The Milner Novela... Final episode page 296

[SPENTFORCE]

Ash's time will come. He's barely had a sniff so far and after this world cup (based on the two games so far) SWP and Lennon should both be retired

That said. Anyone over 28 should be too. If we're to build towards the next euro championships and the 2014 world cup we should be doing it with a whole new side who can gel together for that whole build up

[Chris Smith]

Ash's time will come. He's barely had a sniff so far and after this world cup (based on the two games so far) SWP and Lennon should both be retired

That said. Anyone over 28 should be too. If we're to build towards the next euro championships and the 2014 world cup we should be doing it with a whole new side who can gel together for that whole build up

Problem is we're pretty much straight into qualifying for the Euros after the World Cup so while I agree there has to be some new blood you can't throw away the baby with the bathwater.

[Concrete John]

It needs to be a gradual process.  England have a number of players at or approaching 30, and these are some of the first names on the team sheet - Gerrard, Lampard, Ferdinand, Ashley Cole, Terry and James or Beckham won't make another tournament either.  The manager needs to pick about half of these in the first post WC game to allow for new blood and phase in a transition.

The future side they should be thinking about is something like:-
Hart
Johnson-Dawson-the Bolton Defender-Baines
Lennon-Huddlestone-Milner-Young
Gabby-Rooney

I may be biased with the Villa players, but I think you can see the point I'm trying to make!

[pedro25]

I think Rodwell will become a very important player for England in the coming years, he looks incredibly assured on the ball.  I think him and Milner would be a perfect balance in the midfield.  We lack balance and try to shoehorn in the star turns somewhere into the 11.  I notice Spain last night were quite happy to leave Iniesta and Silva out completely and only let Fabregas have a fleeting sub appearance as Busquets and Navas, although not such star names, gave a far better balance to the side.

[Merv]

We lack balance and try to shoehorn in the star turns somewhere into the 11.

Yes. I was hoping Capello would be the exception here, but it seems he's fallen into the same trap as his predecessors (Keegan, SGE, SMcClaren especially).

[SPENTFORCE]

Just out of interest, here's the players over 30 already

James (39)
Green (30)
Upson (31)
Carragher (32)
Gerrard (30)
Lampard (32)
Heskey (32)

and these will be by 2012 when the next Euro Championships come around

A Cole
Terry
Warnock
King
J Cole
Barry
Crouch

and Wright Phillips / Carrick very close


Thats a HUGE ammount of golden (well not so golden) oldies to be pinning future hopes on. I really think after this World Cup (which lets face it we could still technically go on and win) its time for a clean sweep and new start

Its not like we've had any success as a reason to hang onto (even if we hope) any of them. They've all had a decent run, and like Beckham before they have not contributed in getting us anywhere as a national side

[adrenachrome]

milner was shite, off the pace and a disaster, for whatever reason, to suggest he should be picked ahead of all the alternatives is idiocy even for here, unless of course he's shown he's fully recovered himself back to genuis best and none on here will know that.

As he represents Mon's late summer budget I hope he isn't given the chance to show again how poorly he was in the first game.

Mrs Overall strikes again.

Nice one Malcy, let's have another one!

[Captain Trips]

milner was shite, off the pace and a disaster, for whatever reason, to suggest he should be picked ahead of all the alternatives is idiocy even for here, unless of course he's shown he's fully recovered himself back to genuis best and none on here will know that.

As he represents Mon's late summer budget I hope he isn't given the chance to show again how poorly he was in the first game.

Mrs Overall strikes again.

Nice one Malcy, let's have another one!

and close to MOTM in this one. He'd trained for 1 hour in 4 days prior to the USA game. That's the reason he was lacklustre.

[OldUser]

Baffles me why anyone takes Mrs Overall seriously in the first place.

[Percy McCarthy]

Baffles me why anyone takes Mrs Overall seriously in the first place.

Especially himself. He is an absolute fucking clown. I especially like his use of the word 'idiocy' in the above post referring, amazingly, to other posters!

[Percy McCarthy]

milner was shite, off the pace and a disaster, for whatever reason, to suggest he should be picked ahead of all the alternatives is idiocy even for here, unless of course he's shown he's fully recovered himself back to genuis best and none on here will know that.

As he represents Mon's late summer budget I hope he isn't given the chance to show again how poorly he was in the first game.

Mrs Overall strikes again.

Nice one Malcy, let's have another one!

close to MOTM in this one. He'd trained for 1 hour in 4 days prior to the USA game. That's the reason he was lacklustre.

It wasn't even close. He was, by some distance, the best player on the pitch. Proof, as if it were needed, that Malcolm Overall knows very little about football or footballers.

[BannedUserIAT]

Ian, when you're at the zoo and the monkey goes a bit mental or starts wanking-off or playing with it's own arse, people will look, stare and laugh.

[Mazrim]

Especially when the monkey starts calling those watching primitive before going back to drinking his own piss.

[Brend'Watkins]

Slightly off topic, when was the last time anybody went to a zoo?

It must have been 20 years ago for me, I don't see myself ever going to one again.

[ozzjim]

Last year, Berlin. And indeed, it will be this year, to the other one in Berlin. Long way to go, but they have good Zoos I believe!

And I must add, they are keen on keeping Gibbon numbers to a minimum in the German Zoo world, which enhances any visit to their zoos.