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Author Topic: Summer 2010 Transfer Thread: B*llsh*t, Rumours & Wishes  (Read 1117460 times)

Offline PaulTheVillan

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Summer 2010 Transfer Thread: B*llsh*t, Rumours & Wishes
« Reply #8145 on: August 04, 2010, 02:33:59 PM »
Wonder if Luke Young will have any dirt to dish on MON/Villa when he leaves?

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« Reply #8146 on: August 04, 2010, 02:38:58 PM »
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
Wonder if Luke Young will have any dirt to dish on MON/Villa when he leaves?


Pat McMahon on this site will be pleased about Young leaving.

Young called Pat a wanker once, when he was playing for Boro and Pat was giving him a bit of stick

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Summer 2010 Transfer Thread: B*llsh*t, Rumours & Wishes
« Reply #8147 on: August 04, 2010, 02:40:48 PM »
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Quote from: "bob"
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Even though I'm not a fan of playing Cuellar at RB, and that Cuellar isn't good coming forward but he makes us much better defensively.


Debatable.


there's nothing to debate. My statement is a fact, look at the stats.


There are many variables that affect the outcome of a football match, so simply looking at the results/goals conceded  in games in which Cuellar has played at right back and those in which he hasn't seems a crude method of analysis. 

I remember several occasions where Cuellar's positioning cost us a goal last season.

Can I use evidence that I have seen with my own eyes, or do I have to rely solely on numbers and statistics?

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Summer 2010 Transfer Thread: B*llsh*t, Rumours & Wishes
« Reply #8148 on: August 04, 2010, 02:45:31 PM »
Quite, I've seen some Villa teams defend like Lions over the years and concede 1 or 2 goals, doesn't mean we didn't defend as well as say a routine 1 nil home win against a poor side who caused us no problems at all.

Offline Dr Butler

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Summer 2010 Transfer Thread: B*llsh*t, Rumours & Wishes
« Reply #8149 on: August 04, 2010, 02:49:25 PM »
Quote from: "Chico Hamilton III"
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
Wonder if Luke Young will have any dirt to dish on MON/Villa when he leaves?


Pat McMahon on this site will be pleased about Young leaving.

Young called Pat a wanker once, when he was playing for Boro and Pat was giving him a bit of stick


was Young right Chico ?   ;-)

The Doc

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Summer 2010 Transfer Thread: B*llsh*t, Rumours & Wishes
« Reply #8150 on: August 04, 2010, 02:50:18 PM »
Quote from: "Chico Hamilton III"
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
Wonder if Luke Young will have any dirt to dish on MON/Villa when he leaves?


Pat McMahon on this site will be pleased about Young leaving.

Young called Pat a wanker once, when he was playing for Boro and Pat was giving him a bit of stick


Well I wouldn't have expected him to have said 'Cheers!'

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Summer 2010 Transfer Thread: B*llsh*t, Rumours & Wishes
« Reply #8151 on: August 04, 2010, 02:50:21 PM »
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Maybe it should be renamed "Luke Young going to Fulham" anyway.


Ha!

Offline Chico Hamilton III

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Summer 2010 Transfer Thread: B*llsh*t, Rumours & Wishes
« Reply #8152 on: August 04, 2010, 02:53:27 PM »
Quote from: "Dr Butler"
Quote from: "Chico Hamilton III"
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
Wonder if Luke Young will have any dirt to dish on MON/Villa when he leaves?


Pat McMahon on this site will be pleased about Young leaving.

Young called Pat a wanker once, when he was playing for Boro and Pat was giving him a bit of stick


was Young right Chico ?   ;-)

The Doc


Pat's a top fella.

His claim to fame was running the London Marathon a few years ago and getting narrowly beaten at the finish line by a bloke who was dressed up as Scooby Doo.

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Summer 2010 Transfer Thread: B*llsh*t, Rumours & Wishes
« Reply #8153 on: August 04, 2010, 02:59:44 PM »
Quote from: "Chico Hamilton III"
Quote from: "Dr Butler"
Quote from: "Chico Hamilton III"
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
Wonder if Luke Young will have any dirt to dish on MON/Villa when he leaves?


Pat McMahon on this site will be pleased about Young leaving.

Young called Pat a wanker once, when he was playing for Boro and Pat was giving him a bit of stick


was Young right Chico ?   ;-)

The Doc


Pat's a top fella.

