I think that money is obviously important to Milner, as it is to us all.
He was sick of the circus at Newcastle, part of which was them trying to get away with paying him a lot less than other 1st team players. If he leaves us now, I think it will be mainly be for the 'footballing' reasons of thinking Man City are a better longterm bet, but he'll also negotiate himself a very healthy payrise in the process.
I think he's being motivated 25% by the cash and 75% for other reasons.
Milner is happy to have joined Villa but insists that Newcastle could have done more to keep him.
He said: "I enjoyed every minute at Newcastle. It was a fantastic club. I enjoyed working with the manager and they are a great bunch of lads.
"But I knew offers had come in over the summer and the club had turned them down and the valuation of me wasn't reflected in the deal I was on.
"Speaking to them, I felt it was the right thing to put in a transfer request to show how I felt.
Quote from: "old man villa fan"Quote from: "Troy Eccles"Quote from: "old man villa fan"...No doubt there are people advising him differently, saying "it's your chance to play in the CL and earn an extra £50k a week".
When did the FA bring in this new ruling that Man City are playing Champions League? I must have missed it with all the World Cup Hubub.
Since that Sinatra fella came into Man City, everyone has been saying that they're a certaintly for CL football and yet, through various managers and untold fortunes, they've not cracked it.
I know, I know, they'll do it next year.
Yeah, right-oh.
That is not what I said, read the rest of what I wrote.
The part you quoted is what I said other may be saying to him, without his best interests at heart.
Please do not pick out parts and make believe I was saying something else.
you have got nearly 300 posts mate,
you should therefore know by now that picking a bit out of a post and making something up about it is what its all about on here with some posters
just accept that people will not always read what you say, but will read what they want it to say
Quote from: "John M"I think that money is obviously important to Milner, as it is to us all.
He was sick of the circus at Newcastle, part of which was them trying to get away with paying him a lot less than other 1st team players. If he leaves us now, I think it will be mainly be for the 'footballing' reasons of thinking Man City are a better longterm bet, but he'll also negotiate himself a very healthy payrise in the process.
I think he's being motivated 25% by the cash and 75% for other reasons.
That's an interesting percentage breakdown John.
Out of interest, how did you arrive at that exact figure?
According to Mysterious Ways on VT he's had his head turned by the money on offer and nowt else. Taken in isolation that kind of reference would be easy enough to dismiss, granted.
But the fella does have a pretty decent track record of calling it right previously. And Milner has left for monetary reasons previously too by his own admission. I didn't see any reference to the troubles at Newcastle forming part of his decision.
For clarity:QuoteMilner is happy to have joined Villa but insists that Newcastle could have done more to keep him.
He said: "I enjoyed every minute at Newcastle. It was a fantastic club. I enjoyed working with the manager and they are a great bunch of lads.
"But I knew offers had come in over the summer and the club had turned them down and the valuation of me wasn't reflected in the deal I was on.
"Speaking to them, I felt it was the right thing to put in a transfer request to show how I felt.
you should therefore know by now that picking a bit out of a post and making something up about it is what its all about on here with some posters
just accept that people will not always read what you say, but will read what they want it to say
But putting in a transfer request cost him money, how do you square that one?
Quote from: "john e"
you should therefore know by now that picking a bit out of a post and making something up about it is what its all about on here with some posters
just accept that people will not always read what you say, but will read what they want it to say
Aye.
And if you back up your point of view with direct quotes you're somehow 'misinterpreting' them.
Quote from: "John M"I think that money is obviously important to Milner, as it is to us all.
He was sick of the circus at Newcastle, part of which was them trying to get away with paying him a lot less than other 1st team players. If he leaves us now, I think it will be mainly be for the 'footballing' reasons of thinking Man City are a better longterm bet, but he'll also negotiate himself a very healthy payrise in the process.
I think he's being motivated 25% by the cash and 75% for other reasons.
That's an interesting percentage breakdown John.
Out of interest, how did you arrive at that exact figure?
According to Mysterious Ways on VT he's had his head turned by the money on offer and nowt else. Taken in isolation that kind of reference would be easy enough to dismiss, granted.
But the fella does have a pretty decent track record of calling it right previously. And Milner has left for monetary reasons previously too by his own admission. I didn't see any reference to the troubles at Newcastle forming part of his decision.
For clarity:QuoteMilner is happy to have joined Villa but insists that Newcastle could have done more to keep him.
He said: "I enjoyed every minute at Newcastle. It was a fantastic club. I enjoyed working with the manager and they are a great bunch of lads.
"But I knew offers had come in over the summer and the club had turned them down and the valuation of me wasn't reflected in the deal I was on.
"Speaking to them, I felt it was the right thing to put in a transfer request to show how I felt.
Quote from: "Chris Smith"
But putting in a transfer request cost him money, how do you square that one?
Well genius, I'll take a stab at it and say that the wages and signing on fee he thought he could get elsewhere might just possibly offset any loss in that regard.
But I'm sure you'll trawl through obscure quotes from his postman or his first girlfriend to illustrate that Jimmy doesn't play that way.
Quote from: "hilts_coolerking"Quote from: "Chris Smith"
I suspect that you haven't read the article I posted earlier, if you had you would see many people who have worked with Milner being unsparing in their praise for him both as a man and as a footballer. I'd rather base my views on that sort of informed opinion than on a couple of post match interviews.
I agree that this is the generally accepted view of what sort of bloke Milner is.
Which makes me wonder to what extent money is the major factor in a possible move to Man City. He just doesn't strike me as the kind of bloke who is motivated only by money.i agree the reason we will are under pressure to lose our star players is because we are a top 6 not top 4 team, we seem to be happy to accept our place in the second tier of the PL and we have a manager than can virtually garauntee that
As I said yesterday I read "the valuation of me" as referring to the price they wanted for him. That seems a pretty reasonable way of looking at it, most people when they talk of the valuation of a footballer would think of the transfer fee. So Milner thought that the price Newcastle were asking for him wasn't consistent with the money they were paying him.
I would like to say that this is probably the most annoying thread I have ever read on H&V-and that is saying something.
Quote from: "kipeye"I would like to say that this is probably the most annoying thread I have ever read on H&V-and that is saying something.
Its a toss up with the transfer thread.
I would like to say that this is probably the most annoying thread I have ever read on H&V-and that is saying something.