Summer 2010 Transfer Thread: B*llsh*t, Rumours & Wishes

[Greg N'Ash]

Random comment to try and get a rise out of people

nothing of any value.

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thanks

[Concrete John]

People are slagging off McGeady like they've scouted him for a living. None of us have any knowledge of whether he'd be a success in the PL or not. In fact, I can guarantee you that if he signs for someone else and does well, people will be slagging MON for letting him slip by. He's a talented, yet unproven player at PL level just like every foreign player some have been screaming for us to get. If McGeady was really the promising Van McGeady from the Dutch or Belgian league would it make any difference or just sound a little more glamorous?

No, the screaming is about only buying players who've played in the PL or its more violent, less watchable version north of the border.

I've seen him on occasions and been unimpressed. Others here have seen him much more, and seem even more unimpressed.

Year on year, come transfer window, we always seem to be downscaling our ambitions and almost making excuses for some of the signings ("wait till i see what he does in the shirt" - Harewood / Knight).

It'd be nice, once maybe, to make a signing with a bit of ambition rather than "more of the same" from a predictable pool of players, because that will not be enough to move us on. At some point, we need to bring about a quality shift in our players, upwards.

No, not signing Messi, but signing players a fair bit better than the ones we already have.

The fact remains we don't know what he can or cannot do in the PL. Just like Wigan fans knew nothing of Rodallega or Palacios before they joined and did well. I still think we need to sign solid squad players especially as is likely we are going to ship some out. Whether McGeady fits that mould I don't know, but taking the position that he's from Scotland or England therefore he's predictably average isn't necessarily true. I don't disagree with anyone who suggests we need to broaden our search beyond these shores, but I'm not going to get upset if we are still looking in this market if the right player at the right price comes along.

I also find it strange how nobody on here was talking about McGeady until he was linked in the papers, but when he does it becomes 'predictable'.

Now, I haven't got a dictionary to hand, but I'm pretty sure the definition of the word has something to do with stating what will happen BEFORE it's known?

[Merv]

I dunno. I've seen him a bit for Ireland, not so much for Celtic. Got bored about three minutes in to that video clip. From what I've seen, he's got a bit more about him than Maloney, who I liked, but couldn't really do much damage running at players.

If Celtic want Heskey then I wouldn't mind a swap-plus cash deal - I could see McGeady being a good option off the bench, or cover for either wing, or just off the striker. But talk of £8m is madness and, as I said in a previous post, we're pretty well-off in terms of wide players, so our priorities surely lie elsewhere......

[Greg N'Ash]

at best he's a bench player i'd say. Whats the point? What is the manager trying to achieve by buying him.? Has he given up on 4th?

[pauliewalnuts]

I also find it strange how nobody on here was talking about McGeady until he was linked in the papers, but when he does it becomes 'predictable'.

Now, I haven't got a dictionary to hand, but I'm pretty sure the definition of the word has something to do with stating what will happen BEFORE it's known?

We were linked with McGeady two years ago.

Still, he fits the predictable description - not significantly better than what we already have, plays in the UK, unimaginative.

He even plays in a position we're relatively sorted for.

[WarszaVillan]

I haven't seen much of McGeady. But I was told A.Young was overpriced, Collins was rubbish and Dunne slow. So I'll wait to pass judgement if he signs.

[Mossie Hennebry]

Referencing the Ireland setup, I would hazard that Stephen Hunt is a better option than Aidan McGeady.

[Concrete John]

I also find it strange how nobody on here was talking about McGeady until he was linked in the papers, but when he does it becomes 'predictable'.

Now, I haven't got a dictionary to hand, but I'm pretty sure the definition of the word has something to do with stating what will happen BEFORE it's known?

We were linked with McGeady two years ago.

Still, he fits the predictable description - not significantly better than what we already have, plays in the UK, unimaginative.

He even plays in a position we're relatively sorted for.

Yet if you're citical on the club/manager of going after 'predictable' players due to one link, should you not also recognize that they are also going after better player, who are not UK based and that we wouldn't expect due to the links with Huntelaar and Witsel of a few days ago?

[pauliewalnuts]

I also find it strange how nobody on here was talking about McGeady until he was linked in the papers, but when he does it becomes 'predictable'.

