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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on November 27, 2025, 07:48:29 PM
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Never in doubt.
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Played well first half. Malen class again, has to start now.
Jon done.
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Never in doubt.
You always say that. I'm sick of winning by the skin of our teeth. It can't last... Bring back the chastening defeats.
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Win’s a win, but blimey we make a hard slog of some of these European games. Lovely finishes from Malen.
Guessand, I really hope it’s confidence, but at the moment he doesn’t appear to have anything except he works hard.
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Played well first half. Malen class again, has to start now.
Jon done.
Who is Jon, I hoper he's better soon.
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3 points, no damage done, extra minutes in some legs, Harvey sighted. All good.
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Guessand, I really hope it’s confidence, but at the moment he doesn’t appear to have anything except he works hard.
Which makes him one better than Sancho
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Joint top (second behind Midtjylland who lost their first game of the tournament).
Braga and Lyon can go above us (joint on points) and they are playing away to Rangers and Maccabi respectively.
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Sancho was alright imo, far better than Guessand.
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About 90% of our attacks broke down with Sancho. He’s skilful but end product is non-existent.
Malen and Rogers together is exciting
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Sancho was alright imo, far better than Guessand.
Agreed. Sancho actually tried to do something on the ball.
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Guessand, I really hope it’s confidence, but at the moment he doesn’t appear to have anything except he works hard.
Which makes him one better than Sancho
Sancho was light years ahead of Guessand
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Guessand, I really hope it’s confidence, but at the moment he doesn’t appear to have anything except he works hard.
Which makes him one better than Sancho
It doesn’t. Sancho tried to do something attacking.
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What was t'crowd?
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We're a funny team/squad. So many players that don't look up to it or are out of form. Yet we win practically every game we play.
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Played well for 60 mins then unnecessarily sloppy at the end to make it a little twitchy.
Now let's smash Barcahampton on Sunday.
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Guessand, I really hope it’s confidence, but at the moment he doesn’t appear to have anything except he works hard.
Which makes him one better than Sancho
It doesn’t. Sancho tried to do something attacking.
He did but to my eye at least, achieved absolutely nothing.
I don’t think either have offered anything all season. Including against some really poor teams.
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We won that game by a big toe when we should have won it by at least six goals.
Goal difference could be important in reaching top 8 and this was our best chance.
A win is a win but flustrating to watch.
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We definitely need more from Sancho but he's a much bigger threat than Guessand. More chance i'd score or assist than him and i'm at home.
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We won that game by a big toe when we should have won it by at least six goals.
Well we would have done had Malen stayed on.
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We definitely need more from Sancho but he's a much bigger threat than Guessand. More chance i'd score or assist than him and i'm at home.
I want to distance myself from any suggestion that I was praising Guessand. I just wanted to shine a light on Sancho’s lack of effort off the ball.
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Apparently the YBs fans hit Malen with a Toblerone. Those jagged edges are dangerous. Pricks.
(https://i.ibb.co/fY75x1c4/IMG-8438.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fY75x1c4)
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Apparently the YBs fans hit Malen with a Toblerone. Those jagged edges are dangerous. Pricks.
At least it wasn't an alphorn.
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Sancho was alright imo, far better than Guessand.
Aye, Guessand again did very little and looked afraid to shoot.
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That was much harder than it should have been, apart from Ollie's effort, can't remember us really testing their goalie second half, but an important 3 points. Instead of Ollie I would play The Don upfront on Sunday.
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That was much harder than it should have been, apart from Ollie's effort, can't remember us really testing their goalie second half, but an important 3 points. Instead of Ollie I would play The Don upfront on Sunday.
Agree mate.
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I thought we looked comfortable for the the first 80 minutes without getting out of first gear, also using a lot of squad players getting valuale playing time.
Points in the bag, job done.
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That was much harder than it should have been, apart from Ollie's effort, can't remember us really testing their goalie second half, but an important 3 points. Instead of Ollie I would play The Don upfront on Sunday.
Agree mate.
I’m shocked.
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That was much harder than it should have been, apart from Ollie's effort, can't remember us really testing their goalie second half, but an important 3 points. Instead of Ollie I would play The Don upfront on Sunday.
