type of fans.

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« Reply #2672 on: July 22, 2010, 06:58:01 PM »
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We're in trouble if citeh string us out till mid august like they did with everton last season. He's going,and we need to use the opportunity of significant funds to get in 2 or 3 to replace him.

If City drag it on then the nearer we get to the deadline,the higher Milners worth is to AVFC.

It is common in this day & age for a battle of wits to take place within transfer dealings-our stance with Liverpool 2 years ago shows we will not be pushed around & hopefully we will be as resolute over Milner.

Quite often,one signing triggers a whole sequence of deals & this could well be the case this time around-we are in the driving seat.Sadly for Mr Milner,he is no Kaka or Villa so if City want to play hardball over a deal,theres a good chance it will be this one.


That's all very well, but according to an article in the Independent right at the very beginning of this saga, and which I posted here, sources at Man City said they were confident of getting Milner, but did not think it would happen until very late in the transfer window.

It is not stretching things too far to see that they will be quite happy to let this drag on as long as possible before coughing up the necessary dosh as it will fuck us, one of their rivals,  big time. The Liverpool/Barry business is not a good analogy because they were relatively cash strapped.

Looking at it this way, the question is how valuable each passing week is. That is, suppose we get an extra 5 million  by waiting until  5 days before the deadline closes; what would be the opportunity cost in terms of possible transfers in?

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« Reply #2673 on: July 22, 2010, 06:59:51 PM »
Quote from: "Dave Cooper"
Quote from: "The Situation"


I have not once said we have better chance of success than Citeh, I pointed they'll just eventually self implode if they keep failing to qualify for Champions League.


I remember much the same being said about Chelsea when Abramovich arrived, and let's face it, Abramovich is a piss covered tramp when compared with the money Man City's owners have. They will spend and keep on spending until they win trophies, they may implode after that if they get bored, but meanwhile they will just keep on spending.


The key for Abramovich was appointing Mourinho, to date Mancini has done nothing to suggest he's in that class.

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« Reply #2674 on: July 22, 2010, 07:04:43 PM »
Yes, I know all that, but now they have so much money that all normal football thinking goes out of the window. If we are REALLY lucky then Man City will fail to get into the Chumps League this season and the owners will get bored and throw their cash at something else, but in all likelihood they will just carry on buying everything until they win lots of stuff.

Man City are not just rich enough to buy good players in the hope they gel, they are also clever enough to know that dangling their riches in front of the better players from their rivals will ensure they have less challengers for that fourth spot.

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« Reply #2675 on: July 22, 2010, 07:10:55 PM »
I've been thinking about changes to the transfer rules would make everything more equal;
1st: January transfer window is no more
2nd: teams can only sign x3 players per year from other clubs and sell only x3

This would place more emphasis on managing a team and also would stop all these oil barrans just buying everyone who plays well for 6montjs from their rivals!

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« Reply #2676 on: July 22, 2010, 07:12:45 PM »
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Yes, I know all that, but now they have so much money that all normal football thinking goes out of the window. If we are REALLY lucky then Man City will fail to get into the Chumps League this season and the owners will get bored and throw their cash at something else, but in all likelihood they will just carry on buying everything until they win lots of stuff.

Man City are not just rich enough to buy good players in the hope they gel, they are also clever enough to know that dangling their riches in front of the better players from their rivals will ensure they have less challengers for that fourth spot.


Perhaps, not so clever as I think giving us £25-30m will make us stronger.

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« Reply #2677 on: July 22, 2010, 07:18:27 PM »
football is well and truly fucked...

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« Reply #2678 on: July 22, 2010, 07:21:10 PM »
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The key for Abramovich was appointing Mourinho, to date Mancini has done nothing to suggest he's in that class.


He's not as good as Mourinho maybe, but three successive Serie A titles isn't the mark of a shit manager.

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« Reply #2679 on: July 22, 2010, 07:23:09 PM »
My view is for any player if they don't want to be with us, they can fuck off. I'm very disappointed by him. I'm also concerned by this sell to buy business.

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« Reply #2680 on: July 22, 2010, 07:23:21 PM »
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football is well and truly fucked...



What he said ^

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« Reply #2681 on: July 22, 2010, 07:25:01 PM »
Anybody else think Citeh are doing an Everton on us.Destabilising the club resulting in a shit start to the season.They will sign Milner,but they probably don't even want him.

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« Reply #2682 on: July 22, 2010, 07:25:11 PM »
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Quote from: "pablopicasso_10"
football is well and truly fucked...



What he said ^


What's your new username going to be?

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« Reply #2683 on: July 22, 2010, 07:25:20 PM »
We did not get as far as an offer to Milner, his agent made it clear that they were not interested in extending or improving his contract.
City know they will get their man so they are in no rush, but it leaves us in the shit replacing him because we won't do so until he moves on even though we know he will be going there.

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« Reply #2684 on: July 22, 2010, 07:29:12 PM »
Quote from: "Chris Smith"
Quote from: "Dave Cooper"
Yes, I know all that, but now they have so much money that all normal football thinking goes out of the window. If we are REALLY lucky then Man City will fail to get into the Chumps League this season and the owners will get bored and throw their cash at something else, but in all likelihood they will just carry on buying everything until they win lots of stuff.

Man City are not just rich enough to buy good players in the hope they gel, they are also clever enough to know that dangling their riches in front of the better players from their rivals will ensure they have less challengers for that fourth spot.


Perhaps, not so clever as I think giving us £25-30m will make us stronger.


Well we don't know that we'll get £25-30 million for a start, and when a player starts the whole "I want to leave" thing the price can drop (and yes I know about Barry and Liverpool!).
The thing is, will £25-30 million make us stronger than Man City, Spurs and (maybe) Arsenal? Not forgetting that the first thing we have to do with that £25-30 million is replace one of our best midfielders?

 


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