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Offline Jane

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« Reply #195 on: May 20, 2010, 08:36:07 AM »
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If he does go you do have to think what's the point?


My thoughts exactly.

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« Reply #196 on: May 20, 2010, 08:39:51 AM »
As Capello said, he is the future of the England team. Letting him go for even 30 million at this stage would be foolish.
Give it a year and he will be a regular, two years I would guess he could very well be captain.

But as we know in football, if he wants to go he will go.

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« Reply #197 on: May 20, 2010, 08:41:02 AM »
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If he does go you do have to think what's the point?


My thoughts exactly.


Ditto, going all the way back to Yorkie when he left. It just hurts to think about it.

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« Reply #198 on: May 20, 2010, 08:42:30 AM »
I don't think it's going to happen. Villa are, from what's been said from Lerner, adamant that he is currently not for sale, and the only way I can see it happening is if they come in with a ludicrous offer - £35m plus.  I think Milner will not agitate for a move, this summer at least.

For what it's worth, I would hate to lose him. He may not be the most technically proficient player we have but he's up there, and his honesty and energy on the pitch is invaluable. I honestly think he could be talismanic for us in a few years' time. If he's still here that is.

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« Reply #199 on: May 20, 2010, 08:47:10 AM »
Don't sell.

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« Reply #200 on: May 20, 2010, 08:55:10 AM »
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If he does go you do have to think what's the point?


My thoughts exactly.


I really don't get this at all.

It's always been the same for as long as I've been watching football.  Were ManU fans saying the same when Ronaldo went last summer?  I don't think so.  

Every player has a price.  Every player can be bought if a ridiculous fee is offered.  If City come back with a ridiculous fee for Milner then it might be right to sell him.  He's a good player but he's not anywhere near the greatest midfielder in the world at the moment as much as we think of him.

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« Reply #201 on: May 20, 2010, 08:59:41 AM »
the idea that swapping Milner for Man citehs casts offs, particularly those that have some reputational issues and are on stupid money is not a sound idea. You really think Ireland Richards and SWP will come and play out of thier skins for us, you think that thier wages can be matched by Villa without causing dressing room disruption. If we are to lose Jimy then it meeds to be cash and lots of it, i think £30mil will clinch the deal.
The problem would be where do we go from here, if we cant keep our best players then top 10 mediocrity it will be.
This also reinforces the view that many of us had that faint progress under MON would not be enough to enable us to become a top 4 team, we have lost that opportunity now because we /he did not show enough intent ambition and flexibility.

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« Reply #202 on: May 20, 2010, 09:01:52 AM »
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the idea that swapping Milner for Man citehs casts offs, particularly those that have some reputational issues and are on stupid money is not a sound idea. You really think Ireland Richards and SWP will come and play out of thier skins for us, you think that thier wages can be matched by Villa without causing dressing room disruption. If we are to lose Jimy then it meeds to be cash and lots of it, i think £30mil will clinch the deal.
The problem would be where do we go from here, if we cant keep our best players then top 10 mediocrity it will be.
This also reinforces the view that many of us had that faint progress under MON would not be enough to enable us to become a top 4 team, we have lost that opportunity now because we /he did not show enough intent ambition and flexibility.



but you still have the problem of spending the 30 mill, if thats what we get,
 
'cash' and lots of it, doesnt win anything, its the way its spent

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« Reply #203 on: May 20, 2010, 09:04:25 AM »
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This also reinforces the view that many of us had that faint progress under MON would not be enough to enable us to become a top 4 team, we have lost that opportunity now because we /he did not show enough intent ambition and flexibility.


I have to say, there's a certain amount of truth in this.

Ashley Young will now probably be thinking he's been here three years and finished sixth three times.

I doubt he'll be thinking of it in terms of two points more than last season = improvement, he'll be thinking "not in the Champions League".

Last year had Tottenham come in for him, I'd have betted he'd stay. This year if they come in for him, I think he'd be off.