Agree mate.
I’m shocked.
You must agree though surely. Can't keep starting Watkins when Malen is playing like this.
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Excellent first half. Not as good second half but we did enough to win the game. A bit concerning that the subs didn’t step up.
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That was much harder than it should have been, apart from Ollie's effort, can't remember us really testing their goalie second half, but an important 3 points. Instead of Ollie I would play The Don upfront on Sunday.
Agree mate.
I’m shocked.
You must agree though surely. Can't keep starting Watkins when Malen is playing like this.
Yeah I don’t mind Don starting against Wolves. But against good opposition I think his hold up play needs work or he needs to play off a main striker.
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Sancho was alright imo, far better than Guessand.
Both were awful.
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Did anyone stay much past the end? I left more or less bang on final whistle as didn’t want to keep my lift waiting but it seemed like the YB players didn't go over to clap their twatty fans. Fair play, if so.
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Our bench was like a second starting 11 tonight, probably as strong if not stronger than the 11 on the pitch.
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That was much harder than it should have been, apart from Ollie's effort, can't remember us really testing their goalie second half, but an important 3 points. Instead of Ollie I would play The Don upfront on Sunday.
Agree mate.
I’m shocked.
You must agree though surely. Can't keep starting Watkins when Malen is playing like this.
He’ll start on Sunday even if to just wear the ‘heads down and Malen to finish them off. I just hope he finds a way to score.
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Blimey, it’s been a few years since I’ve witnessed crowd trouble like that. Has Malen got some sort of history versus Young Boys? He certainly made a point of going over to them.
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Complacency is what we served up tonight. We are much better than them, we knew it, they knew it and our better players decided a half arsed performance would suffice. They were right. Even so, Morgan Rogers, work on your passing, the assist for Malen’s 2nd apart was awful. Sancho, tried but was wasteful when it mattered. Guessand, the Afcon can’t come quick enough. He’s just not very good, he’s not even good, average or has potential. There is nothing there I see, that says , he could be great with a bit of coaching. Nah.
Malen MOM. I’m starting to feel sorry for Watkins, he’s in a bad place at the moment. Malen is our main man now for me. It’s up to Ollie to convince us otherwise.
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Probably the worst trouble in Villa Park for over 30 years - if not longer. Seats on the pitch, players bottled, coppers fighting fans… what will their punishment be?
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Purring first half and early second. Some of the best football we've played this season.
Wonder if Moussa D is bored enough playing part time football and fancies plugging a gap for us. He plays tonight and we bag 3-4 goals in that opening period and put the game to bed.
Doesn't have to be him, ofc.
But ideally -as a team with aspirations to win this comp and do well domestically- we might want some sort of attacking threat out wide on at least one flank. Not too much to ask is it.
The Guessman and Sancho aren't going to provide that, as they've illustrated time again. Close to the midway point of the season now. Excuses are running out for the pair of them.
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Good win even if it should have been more comfortable than it was. Went sloppy once all the subs came on. Malen looking very sharp. He'll start on Sunday.
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Did anyone stay much past the end? I left more or less bang on final whistle as didn’t want to keep my lift waiting but it seemed like the YB players didn't go over to clap their twatty fans. Fair play, if so.
They did go over to their fans after the game, it took a while to get out of the North Stand.
It took even longer to get in, we missed the first 15 after spending 2 hours to get there from Worcester, and when we got there late the brains trust decided to only have 1 turnstile open for late comers, I hope we never have a 5.45pm home game again.
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Ah, boo. Cheers for reply.
And yes, ridiculous kick-off.
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Thought we largely played well but obviously you have to take into consideration the opposition. Malen helps speed our game up because of his pace. He deserves to start against Wolves to see what he can do in the premier league although the quality level between tonight’s opposition and Wolves is probably negligible.
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Should have scored a lot more goals, but we have been twatting them in from all over the place lately so can't complain too much.
Got the win, relatively comfortably, edging ever closer to the last sixteen. A few players got a bit of a rest. Nobody got injured.
That'll do.
