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Offline Whiney MacWhineface

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« Reply #180 on: January 21, 2010, 04:18:45 PM »
Stirling Albion Meercats

If allowed (which sadly for Stirling's finances looks unlikely) do you reckon Small Heath could link up with Bernard Matthews?

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« Reply #181 on: January 21, 2010, 10:19:07 PM »
I know it would be a bit fast but if Portsmouth completely go under (ie no administration, do not pass go, out of business), would the points in the league be affected? Got to admit, I don't know how football administration etc works. Mind you, I'm no different to most football clubs in that regard.

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« Reply #182 on: January 21, 2010, 10:27:43 PM »
Quote from: "curiousorange"
I know it would be a bit fast but if Portsmouth completely go under (ie no administration, do not pass go, out of business), would the points in the league be affected? Got to admit, I don't know how football administration etc works. Mind you, I'm no different to most football clubs in that regard.


Pompey will not go completely out of business, adminstration until the end of the season, wipe debts out as much as possible

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« Reply #183 on: January 22, 2010, 09:19:58 AM »
Quote from: "curiousorange"
I know it would be a bit fast but if Portsmouth completely go under (ie no administration, do not pass go, out of business), would the points in the league be affected? Got to admit, I don't know how football administration etc works. Mind you, I'm no different to most football clubs in that regard.


The usual method, at least in non-league where teams folding halfway through the season is all too common, is for their record to be expunged and all points gained against them are wiped out.
I can see there being an almighty uproar if this ultimately cost a team a CL place or relegated them!

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« Reply #184 on: January 23, 2010, 10:53:05 AM »
Quote from: "Dave Cooper"
Quote from: "curiousorange"
I know it would be a bit fast but if Portsmouth completely go under (ie no administration, do not pass go, out of business), would the points in the league be affected? Got to admit, I don't know how football administration etc works. Mind you, I'm no different to most football clubs in that regard.


The usual method, at least in non-league where teams folding halfway through the season is all too common, is for their record to be expunged and all points gained against them are wiped out.
I can see there being an almighty uproar if this ultimately cost a team a CL place or relegated them!


God help Pompey then. Liverpool may need their results expunged to clinch a Champions League spot.

Offline 1_Pablo_Angel

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« Reply #185 on: January 23, 2010, 02:16:49 PM »
There's a distinct lack of sympathy for pompey's fans on here which i think is very harsh. The average match going supporter can't be expected to analyse his clubs accounts every 5 minutes, or not celebrate an fa cup win. They probably thought the cash came straight from Gaydamak a la Abramovich, rather than short term bank loans secured against the club.

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« Reply #186 on: January 23, 2010, 04:06:00 PM »
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There's a distinct lack of sympathy for pompey's fans on here which i think is very harsh.


I find it very hard to have any sympathy for Portsmouth fans purely and simply because it would mean having an ounce of sympathy for twat who likes to get on the tv with the bell.

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« Reply #187 on: January 23, 2010, 06:12:53 PM »
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They probably thought the cash came straight from Gaydamak a la Abramovich, rather than short term bank loans secured against the club.


maybe they should have questioned it better,  did Pompey never publish any accounts ?

Offline 1_Pablo_Angel

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« Reply #188 on: January 24, 2010, 12:36:09 PM »
I don't really think that's relevant. I wouldn't know where to start looking at a clubs books, you can't expect average matchgoing supporters to randomly conduct forensic financial investigations into their club, especially when the new owner has been presented as a sugar daddy and everything's rosy on the pitch.

If you want to blame people for what's happened blame Gaydamak, Mandaric for selling to him, the Prem/FA for letting him and maybe the local media for not scrutinising things more closely. But not the fans.

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« Reply #189 on: January 26, 2010, 07:48:59 AM »
Well my local team and a rather famous name in Dutch football has officially gone belly up.
http://voetbal.nos.nl/nieuws/artikel/ID/tcm:45-641809/

Its the usual tale of mismanagement and money pissed away on preparing for a new stadium. What makes it worse is that there are possibly another 3 clubs also on the brink of bankrupty here and I would not be at all surprised is FC Eindhoven and Fortuna Sittard don't make it through the season.

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« Reply #190 on: January 26, 2010, 04:48:10 PM »
Palace have just gone into administration

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« Reply #191 on: January 26, 2010, 05:02:37 PM »
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Palace have just gone into administration

BBC story

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« Reply #192 on: January 26, 2010, 05:05:22 PM »
Quote from: "pdiddybaby"
Quote from: "1_Pablo_Angel"
They probably thought the cash came straight from Gaydamak a la Abramovich, rather than short term bank loans secured against the club.


maybe they should have questioned it better,  did Pompey never publish any accounts ?


Even if they did, what good would it do.  Once somebody buys a club, you're totally at their mercy.  If Randy decided to go on a mad spree and saddle us with ridiculous debts a la Leeds, there's nothing we could do to stop him.  Looking at the accounts wouldn't help much seeing as they're not produced until a year after the event.

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« Reply #193 on: January 26, 2010, 05:13:50 PM »
Quote from: "NeilH"
Well my local team and a rather famous name in Dutch football has officially gone belly up.
http://voetbal.nos.nl/nieuws/artikel/ID/tcm:45-641809/

Its the usual tale of mismanagement and money pissed away on preparing for a new stadium. What makes it worse is that there are possibly another 3 clubs also on the brink of bankrupty here and I would not be at all surprised is FC Eindhoven and Fortuna Sittard don't make it through the season.


http://www.nrc.nl/international/article2468486.ece/Haarlem_football_club_goes_bankrupt?  (in english)

wow!   100 years of history, gone.....

Palace will reincarnate and continue with new owners - but.. R.I.P Haarlem

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« Reply #194 on: January 26, 2010, 05:18:01 PM »
Quote from: "cyrilina"
Quote from: "NeilH"
Well my local team and a rather famous name in Dutch football has officially gone belly up.
http://voetbal.nos.nl/nieuws/artikel/ID/tcm:45-641809/

Its the usual tale of mismanagement and money pissed away on preparing for a new stadium. What makes it worse is that there are possibly another 3 clubs also on the brink of bankrupty here and I would not be at all surprised is FC Eindhoven and Fortuna Sittard don't make it through the season.


http://www.nrc.nl/international/article2468486.ece/Haarlem_football_club_goes_bankrupt?  (in english)

wow!   100 years of history, gone.....

Palace will reincarnate and continue with new owners - but.. R.I.P Haarlem


Palace aren’t going bump, hence why they’ve gone into administration and not liquidation.

 


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