Aston Villa 2 Crystal Palace 2. Post Match Thread.

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Would also add that the 1st goal has Maatsen on the same line as Ollie. I don't feel like we've been able to do that as much of late, as we lose possession a bit too readily.

[Percy McCarthy]

Torres is a class act not playing to his normal levels but still effective as seen by the goals he creates (R Madrid) and playing out from the back although he has been sloppy of late
We have no other centre back that can do it, none

He’s a great footballing centre-half but a few goals created doesn’t get anywhere near compensating for how much better the Konsa/Mings partnership is at preventing goals against. He’d have to be on about 25 assists a season to make up for that.

8 goals conceded in their last 15 games together, 7 clean sheets.

[ChicagoLion]

Torres is a class act not playing to his normal levels but still effective as seen by the goals he creates (R Madrid) and playing out from the back although he has been sloppy of late
We have no other centre back that can do it, none

He’s a great footballing centre-half but a few goals created doesn’t get anywhere near compensating for how much better the Konsa/Mings partnership is at preventing goals against. He’d have to be on about 25 assists a season to make up for that.

8 goals conceded in their last 15 games together, 7 clean sheets.

I agree, the occasional incisive pass does not cover the defensive frailty.

[malckennedy]

I’m not at all convinced that had the CB partnership yesterday have been Konsa & Mings, rather than Carlos and Torres, that either of their two goals would have been prevented.

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Mings and Konsa or McGrath and Beckenbaur would still have left without a midfield screen on almost every Palace attack.

[The Edge]

I'm still bloody annoyed with Tielemans over his penalty. It was piss poor. Not enough paceon it and at the perfect height further keeper to save it. Smash that in and keep it tight at the back and we go into the break 2-1 up. Instead we went in 2-1 down and struggled our way to a draw at home against a really poor Palace team. Very annoying to say the least.

[malckennedy]

Mings and Konsa or McGrath and Beckenbaur would still have left without a midfield screen on almost every Palace attack.

Exactly.

[jon collett]

I'm still bloody annoyed with Tielemans over his penalty. It was piss poor. Not enough paceon it and at the perfect height further keeper to save it. Smash that in and keep it tight at the back and we go into the break 2-1 up. Instead we went in 2-1 down and struggled our way to a draw at home against a really poor Palace team. Very annoying to say the least.

I’m still annoyed the chap next to me exclaimed “Oh God!” Before he hit it. As soon as he said it I thought that’s jinxed it!

[Monty]

Mings and Konsa or McGrath and Beckenbaur would still have left without a midfield screen on almost every Palace attack.

This is indeed It.

[Demitri_C]

Mings and Konsa or McGrath and Beckenbaur would still have left without a midfield screen on almost every Palace attack.

Great point that i agree with. Enzo would have been handy about now

[Skerra]

As an aside, did you see all the empty seats yesterday? This is what’s going to happen when CL prices are so ridiculous. A lot of people can’t afford those matches and league games as well. If Heck had just been sensible regarding the CL prices, I think we would have had very few, if any, empty seats for the league matches. Put the 2 together and the club, overall, are not making any extra money plus, not a good look for our PL games with so many gaps.

[olaftab]

There was poor turnout from Palace but I reckon there were at least 500 empty seats in upper Trinity alone. Probably GA+ seats.

[eamonn]

Who won on xG?

[Chris Smith]

Torres is a class act not playing to his normal levels but still effective as seen by the goals he creates (R Madrid) and playing out from the back although he has been sloppy of late
We have no other centre back that can do it, none

He’s a great footballing centre-half but a few goals created doesn’t get anywhere near compensating for how much better the Konsa/Mings partnership is at preventing goals against. He’d have to be on about 25 assists a season to make up for that.

8 goals conceded in their last 15 games together, 7 clean sheets.

I agree to an extent but the best centre backs in the world would struggle with the ease with which teams run through us on the counter attack. To me, that’s where the issues are and until we fix that then it’s difficult to judge.

[Risso]

At least Mings has got a bit of pace to get himself back in to position, unlike Torres. We need to go back to basics and stop conceding goals. Torres is absolutely dreadful at that part of the game.