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[Legion]

Earlier in this thread, I posted a 'theory' from somewhere that his wife (Nancy) killed his son so he killed his wife when he found out then hung himself (through grief?).

[Chris Smith]

It's weird that this twat is getting a more sympathetic reception than the McCann's did on this site.

[Lizz]

It's weird that this twat is getting a more sympathetic reception than the McCann's did on this site.

Not necessarily, imo.  It's 2 different cases, like comparing apples and oranges.  One possible interpretation [eg, mine ], by killing himself, in a roundabout way, he has at least admitted his guilt - which the McCanns haven't, they've glossed over/rewritten history concerning their lack of parental responsibility.

[OCD]

Asphyxiation is a crime of passion. Are you really going to believe a fomer leader of the KKK that someone stayed in someone's house for over 48 hours, slowly killing 3 people off one by one? There would be a significant possibility that someone could call by and raise an alarm. Then there would be the forensics - finger prints, hairs etc. Assuming that the police do their jobs properly (and this is a high profile case), do you know how difficult it is to murder and make it look like a double homicide and suicide.

Given the KKK connections it wouldn't surprise me if this Kevin Sullivan was black. Face facts, Benoit killed his family and then committed suicide. This sounds like someone who was a big fan of Benoit and is in so much denial that they've found someone to put the blame onto.

If your looking to make sense out of madness, a plausible explanation would be that Benoit suffered from clinical depression, wanted to commit suicide but didn't want to leave his family or cause them lasting pain. To any sane person this sounds crazy but these can be the thoughts of someone who has lost sense of reality.

[Chris Smith]

It's weird that this twat is getting a more sympathetic reception than the McCann's did on this site.

Not necessarily, imo.  It's 2 different cases, like comparing apples and oranges.  One possible interpretation [eg, mine ], by killing himself, in a roundabout way, he has at least admitted his guilt - which the McCanns haven't, they've glossed over/rewritten history concerning their lack of parental responsibility.

You're right they are different cases. One of them is allegedly guilty of a double murder and one of them is allegedly guilty of negligence. It seems negligence is therefore a more heinous crime than murder, what a fucked up world some people inhabit.

[OzVilla]

It's weird that this twat is getting a more sympathetic reception than the McCann's did on this site.

Not necessarily, imo.  It's 2 different cases, like comparing apples and oranges.  One possible interpretation [eg, mine ], by killing himself, in a roundabout way, he has at least admitted his guilt - which the McCanns haven't, they've glossed over/rewritten history concerning their lack of parental responsibility.

I think your 'interpretation' only highlights your warped state of mind as opposed to anyone else's.

So a man kills his wife and son in a horrific killing and you still somehow get the line 'atleast he admitted his guilt' in there as oppossed to the McCanns.

There has been plenty of McCann baiting going on here the last few weeks (largely to no one's credit that's why I've not read anymore) but this is stretching any logic to breaking point.

[Bloke@theback]

It's weird that this twat is getting a more sympathetic reception than the McCann's did on this site.

Not necessarily, imo.  It's 2 different cases, like comparing apples and oranges.  One possible interpretation [eg, mine ], by killing himself, in a roundabout way, he has at least admitted his guilt - which the McCanns haven't, they've glossed over/rewritten history concerning their lack of parental responsibility.

You're right they are different cases. One of them is allegedly guilty of a double murder and one of them is allegedly guilty of negligence. It seems negligence is therefore a more heinous crime than murder, what a fucked up world some people inhabit.

You're right Chris. I will defend professional wrestling as a form of entertainment against the "it's fake" debate (Lets not start it again !).

But there is no defence for what Benoit has done...

[Lizz]

I think your 'interpretation' only highlights your warped state of mind as opposed to anyone else's.

I'm relatively pleased you clarified your posting with the words 'I think'.  I think too, obviously differently to you.  This is a discussion board, people have different opinions.  

Continuing the thinking theme, I think I'm relatively flattered to be diagnosed as 'warped' by someone on an internet message board.  To summarise, based on someone having an opinion not in agreement with yours, you are able to make a rational diagnosis of that person's state of mind [not unlike those of us making judgements based on no personal knowledge of this case, merely on the spin the media has elected to publicise the case]?

[OneIanTaylor]

It is hard to see why Benoit would kill his son.

Maybe he told his daddy that he was a big whoopsie for wearing tights on TV.

[peter w]

If it was a wrestler who did the killings it would take 3 days. Probably climbed up the curtains and jumped of the top onto his wife and kid landing with his forearm just about touching their heads.