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Strange one really. Were completely in control for most of the game and really should have scored a few more, but ended up getting a warning shot with their disallowed goal and then conceded a goal which made things a bit tighter than they should have been (though didn't really think they threatened again).
The behaviour of their fans just added to the strange feeling of the game.
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They were as poor as Go Ahead, but at least we won this one. It really should have been far more comfortable as the game was so one sided for the most part. Our attacking threat waned with the subs although I've no idea how Guessamd stayed on.
Watkins still looks well off scoring. I thought when he was put through he should have scored comfortbaly, but it went tamely at the keeper, unless the angle from my seat deceived me.
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Thought we played well first half, looked sharp and threatening. Quieter second half but all good in the end.
We do have a seriously good squad these days with the majority of them fit and Konsa, Rogers and Malen in particular in great form we have some happy days ahead. Our home record is bloody marvellous.
Special mention to the Young Boys fans, what a bunch of massive pricks.
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We’re not clinical enough in the box, we have a problem in scoring goals
not just the actual shooters ie Watkins and Malen but the creators are also just as wasteful with to many sloppy balls (ooh Matron) being played
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We’re not clinical enough in the box, we have a problem in scoring goals
not just the actual shooters ie Watkins and Malen but the creators are also just as wasteful with to many sloppy balls (ooh Matron) being played
I'm not sure how true this is. We clearly started the season badly but since we scored our first against Brentford in the cup the only game we haven't scored in was away at Liverpool, that's 13 games out of 14. In those 14 games we've scored 26 goals, so nearly 2 a game on average. That's a very decent return and, over a season, would see us pushing towards 100 goals in all competitions, which would be an incredible return given we've had many season in the past 30 years where we've struggled to manage 50.
We can do better, we can all see that some of the team are a little shot shy, but I don't think it's fair to suggest we have a problem scoring goals right now.
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I'm hoping that Guessand and Sancho played the full 90+10 minutes on account of the likelihood that they won't be playing any more minutes any time soon.
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Blimey, it’s been a few years since I’ve witnessed crowd trouble like that. Has Malen got some sort of history versus Young Boys? He certainly made a point of going over to them.
The Don stirred up a bit on his Instagram too, saying “Nice kick about with some Young Boys”
I watched as much as I could at work which wasn’t a lot, bits I did see first half, Malen looked electric, pace to burn and causing havoc all over the front line. Looking forward to watching it tonight.
Also, I see the crowd was only 32,000 and yeah it’s a shit time for a KO but 10,000 off capacity, bit surprised to be honest.
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There is one guy clearly throwing punches at the police.
He should be lifted at the airport.
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A decent hour and then shit.
The last 30 mins were abysmal. Young Boys were really not very good, lower Championship standard at best, yet we allowed them to dominate us in the last half hour.
I thought Malen and Maatsen were very good, Tielemans and Onana glided through the game.
Guessand was awful. He helps out defensively, but is very poor going forward.
Sancho looked interested, which was useful.
I worry for Ollie though. How much of his constant fluffing of chances is bad luck, and how much is down to him being in decline? It’s been going on for too long to be a blip.
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Their fans after the 2nd
https://x.com/Jeynese10/status/1994113254335955387
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Their fans after the 2nd
https://x.com/Jeynese10/status/1994113254335955387
You do wonder how hard it is, to lift (I counted) 3 maybe 4 blokes throwing punches?
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Their fans after the 2nd
https://x.com/Jeynese10/status/1994113254335955387
You do wonder how hard it is, to lift (I counted) 3 maybe 4 blokes throwing punches?
The main one who was doing most of the punching then walked away would have been nicked within minutes if it was a domestic match.
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Routine win, no injuries & squad players got some minutes.
As for Guessand, he somehow gets worse the worse the opposition.
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Why do you think that is? Just not wanting the media headlines?
Operationally, you don't have the opportunity to just film and then give them the 6 o'clock knock in a month, in Switzerland
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Wouldn't be surprised if they are lifted at the airport.
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Blimey, it’s been a few years since I’ve witnessed crowd trouble like that. Has Malen got some sort of history versus Young Boys? He certainly made a point of going over to them.
