Summer 2010 Transfer Thread: B*llsh*t, Rumours & Wishes

[eastie]

Keane would give 3 decent years service, spurs fans might be more prepared to let him go because they have an abundance of top strikers whereas our strikeforce is much weaker than theirs.

If I had Defoe, crouch and pav then I wouldn't be worried but keane is better than any striker we have.

I'm still far from convinced gabby will ever really be a top striker, he misses far too many easy chances.

[supertom]

Keane has had to play a lot of games on the left wing under Redknapp too. Obviously, Defoe is their main man now, and Keane and Defoe can't play together, so Harry has struggled to fit Keane into his best role.

At least you'd know you're likely to get double figures from Keane. He might have lost a bit of pace, but that was never his strongest point anyway.

I also think he could potentially have a field day with Carew. Big John often makes decent little flick ons off his bonce, but Gabby is awful at reading a strike partner, where'as Keane revelled playing alongside Berbatov for example. Put a clever forward alongside Big John and we'd see the worth.

Similarly Gabby might be dumb as a bag of crickets, but he works hard and his pace causes problems. The donkey work he does would suit someone like Keane, who's movement is good and he'd exploit space

I think he'd do well with either of our front two.

[Concrete John]

best case scenario for me with Keane is he makes an impact for 2 seasons similar to saunders (though he was 2 years younger than Keane) and then we're left looking for a striker again with no money from a Keane sale to pay for it. what worries me is on a lot of the spurs boards they've been saying keane has "lost" something in speed of reactions. not good

Yes, we'd need another striker in 2 or 3 years, but player recruitment is an ongoing process anyway, so that shouldn't be a worry.  The low/lack of re-sale value is a concern, but then that's all to do with what we would pay for him.  

Plus, he those extra 6 goals we'd get if he replaced Heskey, which I think is on the lower end of the spectrum, might we not pinch 4th and then be able to attract a better striker?

[eastie]

Agreed!

[LeeB]

My concern is a) he's ready for the knackers yard b) they want too much for him and c) we've been down this road before and it left us with no money and David O'Leary.

[Concrete John]

My concern is a) he's ready for the knackers yard b) they want too much for him and c) we've been down this road before and it left us with no money and David O'Leary.

a) don't agree and the stats seem to suggest otherwise also
b) true, but if they do we don't pay if and look elsewhere
c) that was a large influx of older players, this is one I'm advocating and he'd be coming into quite a young squad anyway!

[eastie]

If keane is ready fir the knackers yard at his age in your opinion what does it say about Carew,heskey,petrov,dunne, luke,and friedal?

Keane is younger than several of our 1st team regulars.

Get him in mon and let the knockers come on here in a years time ala Richard dunne!

[LeeB]

My concern is a) he's ready for the knackers yard b) they want too much for him and c) we've been down this road before and it left us with no money and David O'Leary.

a) don't agree and the stats seem to suggest otherwise also
b) true, but if they do we don't pay if and look elsewhere
c) that was a large influx of older players, this is one I'm advocating and he'd be coming into quite a young squad anyway!

They'd want at least £10m given what Fletcher's just gone for. I wouldn't spend that on a 29 year old who's had just had two in and out seasons. Spend it on someone who could potentially improve.

[Greg N'Ash]

best case scenario for me with Keane is he makes an impact for 2 seasons similar to saunders (though he was 2 years younger than Keane) and then we're left looking for a striker again with no money from a Keane sale to pay for it. what worries me is on a lot of the spurs boards they've been saying keane has "lost" something in speed of reactions. not good

Yes, we'd need another striker in 2 or 3 years, but player recruitment is an ongoing process anyway, so that shouldn't be a worry.  The low/lack of re-sale value is a concern, but then that's all to do with what we would pay for him.  

Plus, he those extra 6 goals we'd get if he replaced Heskey, which I think is on the lower end of the spectrum, might we not pinch 4th and then be able to attract a better striker?

i'd rather have a striker who we can say "he's one of our main men for the next 5 years like i'd hope we can say about milner, gabby, young etc... you can't have a team of youngsters and need a blend but i want a striker who's in his prime or about to enter it so we're not rebuilding in 2/3 years. if the manager can't get someone like that after 5 years then something's wrong.

[LeeB]

If keane is ready fir the knackers yard at his age in your opinion what does it say about Carew,heskey,petrov,dunne, luke,and friedal?

Keane is younger than several of our 1st team regulars.

Get him in mon and let the knockers come on here in a years time ala Richard dunne!

I says that strikers need that half yard of pace to get shots out, spin their man and get accross the defenders in the six yard box. When they lose it they get found out at the highest level, and we're trying to get there. Carew and Heskey can both leave for those reasons and more as far as I'm concerned, and the others play in different roles and therefore can adjust their skills with to counter the march of time.

I'm not saying it's 100% foolproof, but it applies in Keane's cae

[Concrete John]

i'd rather have a striker who we can say "he's one of our main men for the next 5 years like i'd hope we can say about milner, gabby, young etc... you can't have a team of youngsters and need a blend but i want a striker who's in his prime or about to enter it so we're not rebuilding in 2/3 years. if the manager can't get someone like that after 5 years then something's wrong.

I'd rather bring in the striking equivalent of Milner or Ash aswell, but sometimes that's not always possible.  Plus we need to be thinking of someone who can play with Gabby, so right now a more experienced head might be a better bet.  

I'm not trying to make him out to be the best signing we could make, just that he'd be a useful asset and help improve us.  Sorta the striking quivalent of Richard Dunne.

[LeeB]

John, of all those seriously mentioned so far I'd probably rather go for Doyle, there's a good chance of there being a seriously good little player there.

[Chris Smith]

If keane is ready fir the knackers yard at his age in your opinion what does it say about Carew,heskey,petrov,dunne, luke,and friedal?

Keane is younger than several of our 1st team regulars.

Get him in mon and let the knockers come on here in a years time ala Richard dunne!

I says that strikers need that half yard of pace to get shots out, spin their man and get accross the defenders in the six yard box. When they lose it they get found out at the highest level, and we're trying to get there. Carew and Heskey can both leave for those reasons and more as far as I'm concerned, and the others play in different roles and therefore can adjust their skills with to counter the march of time.

I'm not saying it's 100% foolproof, but it applies in Keane's cae

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Does the fact that he's younger than Drogba and Anelka not undermine that argument somewhat?

[Concrete John]

I says that strikers need that half yard of pace to get shots out, spin their man and get accross the defenders in the six yard box. When they lose it they get found out at the highest level, and we're trying to get there. Carew and Heskey can both leave for those reasons and more as far as I'm concerned, and the others play in different roles and therefore can adjust their skills with to counter the march of time.

I'm not saying it's 100% foolproof, but it applies in Keane's cae

I think it depends on the striker involved, what their strenghts are and how they score their goals.  Strikers like Defoe do rely on that half a yard and so pace is important in small bursts to them - they're one or two touch finishers and do their best work in the box.  Keane is more likely to have the ball at his feet and try to make something happen from deeper and isn't a 'poacher' type, so it's less important, IMO.

[Concrete John]

John, of all those seriously mentioned so far I'd probably rather go for Doyle, there's a good chance of there being a seriously good little player there.

Each to their own, but I simply don't think Doyle is good enough!