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Offline hilts_coolerking

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« Reply #450 on: February 19, 2010, 04:45:59 PM »
"Would you be prepared to take a pay cut to help the club?"

"Of course.  How much were you thinking about?"

"100%.  We haven't got a pot to piss in."

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« Reply #451 on: February 19, 2010, 06:01:17 PM »
I thought they had unintentionally took paycuts the three times they had not been paid on time.

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« Reply #452 on: February 19, 2010, 06:29:56 PM »
Pompey
The sellling of players is not to avoid Administration it is to fund the administration.

This will not happen because a player signed out of the transfer window could cause the same problems Tevis did.

The PL will have to lend the administrator money which they will then offset  from the end of season payment and or sale of the business, The PL and FA will try and get Pompey through the season because the impact on the PL and FA cup will be problematical.

Whatch this space

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« Reply #453 on: February 20, 2010, 08:41:22 AM »
Quote from: "hawkeye"
Pompey
The sellling of players is not to avoid Administration it is to fund the administration.

This will not happen because a player signed out of the transfer window could cause the same problems Tevis did.

The PL will have to lend the administrator money which they will then offset  from the end of season payment and or sale of the business, The PL and FA will try and get Pompey through the season because the impact on the PL and FA cup will be problematical.

Whatch this space
The PL have told Pompy they can not sell players outside of the window.They look doomed!

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« Reply #454 on: February 20, 2010, 01:56:32 PM »
I'm sick of this sympathy for Pompey. They over stretched themselves through bad management had a few glory years and are now feeling the consequences - what goes around comes around.
Looks like they want the rules bent for them to sell players surely this disadvantages other teams who kept withi the rules and are better run financially. We have all quickly forgotten that Pompey are fundamentally a mid to lower division two (in old money) club.

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« Reply #455 on: February 20, 2010, 02:51:03 PM »
Quote from: "lovejoy"
I'm sick of this sympathy for Pompey. They over stretched themselves through bad management had a few glory years and are now feeling the consequences - what goes around comes around.
Looks like they want the rules bent for them to sell players surely this disadvantages other teams who kept withi the rules and are better run financially. We have all quickly forgotten that Pompey are fundamentally a mid to lower division two (in old money) club.


Some of it has been over stretching themselves but as mentioned before some of it has been possible more sinister goings on within the boardroom. If we didn't get someone good in like Lerner something similar could have happened here.

Also do you really want to lose points and see Small Heath byed through to the Semi of the FA cup?

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« Reply #456 on: February 20, 2010, 02:51:03 PM »
Quote from: "lovejoy"
I'm sick of this sympathy for Pompey. They over stretched themselves through bad management had a few glory years and are now feeling the consequences - what goes around comes around.
Looks like they want the rules bent for them to sell players surely this disadvantages other teams who kept withi the rules and are better run financially. We have all quickly forgotten that Pompey are fundamentally a mid to lower division two (in old money) club.


Some of it has been over stretching themselves but as mentioned before some of it has been possible more sinister goings on within the boardroom. If we didn't get someone good in like Lerner something similar could have happened here.

Also do you really want to lose points and see Small Heath byed through to the Semi of the FA cup?

Offline pdiddybaby

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« Reply #457 on: February 20, 2010, 08:03:43 PM »
Quote from: "lovejoy"
I'm sick of this sympathy for Pompey. They over stretched themselves through bad management had a few glory years and are now feeling the consequences - what goes around comes around.
Looks like they want the rules bent for them to sell players surely this disadvantages other teams who kept withi the rules and are better run financially. We have all quickly forgotten that Pompey are fundamentally a mid to lower division two (in old money) club.


they did over stretch themselves and they deserve 'punishment' for that but what happened subsequently I have to say was more criminal and no one stepped in to stop it.

the football authorities wash their hands over any responsibility for the running of clubs and that s morally wrong

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« Reply #458 on: February 20, 2010, 08:11:19 PM »
Quote from: "lovejoy"
I'm sick of this sympathy for Pompey. They over stretched themselves through bad management had a few glory years and are now feeling the consequences - what goes around comes around.
Looks like they want the rules bent for them to sell players surely this disadvantages other teams who kept withi the rules and are better run financially. We have all quickly forgotten that Pompey are fundamentally a mid to lower division two (in old money) club.
The club are the fans just like thay are at Villa, the fans had nothing to do with the Financial goings on, yet it is they who suffer.