The Don stirred up a bit on his Instagram too, saying “Nice kick about with some Young Boys”
I watched as much as I could at work which wasn’t a lot, bits I did see first half, Malen looked electric, pace to burn and causing havoc all over the front line. Looking forward to watching it tonight.
Also, I see the crowd was only 32,000 and yeah it’s a shit time for a KO but 10,000 off capacity, bit surprised to be honest.
Daft time for k.o. There will be loads put off as they needed to get off work , school early….my lad was one, couldn’t take him, we live 2hrs away.
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We’re not clinical enough in the box, we have a problem in scoring goals
not just the actual shooters ie Watkins and Malen but the creators are also just as wasteful with to many sloppy balls (ooh Matron) being played
It doesn't matter we won the game and was completely in control. Unai's perfect game is 0-0 and then we score in the 91st minute. We are never going to be a team that smashes Opposition teams all the time.
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We’re not clinical enough in the box, we have a problem in scoring goals
not just the actual shooters ie Watkins and Malen but the creators are also just as wasteful with to many sloppy balls (ooh Matron) being played
It doesn't matter we won the game and was completely in control. Unai's perfect game is 0-0 and then we score in the 91st minute. We are never going to be a team that smashes Opposition teams all the time.
But in this game there were no tactical upheavals needed to smash this opposition, we got to the 'kill zone' time and time again, we just needed to be more professional in front of goal. I was a bit disappointed that the players didnt seem unhappy with the amount of opportunities they scorned.
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Wouldn't be surprised if they are lifted at the airport.
Bern's a small airport so they could be flying from anywhere in England, to anywhere in Switzerland, via anywhere in Western Europe.
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Funny old night. Completely dominant for about 70 minutes and should have been out of sight but their disallowed goal seemed to change things. Not that they had too many chances other than the one they scored. I don't think I've ever seen trouble like that at VP. Bunch of twats. I hope their fans get banned.
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A decent hour and then shit.
The last 30 mins were abysmal. Young Boys were really not very good, lower Championship standard at best, yet we allowed them to dominate us in the last half hour.
I thought Malen and Maatsen were very good, Tielemans and Onana glided through
I had a ticket for the game and booked the afternoon off but only got out of the office in London at 7pm and caught the last 30 in the pub. I thought Maatsen looked decent going forward but was caught out for the disallowed goal and was also caught napping a few times in our own box. I don’t yet trust him as a defender.
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Their fans after the 2nd
https://x.com/Jeynese10/status/1994113254335955387
You do wonder how hard it is, to lift (I counted) 3 maybe 4 blokes throwing punches?
The bloke front and centre of it all threw about 6 punches in that clip. A couple of their fans did get led away and wonder if he was one of them
The main one who was doing most of the punching then walked away would have been nicked within minutes if it was a domestic match.
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You really get the sense that he has a plan for each player and in games like these, outside of winning, he mostly wants to see them progress in particular aspects of their roles.
I can't tell what progress there was to see from Guessand, mind - but that's why he's the manager and not me.
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You really get the sense that he has a plan for each player and in games like these, outside of winning, he mostly wants to see them progress in particular aspects of their roles.
I can't tell what progress there was to see from Guessand, mind - but that's why he's the manager and not me.
I am wondering what Guessand’s role is…taking the heat off Sancho ?
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Comfortable win and a decent performance for 60 odd minutes. I was left frustrated by our lack of cutting edge after going 2-0 up though. It really could have cost us badly at the end. Another poor display by our two wide players against very average opposition. Surely Malen now starts against Wolves, hopefully alongside Watkins. Our form is fantastic but we seem to have so many problems with our forward players.
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We’re not clinical enough in the box, we have a problem in scoring goals
not just the actual shooters ie Watkins and Malen but the creators are also just as wasteful with to many sloppy balls (ooh Matron) being played
It doesn't matter we won the game and was completely in control. Unai's perfect game is 0-0 and then we score in the 91st minute. We are never going to be a team that smashes Opposition teams all the time.
But in this game there were no tactical upheavals needed to smash this opposition, we got to the 'kill zone' time and time again, we just needed to be more professional in front of goal. I was a bit disappointed that the players didnt seem unhappy with the amount of opportunities they scorned.