His claim to fame was running the London Marathon a few years ago and getting narrowly beaten at the finish line by a bloke who was dressed up as Scooby Doo.


Ha ha...  I like him .  

The Doc

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Summer 2010 Transfer Thread: B*llsh*t, Rumours & Wishes
« Reply #8154 on: August 04, 2010, 03:00:43 PM »
Quote from: "bob"
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Quote from: "bob"
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Even though I'm not a fan of playing Cuellar at RB, and that Cuellar isn't good coming forward but he makes us much better defensively.


Debatable.


there's nothing to debate. My statement is a fact, look at the stats.


There are many variables that affect the outcome of a football match, so simply looking at the results/goals conceded  in games in which Cuellar has played at right back and those in which he hasn't seems a crude method of analysis. 

I remember several occasions where Cuellar's positioning cost us a goal last season.

Can I use evidence that I have seen with my own eyes, or do I have to rely solely on numbers and statistics?


I'm sure you can point to instances where every single player in the world made a mistake last season but I’m not sure what that proves. The fact is that measured over 38 games we had the 4th best defensive record in the league and but for an aberration at Chelsea would have been even higher. Cuellar was a big part of the unit that achieved that.

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Summer 2010 Transfer Thread: B*llsh*t, Rumours & Wishes
« Reply #8155 on: August 04, 2010, 03:02:50 PM »
Agreed, its not King Carlos' defending that is the issue. He's a top defender. Its going the other way that is the problem, particularly against sides at home where we don't need his defensive ability.

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Summer 2010 Transfer Thread: B*llsh*t, Rumours & Wishes
« Reply #8156 on: August 04, 2010, 03:03:34 PM »
Quote from: "Chris Smith"

I'm sure you can point to instances where every single player in the world made a mistake last season but I’m not sure what that proves. The fact is that measured over 38 games we had the 4th best defensive record in the league and but for an aberration at Chelsea would have been even higher. Cuellar was a big part of the unit that achieved that.


By which measure, Glen Johnson must be fantastic defensively, as he formed an integral part of the defence with the 3rd best record in the league last season.

And as for that colossus Kyrgiakos  ...

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Summer 2010 Transfer Thread: B*llsh*t, Rumours & Wishes
« Reply #8157 on: August 04, 2010, 03:04:57 PM »
Quote from: "bob"
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Quote from: "bob"
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Even though I'm not a fan of playing Cuellar at RB, and that Cuellar isn't good coming forward but he makes us much better defensively.


Debatable.


there's nothing to debate. My statement is a fact, look at the stats.


There are many variables that affect the outcome of a football match, so simply looking at the results/goals conceded  in games in which Cuellar has played at right back and those in which he hasn't seems a crude method of analysis. 

I remember several occasions where Cuellar's positioning cost us a goal last season.

Can I use evidence that I have seen with my own eyes, or do I have to rely solely on numbers and statistics?

I bet the several occasions where Cuellar's positioning cost us a goal last season is far less than the number of times he cleared the ball off the line with the keeper beaten. He's a bloody good defender, playing out of position admitedly but still a bloody good defender.

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Summer 2010 Transfer Thread: B*llsh*t, Rumours & Wishes
« Reply #8158 on: August 04, 2010, 03:06:54 PM »
Quote from: "Ads"
Agreed, its not King Carlos' defending that is the issue. He's a top defender. Its going the other way that is the problem, particularly against sides at home where we don't need his defensive ability.

Nail on head.

Offline maidstonevillain

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Summer 2010 Transfer Thread: B*llsh*t, Rumours & Wishes
« Reply #8159 on: August 04, 2010, 03:10:36 PM »
Quote from: "Chris Smith"
Quote from: "bob"
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Quote from: "bob"
Quote from: "toronto villa"
Even though I'm not a fan of playing Cuellar at RB, and that Cuellar isn't good coming forward but he makes us much better defensively.


Debatable.


there's nothing to debate. My statement is a fact, look at the stats.


There are many variables that affect the outcome of a football match, so simply looking at the results/goals conceded  in games in which Cuellar has played at right back and those in which he hasn't seems a crude method of analysis. 

I remember several occasions where Cuellar's positioning cost us a goal last season.

Can I use evidence that I have seen with my own eyes, or do I have to rely solely on numbers and statistics?


 and but for an aberration at Chelsea would have been even higher.


And who was playing at RB that day.

 


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