Aston Villa 2 Crystal Palace 2. Post Match Thread.

[jon collett]

Urgent hunt underway for hit-and-run driver 'who  ploughed into fans'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-14120745/Urgent-hunt-underway-hit-run-driver-deliberately-ploughed-fans-outside-Villa-Park-fled.html

[Somniloquism]

Urgent hunt underway for hit-and-run driver 'who  ploughed into fans'

Was he reversing?

[RamboandBruno]

Me and my kids got a glimpse of this from afar, although didn't realise people were actually hit. The car was trying to get out of the side road that faces the Wittin Arms, but the road was obviously mobbed with supporters. He pushed forwards over aggressively and loads of supporters started shouting at him, he then put his foot on the gas and bombed forwards onto the main road turning left and loads of people started chasing after him. He absolutely could of killed people.

[JUAN PABLO]

Who won on xG?

Aston glorius Villa   3. 18       palace  1.27   

[VillaTim]

Urgent hunt underway for hit-and-run driver 'who  ploughed into fans'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-14120745/Urgent-hunt-underway-hit-run-driver-deliberately-ploughed-fans-outside-Villa-Park-fled.html

Surely that will be captured on CCTV

[eamonn]

Who won on xG?

Aston glorius Villa   3. 18       palace  1.27   

Really? Get in!

[eamonn]

At least Mings has got a bit of pace to get himself back in to position, unlike Torres. We need to go back to basics and stop conceding goals. Torres is absolutely dreadful at that part of the game.

Its a conundrum though, as Torres is also integral to how Emery wants to play and also integral to our best league finish in nearly 39 years. As much as I love Mings and he is better at the basics if defending, he doesn’t possess the ability to beat the press that Torres gives us. We don’t score our first goal yesterday without Torres, we don’t score the goal against Bayern, there are loads of examples.
Could he try Mings and Torres together perhaps?
You can’t drop Torres for me and we have to instead be harder to break through in midfield. Lets see where we are once Kamara and Onana are back up and running.

39 years? We finished 2nd twice and 4th once in the last 34 years.

[PeterWithe]

Me and my kids got a glimpse of this from afar, although didn't realise people were actually hit. The car was trying to get out of the side road that faces the Wittin Arms, but the road was obviously mobbed with supporters. He pushed forwards over aggressively and loads of supporters started shouting at him, he then put his foot on the gas and bombed forwards onto the main road turning left and loads of people started chasing after him. He absolutely could of killed people.

I was going to ask about this, the fella, in a black Jag 4x4 continued to drive like a wanker as he overtook stationary cars on the wrong side of the road going up Witton Rd with loads of people chasing him as he tried to get away. Really could have been carnage.

As we always walk down that way, worth noting that there was an event on on the old tram station, guessing someone had been there, had a few and forgot there would be thousands outside at that time.

[RamboandBruno]

At least Mings has got a bit of pace to get himself back in to position, unlike Torres. We need to go back to basics and stop conceding goals. Torres is absolutely dreadful at that part of the game.

Its a conundrum though, as Torres is also integral to how Emery wants to play and also integral to our best league finish in nearly 39 years. As much as I love Mings and he is better at the basics if defending, he doesn’t possess the ability to beat the press that Torres gives us. We don’t score our first goal yesterday without Torres, we don’t score the goal against Bayern, there are loads of examples.
Could he try Mings and Torres together perhaps?
You can’t drop Torres for me and we have to instead be harder to break through in midfield. Lets see where we are once Kamara and Onana are back up and running.

39 years? We finished 2nd twice and 4th once in the last 34 years.

Sorry tupo, was meant to say 29 years, 94-95 and all that

[VillaTim]

Attendance not released again i see.

[Somniloquism]

Attendance not released again i see.

They haven't done it for a couple of years, so why would they suddenly make an exception for yesterday.

[VillaTim]

attendances are there confirmed for the other recent home games

[pelty]

We've been predictable for ages.  Like Man City are predictable.  It's one thing knowing what's coming and being able to stop it.  I'm convinced the issue isn't structural, it's too many players being off form or injured at the same time. I'm backing us to beat Juventus and get a result v Chelsea. 

Teams aren't struggling to stop it though, that's the point. And we've been crap defensively for most of 2024. It's structural. Our main defender in Torres is great on the ball, but is a fairly mediocre defender. That's a big problem.

Torres is the elephant in the room. The sooner we have Konsa/Mings back in the middle the better .

100% The love Torres gets from some baffles me. An average defender at best who sometimes - and I mean sometimes - makes the sublime pass. I guess I am old school, but I prefer my defenders defend first and foremost.

[Holte132]

attendances are there confirmed for the other recent home games

It seems we have to wait for the next home programme to find out what the attendance was for the previous game