Considering how we started the season I'm happy creating chances, scoring goals and winning games.
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Really strange atmosphere, 40 mins before KO the Holte concourse was all but deserted with the long concession counter closed. I have to say I preferred the early KO due to the time I got home but know loads of people who couldn't make it.
I'm with most on here expressing frustration at the dip in performance but I don't think the Manager will lose any sleep and it will be job done as far as he is concerned but a couple of mistakes/bad decisions could turn everything upside down in a game like that.
As for their fans, shit behaviour but it did liven up a low key night I suppose.
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Happy to have missed their goal, app breakdown. Should have won by several but again the only times they got forward they caused problems. Not playing that well but still winning says a lot.
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3-0 and its a very comfortable coast through to the end of the match. Being ultra critical, it should have been done and dusted at half time, without the need for the mild panic in the last few minutes.
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They were so poor like Go Ahead, we switched off any sort of intensity and pressure.
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Bogarde was caught napping badly for their goal. Torres fortunate enough for the other one, was in no man's land really. This competition is only likely to liven up when it gets to the knock outs. Some minutes into the legs of fringe players and Malen getting the goals. I'm not sure what else you can take from these games,. Nowhere near the intensity of PL.
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We’re not clinical enough in the box, we have a problem in scoring goals
not just the actual shooters ie Watkins and Malen but the creators are also just as wasteful with to many sloppy balls (ooh Matron) being played
It doesn't matter we won the game and was completely in control. Unai's perfect game is 0-0 and then we score in the 91st minute. We are never going to be a team that smashes Opposition teams all the time.
Of course it matters
We are 3rd because of goal difference
We missed out on champions league football because of goal difference
in the game last night we were wasteful in front of goal and squandered opportunities, I’m just saying we’ve got to be more clinical in forward areas
I know after a win if you say the slightest thing it’s jumped on as if you’ve turned up with a turd in a bun to a party but you have to learn from every game
I know Unai dissects every minute of the games to improve, it’s not being negative it’s pushing forward demanding to be better (as the great man himself would say)
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We were too busty trying to get Malen his hat-trick or Ollie to score. It could have cost us. Unai will no doubt be pointing that out.
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Bogarde was caught napping badly for their goal. Torres fortunate enough for the other one, was in no man's land really. This competition is only likely to liven up when it gets to the knock outs. Some minutes into the legs of fringe players and Malen getting the goals. I'm not sure what else you can take from these games,. Nowhere near the intensity of PL.
Well Torres was on the bench so could well be classed as no-mans land, not sure how he was supposed to stop the chance from there though.
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We were too busty trying to get Malen his hat-trick or Ollie to score. It could have cost us. Unai will no doubt be pointing that out.
We nearly made tits of ourselves.
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Dropped a boob there!
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Typical. Someone makes an innocent mistake and out come all the knockers.
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He'll get plenty of chances to get more goals with all the December matches. Areola at West Ham looks very wobbly in particular.
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Can we nip this in the bud please
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Can we nip this in the bud please
I think it’s for the breast.
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We were too busty trying to get Malen his hat-trick or Ollie to score. It could have cost us. Unai will no doubt be pointing that out.
Yea agree, the whole team looked desperate for Ollie to score. Sancho (who despite the fact I don’t think is that good played well I thought last night), had a really good opportunity to shoot, but tried to play Watkins in through the eye of a needle.
Anyway, strange k/o time, flat atmosphere apart from their idiots, felt like a training game. On to the dogheads.
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I just hope in the next game we go for the jugular.
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Mods. Please move this thread to Villa mammaries section.
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We were too busty trying to get Malen his hat-trick or Ollie to score. It could have cost us. Unai will no doubt be pointing that out.
Too front heavy?
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Funny old night. Completely dominant for about 70 minutes and should have been out of sight but their disallowed goal seemed to change things. Not that they had too many chances other than the one they scored. I don't think I've ever seen trouble like that at VP. Bunch of twats. I hope their fans get banned.
I tell you what, I'm boycotting Toblerones this Christmas.
And Nazi gold.
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That mistake will live long in the mammary
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We were too busty trying to get Malen his hat-trick or Ollie to score. It could have cost us. Unai will no doubt be pointing that out.
