The Milner Novela... Final episode page 296

[SPENTFORCE]

I'm not aware that Liverpool went to 'anything' for Barry. Where did you hear that?

[Concrete John]

If I'm honest it was just the paper speculation/'inside knowledge', but it was widely reported they offered a a £10m package of exchange players originally and then came back with at least one improved offer, but Martin stuck to his £18m valuation.

[PaulTheVillan]

I'm not aware that Liverpool went to 'anything' for Barry. Where did you hear that?

I thought they bid £15m for Barry?

[LeeB]

I'm not aware that Liverpool went to 'anything' for Barry. Where did you hear that?

I thought they bid £15m for Barry?

I thought it was more like £12m

[JUAN PABLO]

If he plays like that again.. He wont be going nowhere

[peter w]

He'll get a subs runout when needed - probably Slovenia if we're 2 up or something. capello is a big fan so will be loathe to let him fetser and the memories of his World Cup being a lack of match fitness 30 minutes.

oh, and I'd still sell. I really don't like our balance at the moment and having Milner in the middle with Petrov is a big problem. Having 2 wingers doesn't work in the 4-4-2 also.

[mcgrath_85]

If I'm honest it was just the paper speculation/'inside knowledge', but it was widely reported they offered a a £10m package of exchange players originally and then came back with at least one improved offer, but Martin stuck to his £18m valuation.

Liverpool offered a "mish mash" of players according to Martin. They no way bid 17 million. The main reason being becuase they didn't have it.

[Concrete John]

If I'm honest it was just the paper speculation/'inside knowledge', but it was widely reported they offered a a £10m package of exchange players originally and then came back with at least one improved offer, but Martin stuck to his £18m valuation.

Liverpool offered a "mish mash" of players according to Martin. They no way bid 17 million. The main reason being becuase they didn't have it.

The mish mash was the first bid, but they bid come back with at least one improved offer after that.

[andyh]

Anyone know why he didn't take the penalty at Arsenal ?

[SPENTFORCE]

If Liverpool had made this alleged bit they'd have got him. The fact they couldnt even match City's 12m bid says it all

If we get 30m offered for Milner and he 'wants' to go fair enough

If he's happy to stay, sign a new deal and get a pay rise even better

[Concrete John]

If Liverpool had made this alleged bit they'd have got him. The fact they couldnt even match City's 12m bid says it all

If we get 30m offered for Milner and he 'wants' to go fair enough

If he's happy to stay, sign a new deal and get a pay rise even better

I think you're missing the point I was making:-

We got £12m for Barry in summer 09, but during summer 08 when Liverpool first bid, we wanted £18m.  They did not meet this, but did offer something approaching it, although we can only speculate exactly how far they went.  Whatever they did bid, lets say £15m for arguments sake, we effectively 'lost' the difference between that and the £12m he eventually went for, with the drop being due to him having only one year left as opposed to two.

If our valuation of Milner is the reported £30m, then applying the same scale we'd be after £20m next summer unless he signs a new contract.  Realistically, we won't get £20m in summer 2011 for him, so should Man City come back with an improved offer saying no could cost us over £10m.

Although we could comfortably absorb the circa £3m loss on Barry, we can't do with Milner as due to the larger asking price, there will be a larger drop in his value.  So if he doesn't sign a new contract, he should be sold!

[Chris Smith]

If Liverpool had made this alleged bit they'd have got him. The fact they couldnt even match City's 12m bid says it all

That fat fucker didn't give them time to match their bid, he signed with indecent haste as soon as he saw all those zeros. Beitez subsequently said that they had still been interested and that they then paid £20m for Aquilani suggest that they'd have found the money.

[peter w]

If Liverpool had made this alleged bit they'd have got him. The fact they couldnt even match City's 12m bid says it all

If we get 30m offered for Milner and he 'wants' to go fair enough

If he's happy to stay, sign a new deal and get a pay rise even better

I think you're missing the point I was making:-

We got £12m for Barry in summer 09, but during summer 08 when Liverpool first bid, we wanted £18m.  They did not meet this, but did offer something approaching it, although we can only speculate exactly how far they went.  Whatever they did bid, lets say £15m for arguments sake, we effectively 'lost' the difference between that and the £12m he eventually went for, with the drop being due to him having only one year left as opposed to two.

If our valuation of Milner is the reported £30m, then applying the same scale we'd be after £20m next summer unless he signs a new contract.  Realistically, we won't get £20m in summer 2011 for him, so should Man City come back with an improved offer saying no could cost us over £10m.

Although we could comfortably absorb the circa £3m loss on Barry, we can't do with Milner as due to the larger asking price, there will be a larger drop in his value.  So if he doesn't sign a new contract, he should be sold!

The point I made when this first all kicked off...

[Mazrim]

Whether or not he should be sold aside, we dont need to cash in. Its not money we're depending on. Where has that notion come from?

[peter w]

Its not that we need to ash in, but you have to weigh up the player against the profit. Even man U did that with Ronaldo to Real for £80m (to a degree). If we get silly money for Milner then I think we should take it and build the side again.

The other point is that there is a real debate going on about just how good Milner is. Very good, yes, but that's just for one season and there are many who aren't sure he'll get that much better than where he is now to the point that he's in an all time villa XI.