[dean_saunders_superstar]

Right now i am probs going to get stick for this but i respect the WRESTLER Chris Benoit! I don't the man that killed his wife and kid but as a wrestler he was one of the best as a man not one of the best! Think Paul McGrath on the pitch GOD off it didn't know what to do he didn't go as far as Benoit but its the same!

RIP Nancy and Daniel
and rest in Peace Chris Benoit!

On a side note WWE have removed every mention part from the main headline of Chris and as said by OCD looks like one of the greatest won't have a place in the Hall Of Fame where he belongs!

A sad day for wrestling

You are allowed to remember Chris Benoit as a skilled performer. You don't have to think of him with hatred, whatever disgusting acts he carried out at the end of his life.

However (and some Chris Benoit fans are missing this), there is no escaping his responsibility for the death of his wife and child. Ultimately he chose to murder them. The impact of drugs given the timescale and methods of the attacks indicate at best minimal influence, and regardless of this it was his choice to take drugs. Roid rage may have played a part, but if it had, it's unlikely to be the first time he's encountered it.

[itbrvilla]

Briefly heard something on the news on radio 1 about new evidence coming to light on the internet which doesn't fit it with the investigation.  Didn't catch what it was maybe a video or something.  Any one hear this?

[OCD]

Briefly heard something on the news on radio 1 about new evidence coming to light on the internet which doesn't fit it with the investigation.  Didn't catch what it was maybe a video or something.  Any one hear this?

Anything like this?

Benoit wrestle hold killed son

WRESTLER Chris Benoit murdered his seven-year-old son with his WWE finishing move, police have said.

Cops in Georgia are speculating that Benoit, 40, ended Daniel's life with a version of the Crippler Crossface hold the morning after strangling his wife Nancy, 43, to death. Later that day Benoit committed suicide.

The Crippler Crossface was a move Benoit used in almost all his wrestling matches, including when he beat Triple H for the heavyweight title at WrestleMania XX.

Police were originally confused by bruising on the young lad that wouldn't have been there had he been strangled.

Then an officer watched a wrestling tape, quickly realising that the marks on Daniel's body matched the application of a version the Crossface.

The version Chris used in WWE rings involved him placing an arm of a floored opponent between his legs before locking his hands around their face and pulling back to stretch their neck.

In the context of a wrestling match the move was lightly applied, with Benoit's foe 'selling' it with his facials to make it look like he was really hurt.

District Attorney Scott Ballard said: "A choke hold was used to strangle the boy, rather than hands, because there's no bruising consistent with strangulation by hands."

Respected American wrestling writer Dave Meltzer added: "There was bruising consistent with the Crippler Crossface on one arm and Daniel's face. There were no bruises on his neck

"The police don't believe, because of the size difference, that the hold was applied exactly as it would be in a pro wrestling match.

"Benoit would have been in more of a kneeling position, sort of straddling Daniel while using one leg to pull back on his arm."

More details of what turned a quiet man into a killer are also emerging.

Chris's mental state deteriorated after the recent deaths of grappling pals Eddie Guerrero, Mike 'Johnny Grunge' Durham and Victor 'Black Cat' Mar.

They came on the back of the loss of other friends in the business including Brian Pillman, British Bulldog Davey Boy Smith, Owen Hart and Brian Hildebrand - as well as his trainer and mentor Stu Hart.

He was also becoming increasingly paranoid and deluded due to a lethal mix of steroids, pain killers, anti-depressants and the medication he was taking for his blood pressure brought on by decades of steroid abuse.

The full results of a toxicology (blood) test is still several weeks away.

Meltzer - who has spent a week speaking to police and Chris's friends for his Wrestling Observer publication - concludes that is unfair to point the figure at the wrestling industry or steroids.

But he adds: "An absolutely horrible question to deal with in this situation, as well as many of the other deaths of wrestlers, is would these young men and women still be alive if they were never pro wrestlers or tied to another profession?

"Perhaps in some circumstances, the answer is no.

"But looking on this case, and going back to people who I knew very well and talked with regularly, who are no longer alive, if they had never gotten into wrestling, I can't help but believe with all my heart, that every one of them would still be alive."

[doubleD]

According to further reports, he killed his wife on Saturday, his son on Sunday and himself on Monday.

Well listening to Craig David is enough to drive anyone crazy.

 =D> made me smile

as long as he wasn't making love by tuesday though, and on wednesday, thursday and friday [-X

[bobcat]

WWE Smackdown - Edge is injured and unlikely to defend his title on Sunday. Talk of a Battle Royal for the vacant title and a Rey Mysterio or Kennedy return!