Anything else you want to get off your chest?
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NO.
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Bogarde was caught napping badly for their goal. Torres fortunate enough for the other one, was in no man's land really. This competition is only likely to liven up when it gets to the knock outs. Some minutes into the legs of fringe players and Malen getting the goals. I'm not sure what else you can take from these games,. Nowhere near the intensity of PL.
Well Torres was on the bench so could well be classed as no-mans land, not sure how he was supposed to stop the chance from there though.
Nice one 👍 sorry Pau!
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Hard to reconcile their wannabe hard act with the sleepy German-style picture post card town, with lovely buildings around the river and 3 grizzly bears in it. Unless it was just the madness of Weatherspoons and not paying £10.50 a pint like we did last year, that sent them wild. You got no sense of moodiness around their ground or faffing in the station back to town after.
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This Ultra thing with the European Clubs is a bit pathetic. It's about time UEFA started punishing these clubs properly for their misbehaviour. I wonder if they were brave enough to venture into town for a drink?
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This Ultra thing with the European Clubs is a bit pathetic. It's about time UEFA started punishing these clubs properly for their misbehaviour. I wonder if they were brave enough to venture into town for a drink?
Apparently YB are on a fans behaviour warning with UEFA?
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NO.
I thought john e's post earlier made the point that good GD is worth an extra point in the EL
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Hard to reconcile their wannabe hard act with the sleepy German-style picture post card town, with lovely buildings around the river and 3 grizzly bears in it. Unless it was just the madness of Weatherspoons and not paying £10.50 a pint like we did last year, that sent them wild. You got no sense of moodiness around their ground or faffing in the station back to town after.
I met a group of Norwegian lads who’d fly out to Malta every year and get absolutely arseholed on the beer there as a point there was about 10% of the cost in Norway. Stay up til god knows when (well past dawn) every night drinking. They’d also go on twice annual trips to Denmark to drink heavily and stock up on porn.
Nice bunch of lads though. Were a good laugh.
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We were too busty trying to get Malen his hat-trick or Ollie to score. It could have cost us. Unai will no doubt be pointing that out.
Yea agree, the whole team looked desperate for Ollie to score. Sancho (who despite the fact I don’t think is that good played well I thought last night), had a really good opportunity to shoot, but tried to play Watkins in through the eye of a needle.
Anyway, strange k/o time, flat atmosphere apart from their idiots, felt like a training game. On to the dogheads.
It seemed clear that once Ollie was on, the instruction was to try and set him up for a goal. Unai just wants to get him firing again. The irony is last night it could have cost us the win. Despite that it was an enjoyable night, but have to agree with the views on Guessand, a very poor buy thus far.
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A decent hour and then shit.
The last 30 mins were abysmal. Young Boys were really not very good, lower Championship standard at best, yet we allowed them to dominate us in the last half hour.
I thought Malen and Maatsen were very good, Tielemans and Onana glided through
I had a ticket for the game and booked the afternoon off but only got out of the office in London at 7pm and caught the last 30 in the pub. I thought Maatsen looked decent going forward but was caught out for the disallowed goal and was also caught napping a few times in our own box. I don’t yet trust him as a defender.
You'd have struggled anyway as the trains from Euston were fucked. My son was booked on the 14:10 due in at 15:30, and arrived just in time to neck the pint I'd bought him in the Holte End car park "fan zone" (one beer trailer tucked in the corner) before we had to dash in for KO. I was "lucky" enough to be working in Nuneaton yesterday :D
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It seemed clear that once Ollie was on, the instruction was to try and set him up for a goal.
So something we do in every match🤔
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It seemed clear that once Ollie was on, the instruction was to try and set him up for a goal.
So something we do in every match🤔
Not to the extent of actually squandering better chances to do it, e.g. the Sancho one last night.
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A decent hour and then shit.
The last 30 mins were abysmal. Young Boys were really not very good, lower Championship standard at best, yet we allowed them to dominate us in the last half hour.
