The Milner Novela... Final episode page 296

[peter w]

I honestly can't see the big negative problem here. A player goes, albeit a good one, we get money and keep rebuilding until its right. I thought the balance of the team looked wrong last season, and although that's not Milner's fault sometimes it takes your best players going and others coming in to make things click. Maybe.

I'd prefer him to stay, but not more than I'd want £25m+ to be able to spend elsewhere. Plus Ashley young and we'd have a war chest of close to £40/50m plus whatever money Randy gives MON.

So let's say we offload some players - around 15m's worth - those two go for £45m or so - and randy gives us 15m to spend. Does anyone realistically think we cannot become a better team next season with the solid base that will be still there and around £75m to spend?

[Brend'Watkins]

Where have you been peter w?

Anyway, rest assured, once Milner goes in whatever shape of deal, just like Barry, he will instantly become shit and overrated.

[jeff]

Personally if they offered £20mil plus Ireland, Joe Hart or Richards i would snap there hand off. If we can get more than that then great.

[mcgrath_85]

Your  perhaps going a bit to far now John. Though, I can see what your saying.

If in selling Milner we recieve Richards, Ireland, Swp and some cash, then great.

If we were to sell Ashley, if anyone is interested at the moment? Then I'd still prefer players to come in as part ex.

75 mil in mon's pocket. Who the he'll would he buy? They'd have to be English for a start.

[JUAN PABLO]

Dont worry MON will sell Milner and replace with Charlie Adam ;-)

[Concrete John]

I honestly can't see the big negative problem here. A player goes, albeit a good one, we get money and keep rebuilding until its right. I thought the balance of the team looked wrong last season, and although that's not Milner's fault sometimes it takes your best players going and others coming in to make things click. Maybe.

I'd prefer him to stay, but not more than I'd want £25m+ to be able to spend elsewhere. Plus Ashley young and we'd have a war chest of close to £40/50m plus whatever money Randy gives MON.

So let's say we offload some players - around 15m's worth - those two go for £45m or so - and randy gives us 15m to spend. Does anyone realistically think we cannot become a better team next season with the solid base that will be still there and around £75m to spend?

I think the problem is that should thay all go we'd lose a lot of that solid base we've built up.

£75m is a lot to spend, but getting all the players we'd need and bedding them in would be a big task as we'd probably need to write off the beginning part of next season!

[mcgrath_85]

Or maybe Jimmy Bullard in a 12million swoop.

[TimTheVillain]

I honestly can't see the big negative problem here. A player goes, albeit a good one, we get money and keep rebuilding until its right. I thought the balance of the team looked wrong last season, and although that's not Milner's fault sometimes it takes your best players going and others coming in to make things click. Maybe.

I'd prefer him to stay, but not more than I'd want £25m+ to be able to spend elsewhere. Plus Ashley young and we'd have a war chest of close to £40/50m plus whatever money Randy gives MON.

So let's say we offload some players - around 15m's worth - those two go for £45m or so - and randy gives us 15m to spend. Does anyone realistically think we cannot become a better team next season with the solid base that will be still there and around £75m to spend?

Please stop being positive.


We have a reputation to behold.

*smiley thing*

[peter w]

Yes we'd lose in some respects but we could rebuild and get better. As i said, if the balance of the team is addressed then we should improve. Attacking wise we were found out last season and hence we drew too many games. Every now and then we'd put a performance in - usually for about 20 minutes in a game when we'd keep scoring, but other than that we looked laboured and very dour.

This for a supposed counter-attacking team with bags of pace and attacking prowess. I wouldn't mind tinkering and changing it a bit to find a better shape and have a more solid look to the midifled and see a team that looked like they can keep the ball when passing it around, and look like they can do it in areas where it hurts.

With the same starting 11 that started most games at the end of last season can you see that happening? Surgery is needed, not major, but if it means taking one step backwards to get a better looking Villa team then I don't mind Milner and Ash being casualties of that.

[BedsVillain]

I honestly can't see the big negative problem here. A player goes, albeit a good one, we get money and keep rebuilding until its right. I thought the balance of the team looked wrong last season, and although that's not Milner's fault sometimes it takes your best players going and others coming in to make things click. Maybe.

I'd prefer him to stay, but not more than I'd want £25m+ to be able to spend elsewhere. Plus Ashley young and we'd have a war chest of close to £40/50m plus whatever money Randy gives MON.

So let's say we offload some players - around 15m's worth - those two go for £45m or so - and randy gives us 15m to spend. Does anyone realistically think we cannot become a better team next season with the solid base that will be still there and around £75m to spend?

Completely agree with your sentiment here Peter, but I feel if we are to sell Milner say to Citeh that getting good players in return will be more beneficial than cash alone. The reason for that is, one, when we go to spend that cash, any player we are interested in will be a large percentage more expensive than they would be normally. Two, I'm not sure how good MON would be with £45-75m to spend.

So say for instance we sold Milner to Citeh and got £15-20m + Ireland and Onuoha, and for arguments sake we let Ashley go to Spuds but got Bentley and Pavlyuchenko in return. We'd end up with four good players and £15-20m cash plus what ever we get for the summer clear out say another £15m. Then we can re-invest that £30m on another couple of very good players, DM and goalkeeper maybe?

[peter w]

Don't get me wrong I'm just putting the cash amounts for the sake of argument. If we can get a couple of players in that go into positions that need strengthening then that is of course better. Two out of Richards/Bellamy/SWP/Ireland plus some cash is more than okay.

[mcgrath_85]

BedsVillain - I agree.

[BedsVillain]

Don't get me wrong I'm just putting the cash amounts for the sake of argument. If we can get a couple of players in that go into positions that need strengthening then that is of course better. Two out of Richards/Bellamy/SWP/Ireland plus some cash is more than okay.

No I understand where you were coming from mate. Milner and Ash are both very good players but they could also be replaced IMO, maybe not like for like but we could certainly reinvest if some idiot(s) is prepared to deal over the odds for the pair of them.

[hilts_coolerking]

Hypothetically, because they might not go anywhere, who could we get that would make as big a contribution as Milner and Young did last season?

[cheltenhamlion]

The difficulty I have with replacing them is the very limited field we operate in transfer wise.

I am sure there are players in the world who would improve us but as we will likely be limited to buying from the domestic market again they aren't going to be too easy to find.