The football authorities are totally useless

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« Reply #459 on: February 20, 2010, 08:14:33 PM »
Quote from: "hawkeye"
Quote from: "lovejoy"
I'm sick of this sympathy for Pompey. They over stretched themselves through bad management had a few glory years and are now feeling the consequences - what goes around comes around.
Looks like they want the rules bent for them to sell players surely this disadvantages other teams who kept withi the rules and are better run financially. We have all quickly forgotten that Pompey are fundamentally a mid to lower division two (in old money) club.
The club are the fans just like thay are at Villa, the fans had nothing to do with the Financial goings on, yet it is they who suffer.

The football authorities are totally useless


I agree totally. The fans are those that really lose out. Players, owners etc won't give a shit 5 years down the line. But those that used to go down Fratton Park every other week will not have a football team anymore.

Imagine the generations of supporters in families, suddenly having no team to pass down to their kids. I find it all depressing and very sad.

Imagine if through no fault of yours, Aston Villa didn't exist anymore.

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« Reply #460 on: February 20, 2010, 08:16:32 PM »
Quote from: "pdiddybaby"
Quote from: "lovejoy"
I'm sick of this sympathy for Pompey. They over stretched themselves through bad management had a few glory years and are now feeling the consequences - what goes around comes around.
Looks like they want the rules bent for them to sell players surely this disadvantages other teams who kept withi the rules and are better run financially. We have all quickly forgotten that Pompey are fundamentally a mid to lower division two (in old money) club.


they did over stretch themselves and they deserve 'punishment' for that but what happened subsequently I have to say was more criminal and no one stepped in to stop it.

the football authorities wash their hands over any responsibility for the running of clubs and that s morally wrong
who desreves punishment? because the people that got them ibto this mess have scarpered except Peter Storey, big mte of arry

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« Reply #461 on: February 20, 2010, 08:19:12 PM »
Storey won't be going anywhere either. He'll be clinging to the wreckage of the club to get as much of the alleged £1.5m a year he 'earns'.

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« Reply #462 on: February 20, 2010, 08:20:22 PM »
Quote from: "Ross"
Storey won't be going anywhere either. He'll be clinging to the wreckage of the club to get as much of the alleged £1.5m a year he 'earns'.
i can tell you one thing, the paper shredders have been getting a fair old work out

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« Reply #463 on: February 20, 2010, 08:21:22 PM »
Quote from: "hawkeye"
Quote from: "pdiddybaby"
Quote from: "lovejoy"
I'm sick of this sympathy for Pompey. They over stretched themselves through bad management had a few glory years and are now feeling the consequences - what goes around comes around.
Looks like they want the rules bent for them to sell players surely this disadvantages other teams who kept withi the rules and are better run financially. We have all quickly forgotten that Pompey are fundamentally a mid to lower division two (in old money) club.


they did over stretch themselves and they deserve 'punishment' for that but what happened subsequently I have to say was more criminal and no one stepped in to stop it.

the football authorities wash their hands over any responsibility for the running of clubs and that s morally wrong
who desreves punishment? because the people that got them ibto this mess have scarpered except Peter Storey, big mte of arry


every fan including many Pompey knew that wage levels of 95% of turnover is on a run to disaster. The punishment for winning the FA cup should have been administration but survival. the only reason that did not happen was that the whole situation there was rotten and criminal.

Leeds did exactly the same thing and they got punished for it you can not defy economics and you can not pay out more than you earn. It is a lesson any Villa fan calling for massive signings on top of already a stretched wage bill should consider.

Offline bertlambshank

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« Reply #464 on: February 20, 2010, 08:22:44 PM »
Quote from: "Ross"
Storey won't be going anywhere either. He'll be clinging to the wreckage of the club to get as much of the alleged £1.5m a year he 'earns'.
That is a lot more per year than HDE ever did.

 


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