I thought Malen and Maatsen were very good, Tielemans and Onana glided through
I had a ticket for the game and booked the afternoon off but only got out of the office in London at 7pm and caught the last 30 in the pub. I thought Maatsen looked decent going forward but was caught out for the disallowed goal and was also caught napping a few times in our own box. I don’t yet trust him as a defender.
You'd have struggled anyway as the trains from Euston were fucked. My son was booked on the 14:10 due in at 15:30, and arrived just in time to neck the pint I'd bought him in the Holte End car park "fan zone" (one beer trailer tucked in the corner) before we had to dash in for KO. I was "lucky" enough to be working in Nuneaton yesterday :D
Euston appears worse than ever of late. No joy after Tottenham, was a nightmare last week getting back to Piccadilly as well.
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A decent hour and then shit.
The last 30 mins were abysmal. Young Boys were really not very good, lower Championship standard at best, yet we allowed them to dominate us in the last half hour.
I thought Malen and Maatsen were very good, Tielemans and Onana glided through
I had a ticket for the game and booked the afternoon off but only got out of the office in London at 7pm and caught the last 30 in the pub. I thought Maatsen looked decent going forward but was caught out for the disallowed goal and was also caught napping a few times in our own box. I don’t yet trust him as a defender.
You'd have struggled anyway as the trains from Euston were fucked. My son was booked on the 14:10 due in at 15:30, and arrived just in time to neck the pint I'd bought him in the Holte End car park "fan zone" (one beer trailer tucked in the corner) before we had to dash in for KO. I was "lucky" enough to be working in Nuneaton yesterday :D
Lucky you. Easy journey from here!
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I’ve seen Duncan Norvelle throw stronger punches than that ‘hooligan’
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Where did the spend the pre and post match drinking in town?
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A decent hour and then shit.
The last 30 mins were abysmal. Young Boys were really not very good, lower Championship standard at best, yet we allowed them to dominate us in the last half hour.
I thought Malen and Maatsen were very good, Tielemans and Onana glided through
I had a ticket for the game and booked the afternoon off but only got out of the office in London at 7pm and caught the last 30 in the pub. I thought Maatsen looked decent going forward but was caught out for the disallowed goal and was also caught napping a few times in our own box. I don’t yet trust him as a defender.
You'd have struggled anyway as the trains from Euston were fucked. My son was booked on the 14:10 due in at 15:30, and arrived just in time to neck the pint I'd bought him in the Holte End car park "fan zone" (one beer trailer tucked in the corner) before we had to dash in for KO. I was "lucky" enough to be working in Nuneaton yesterday :D
Thanks for cheering me up Duncan! I’m sad to have missed it but the early kick off meant getting away on time from London proved impossible. The positive would have been actually being able to get a train home for a midweek game instead of cashing a lift.
Re the trouble, when there is a small following like last night why not just put them upstairs and leave the lower section empty?
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Or leave them on the car park, a la Legia.
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To avoid a quotathon, the angle of the seats in Upper Trinity makes effective policing there unsafe.
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Another win job done we move on.
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Where did the spend the pre and post match drinking in town?
I work in Town and for every European game, with an obvious exception, you would see fans of the opposition but I didn't see one yesterday at all.
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Where did the spend the pre and post match drinking in town?
I work in Town and for every European game, with an obvious exception, you would see fans of the opposition but I didn't see one yesterday at all.
My mate was in The Sly Old Fox and said there were a load in there.
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And some in the Colmore in the City Centre (they were friendly enough).
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Still plenty of nonsense on Twitter about Villa and the SAG in view of the fact some of the YB fans played up inside the stadium last night, after Villa or the SAG had banned you-know-who from coming in the first place.
I know I'm preching to the converted here but it boils my piss when people with an agenda delibarately claim that there was a ban on members of a nation state or of a particular religion when in fact it was a ban on supporters of a particular football club.
Anyway, sorry for the rant.
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Where did the spend the pre and post match drinking in town?
I work in Town and for every European game, with an obvious exception, you would see fans of the opposition but I didn't see one yesterday at all.
They were all in Bordesley gazing in wonder at the site of the Sports Quarter.
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Wouldn't be surprised if they are lifted at the airport.