With Man City the money is the distorting factor, not the CL football, but the fact remains that had we finished in the top four and been able to keep our best players, we'd be in a much better position to keep him.

If Milner has to go, I hope it is to Man United. Watching Man City buy our best midfielder two years running would really make me evaluate whether there's really that much point in investing so much emotionally and financially in football.

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« Reply #204 on: May 20, 2010, 09:12:42 AM »
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Quote from: "hawkeye"
the idea that swapping Milner for Man citehs casts offs, particularly those that have some reputational issues and are on stupid money is not a sound idea. You really think Ireland Richards and SWP will come and play out of thier skins for us, you think that thier wages can be matched by Villa without causing dressing room disruption. If we are to lose Jimy then it meeds to be cash and lots of it, i think £30mil will clinch the deal.
The problem would be where do we go from here, if we cant keep our best players then top 10 mediocrity it will be.
This also reinforces the view that many of us had that faint progress under MON would not be enough to enable us to become a top 4 team, we have lost that opportunity now because we /he did not show enough intent ambition and flexibility.



but you still have the problem of spending the 30 mill, if thats what we get,
 
'cash' and lots of it, doesnt win anything, its the way its spent
i agree mate, and MON will try and buy Downings twin brother, it dosent matter because if we are now a selling club it wont matter who we buy

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« Reply #205 on: May 20, 2010, 09:16:41 AM »
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Quote from: "hawkeye"
This also reinforces the view that many of us had that faint progress under MON would not be enough to enable us to become a top 4 team, we have lost that opportunity now because we /he did not show enough intent ambition and flexibility.


I have to say, there's a certain amount of truth in this.

Ashley Young will now probably be thinking he's been here three years and finished sixth three times.

I doubt he'll be thinking of it in terms of two points more than last season = improvement, he'll be thinking "not in the Champions League".

Last year had Tottenham come in for him, I'd have betted he'd stay. This year if they come in for him, I think he'd be off.

With Man City the money is the distorting factor, not the CL football, but the fact remains that had we finished in the top four and been able to keep our best players, we'd be in a much better position to keep him.

If Milner has to go, I hope it is to Man United. Watching Man City buy our best midfielder two years running would really make me evaluate whether there's really that much point in investing so much emotionally and financially in football.
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but how do you get out of this addicted club though ?
do you withdraw slowly, or a straight pull out risking cold turkey ?

maybe they should start FCA [football club anonymous]

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« Reply #206 on: May 20, 2010, 09:17:42 AM »
It wouldn't be the end of the world if we got a decent fee, £35 mill plus.  Spurs sold their 3 best players in the last couple of years, reinvested wisely and are now in the Champions League.  I wouldn't want our transfer budget plus the 30 mill from Milner risked on a couple of flashy foreign names or 3/4 Man City rejects.  I think it should be invested in our future, we should play a different game, put lots of cash into our academy and hover up the good young talent in the lower leagues and nurture them.  More signings like Delph for me please, hungry, young English players.

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« Reply #207 on: May 20, 2010, 09:18:32 AM »
I would consider £25m + Ireland and Bellamy.

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« Reply #208 on: May 20, 2010, 09:21:53 AM »
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It wouldn't be the end of the world if we got a decent fee, £35 mill plus.  Spurs sold their 3 best players in the last couple of years, reinvested wisely and are now in the Champions League.  I wouldn't want our transfer budget plus the 30 mill from Milner risked on a couple of flashy foreign names or 3/4 Man City rejects.  I think it should be invested in our future, we should play a different game, put lots of cash into our academy and hover up the good young talent in the lower leagues and nurture them.  More signings like Delph for me please, hungry, young English players.


There is the knub !!!

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« Reply #209 on: May 20, 2010, 09:22:44 AM »
I’ve only read a few of the comments on here and the story on the BBC, it says the Villa will open contract negotiations after the WC, would it not be better to do that before the tournament starts if we are serious about keeping him?

 


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