The Milner Novela... Final episode page 296

[pauliewalnuts]

There's not much point over-analysing what footballers say, particularly when it is as ambiguous as that.

They get put in a position where they have to say "something" and, not having Paxmanesque skills, will say what they think sounds right.

What really matters is what happens when crunch comes to crunch, and he has to make a decision as to what he wants.

[Drummond]

If we get silly money we'd be silly not to accept it.

If we get Gudjonssen (sp?) instead of Heskey and Bentley/Ireland in as well then we'll be ok.

I'm resigned to us not finishing above 6th for the foreseeable future, I'm resigned to football becoming more and more money-orientated as time goes on.

We were promising in the Cups last year and fingers crossed we'll go one better in the Carling Cup and two better in the FA Cup next year. I'm switched off to the League when in reality all we're doing is battling for maybe at a push getting 4th; I'll bet Milner feels the same way. We've been 6th for the last 3 years, do we really think we'll go higher?

Players want to play against the best and they go to the Champions League to do it.

[jonzy85]

I agree entirely Paulie...especially in Milner's case, when he is not used to being under such intense transfer speculation while preparing for his first World Cup.
I think he was just trying to say something and nothing.

[pestria]

I can't understand why ManC want them.

Sure Milner, Young and Barry are all good players, but they're not going to guarantee you champions league football, let alone win the premiership.  they probably wouldn't even be automatic choices in the Spurs midfield that beat City a few weeks ago.

If money is no object to city why aren't they after 'elite' players?

[Namlod]

Selective quoting or what ??
Quote me where I have said the bolded stuff
I'll bet you can't.

Chill out Andy! I never said I was quoting you.

I merely pointed out that the opinions on this thread have change from

He won't go he's too level headed ...... to if he does go how much do we want .......to I'm pissed off with him now as he's going.

He is irreplaceable and can't leave..........to Stephen Ireland would be a good replacement........to he was good but not that good.

(Remember, this are opinions and not direct quotes)

I find it amusing to read the change and differences in opinions but this is a Fans Forum and everyone is entitled to air their view.

[jonzy85]

I think they want solid PL players that will get them into 4th. Once they get there they will go after Europe's elite to make of CL. No point bringing those players in for awway days at Stoke just yet.

[Greg N'Ash]

I can't understand why ManC want them.

Sure Milner, Young and Barry are all good players, but they're not going to guarantee you champions league football, let alone win the premiership.  they probably wouldn't even be automatic choices in the Spurs midfield that beat City a few weeks ago.

If money is no object to city why aren't they after 'elite' players?

because they can't attract them yet.

[john e]

If we get silly money we'd be silly not to accept it.

If we get Gudjonssen (sp?) instead of Heskey and Bentley/Ireland in as well then we'll be ok.

I'm resigned to us not finishing above 6th for the foreseeable future, I'm resigned to football becoming more and more money-orientated as time goes on.

We were promising in the Cups last year and fingers crossed we'll go one better in the Carling Cup and two better in the FA Cup next year. I'm switched off to the League when in reality all we're doing is battling for maybe at a push getting 4th; I'll bet Milner feels the same way. We've been 6th for the last 3 years, do we really think we'll go higher?

Players want to play against the best and they go to the Champions League to do it.

Depressingly acurate Drummond

[SoccerHQ]

I think they want solid PL players that will get them into 4th. Once they get there they will go after Europe's elite to make of CL. No point bringing those players in for awway days at Stoke just yet.

Yep, come rain or shine you know Milner will be up for a cold away day at Stoke or Bolton which you can't say about the likes of Adebayor and Robinho.

Man. City won't get the top world players until they make the champions league. Before then it's still hoovering up the best players at other prem clubs.

[john e]

Hypothetical question -

if we had the same squad without Millner and had 30 mill to spend, how many of us would  want to splash the whole lot on Millner

not many of us,
because he's good but not that good, he's certainly not worth 30 mill in my view,

he is more Des Bremmner than Gordon Cowans and although Desi was the unsung hero he would never be worth more than the real playmakers.

i would take the 30 mill,
 but share the same worries as a lot of others on here as to what we will spend it on

[pestria]

I can't understand why ManC want them.

Sure Milner, Young and Barry are all good players, but they're not going to guarantee you champions league football, let alone win the premiership.  they probably wouldn't even be automatic choices in the Spurs midfield that beat City a few weeks ago.

If money is no object to city why aren't they after 'elite' players?

because they can't attract them yet.

I know that's an issue, but look at the other way round.

Why would Milner et al want to go to City?  I'm sure they will get into the CL at some point in the not too distant future, but why not cut out the uncertainty and go somewhere where it's guaranteed this year?

Unless it's the money....... which means City could attract even better players by splashing yet more cash - something of a contradiction I think.

[pestria]

I think they want solid PL players that will get them into 4th. Once they get there they will go after Europe's elite to make of CL. No point bringing those players in for awway days at Stoke just yet.

'Solid' premiership players don't get you 4th.  Surely we of all teams should know that.

[jonzy85]

I think they want solid PL players that will get them into 4th. Once they get there they will go after Europe's elite to make of CL. No point bringing those players in for awway days at Stoke just yet.

'Solid' premiership players don't get you 4th.  Surely we of all teams should know that.

How many of "Europe's elite" did Spurs sign?
They got there with the likes of Dawson, Huddlestone, Lennon, Defoe.

[Greg N'Ash]

Hypothetical question -

if we had the same squad without Millner and had 30 mill to spend, how many of us would  want to splash the whole lot on Millner

not many of us,
because he's good but not that good, he's certainly not worth 30 mill in my view,

he is more Des Bremmner than Gordon Cowans and although Desi was the unsung hero he would never be worth more than the real playmakers.

i would take the 30 mill,
 but share the same worries as a lot of others on here as to what we will spend it on

true, but no-one has come up with a convincing target or price to replace him. even those talking about p/x for the likes of Ireland have woefully underestimated the value of them. if we want 30m for milner you can bet citeh will put a 15m value at least on ireland. we could end up with someone slighlty less good than milner bought for slightly less money

[pestria]

Hypothetical question -

if we had the same squad without Millner and had 30 mill to spend, how many of us would  want to splash the whole lot on Millner

not many of us,
because he's good but not that good, he's certainly not worth 30 mill in my view,

he is more Des Bremmner than Gordon Cowans and although Desi was the unsung hero he would never be worth more than the real playmakers.

i would take the 30 mill,
 but share the same worries as a lot of others on here as to what we will spend it on

I agree that at £30m we'd have the best of any deal.  

In a perfect world world that money would be very useful in reshaping the whole of the midfield set up that would enable us to win some of those elusive home games and maybe improve our league position.

MON managed something similar with the defence last year, but I'm not so he'll be able to do a repeat job.