Bern's a small airport so they could be flying from anywhere in England, to anywhere in Switzerland, via anywhere in Western Europe.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2dz3ex6r1lo
Six men were arrested earlier at Birmingham Airport on suspicion of assaulting a police officer and violent disorder.
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Doesn't surprise me.
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Still plenty of nonsense on Twitter about Villa and the SAG in view of the fact some of the YB fans played up inside the stadium last night, after Villa or the SAG had banned you-know-who from coming in the first place.
I know I'm preching to the converted here but it boils my piss when people with an agenda delibarately claim that there was a ban on members of a nation state or of a particular religion when in fact it was a ban on supporters of a particular football club.
Anyway, sorry for the rant.
You are an obvious anti-Semite.😉
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What's going on with fan disorder at European games?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c75vz7lgr76o
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Doesn't surprise me.
Fair play plod. The two from last night are still in custody, which would indicate they're going to be taken seriously.
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Still plenty of nonsense on Twitter about Villa and the SAG in view of the fact some of the YB fans played up inside the stadium last night, after Villa or the SAG had banned you-know-who from coming in the first place.
I know I'm preching to the converted here but it boils my piss when people with an agenda delibarately claim that there was a ban on members of a nation state or of a particular religion when in fact it was a ban on supporters of a particular football club.
Anyway, sorry for the rant.
You are an obvious anti-Semite.😉
Hehe, busted.
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What's going on with fan disorder at European games?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c75vz7lgr76o
That article doesn't really say alot apart from English fans ranking highly for behaviour, with only nations with small fan numbers (likes of Faroe Islands, Luxemborg) ranked higher.
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What's going on with fan disorder at European games?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c75vz7lgr76o
That article doesn't really say alot apart from English fans ranking highly for behaviour, with only nations with small fan numbers (likes of Faroe Islands, Luxemborg) ranked higher.
Also, more pertinent -
‘Young Boys have regularly been in trouble with Uefa, and only last week the threat of a ban on travelling fans was lifted after a two-year probation expired’ after an incident in Manchester and..
‘In February this year, Young Boys had a suspended partial home stadium closure activated for the lighting of fireworks, with a new and more substantial ground punishment placing them on probation for another two years’
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What's going on with fan disorder at European games?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c75vz7lgr76o
That article doesn't really say alot apart from English fans ranking highly for behaviour, with only nations with small fan numbers (likes of Faroe Islands, Luxemborg) ranked higher.
Also, more pertinent -
‘Young Boys have regularly been in trouble with Uefa, and only last week the threat of a ban on travelling fans was lifted after a two-year probation expired’ after an incident in Manchester and..
‘In February this year, Young Boys had a suspended partial home stadium closure activated for the lighting of fireworks, with a new and more substantial ground punishment placing them on probation for another two years’
Who'd a' thought the Swiss would join the bad boys of Europe? They'll be invading Lichtenstein next...
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They actually have annexed Liechtenstein, everything there is Swiss.
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Early on 1 March 2007, a company of 171 Swiss soldiers mistakenly entered Liechtenstein, as they were disoriented and took a wrong turn due to bad weather conditions. The troops returned to Swiss territory after they had travelled more than 2 km (1¼ miles) into the country. The Liechtenstein authorities did not discover the incursion and were informed by the Swiss after the incident. The incident was disregarded by both sides. A Liechtenstein spokesman said, "It's not like they invaded with attack helicopters".
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6415531.stm
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Why are Swiss teams even allowed in UEFA competition? They've never even been in the EU.
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Early on 1 March 2007, a company of 171 Swiss soldiers mistakenly entered Liechtenstein, as they were disoriented and took a wrong turn due to bad weather conditions. The troops returned to Swiss territory after they had travelled more than 2 km (1¼ miles) into the country. The Liechtenstein authorities did not discover the incursion and were informed by the Swiss after the incident. The incident was disregarded by both sides. A Liechtenstein spokesman said, "It's not like they invaded with attack helicopters".
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6415531.stm
Inserts Withnail and I gif.
“We’ve invaded your country by mistake”
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Not sure if it ever got mentioned on here. They got a €50,000 fine and one match away fan ban for acting like twats. They'll be banned from buying tickets for Stuttgart away.