Now, I haven't got a dictionary to hand, but I'm pretty sure the definition of the word has something to do with stating what will happen BEFORE it's known?

We were linked with McGeady two years ago.

Still, he fits the predictable description - not significantly better than what we already have, plays in the UK, unimaginative.

He even plays in a position we're relatively sorted for.

Yet if you're citical on the club/manager of going after 'predictable' players due to one link, should you not also recognize that they are also going after better player, who are not UK based and that we wouldn't expect due to the links with Huntelaar and Witsel of a few days ago?

The difference is, McGeady is far more likely to happen than the other two you mention.

"Links" are "links". If the McGeady link turns to be nothing, then I'll be happy. If the Huntelaar one did, I'd be considerably less happy.

Which would you put your money on coming off? Huntelaar or McGeady?

[Toronto Villa]

I haven't seen much of McGeady. But I was told A.Young was overpriced, Collins was rubbish and Dunne slow. So I'll wait to pass judgement if he signs.

Also, that Milner was too much and that MON had fucked up by buying him over SWP. I can't bothered taking hard lines on player buys as I honestly don't know if they are worth the price until they play a few times for the club.

[Concrete John]

I haven't seen much of McGeady. But I was told A.Young was overpriced, Collins was rubbish and Dunne slow. So I'll wait to pass judgement if he signs.

Well said.  Whether we are happy with a signing or not, we should all give the player a chance and judge them on what they do in a Villa shirt.  Collins and Dunne are the rpime examples.

And yes, I know everyone said Harewood would be shit and he was, but does anyone else think he's better showings for us came after that goal at Anfield, after which the fans were well on his side?

[pauliewalnuts]

I haven't seen much of McGeady. But I was told A.Young was overpriced, Collins was rubbish and Dunne slow. So I'll wait to pass judgement if he signs.

Also, that Milner was too much and that MON had fucked up by buying him over SWP. I can't bothered taking hard lines on player buys as I honestly don't know if they are worth the price until they play a few times for the club.

Or that Heskey was shit, that Harewood was rubbish, that Knight wasn't very good, that Maloney was lightweight, that Routledge was crap etc etc.

All managers get them right and wrong. Ours is no different.

Our issue is that we're constantly fishing around the same level of players, and in the same pool, and that's not going to be anything like good enough - this season above all, now things have got considerably tougher.

Given that it is tougher, given that we've probably got less money to spend than in the past (and no, not "buy to sell"), given that Man City have first dibs on whoever they want pretty much, we're going to have be highly imaginative in our transfer policy this season more than ever.

It'd be good to see some evidence of that in the next month or so.

[Greg N'Ash]

trouble is the players that we thought were bad and turned out good, are in the minority compared to the ones we thought would be good/bad and weren't/were

[pauliewalnuts]

I haven't seen much of McGeady. But I was told A.Young was overpriced, Collins was rubbish and Dunne slow. So I'll wait to pass judgement if he signs.

Well said.  Whether we are happy with a signing or not, we should all give the player a chance and judge them on what they do in a Villa shirt.  Collins and Dunne are the rpime examples.

And yes, I know everyone said Harewood would be shit and he was, but does anyone else think he's better showings for us came after that goal at Anfield, after which the fans were well on his side?

I never heard him get stick at matches, far from it in fact, as he got that borderline cult hero stuff at times.

Marlon was not good enough, and a waste of a pretty decent amount of money. Like i said before, all managers drop clangers, but they're still clangers.

[Mossie Hennebry]

I haven't seen much of McGeady. But I was told A.Young was overpriced, Collins was rubbish and Dunne slow. So I'll wait to pass judgement if he signs.

Well said.  Whether we are happy with a signing or not, we should all give the player a chance and judge them on what they do in a Villa shirt.  Collins and Dunne are the rpime examples.

And yes, I know everyone said Harewood would be shit and he was, but does anyone else think he's better showings for us came after that goal at Anfield, after which the fans were well on his side?

I disagree. Collins, Dunne and Harewood were all Premier League players when they signed for us and as McGeady is coming from a league several rungs down the ladder, I don't believe it is a like-for-like comparison.
If McGeady is a target, it makes me worry for our future.