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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on October 23, 2025, 04:32:03 PM
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Interesting line-up. Plenty of rotation upon which I’ll reserve judgement until we know if it’s worked. Surprised Bizot’s not playing.
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We should warm up with some traditional Dutch music
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7 changes with Citeh coming up Sunday, which is good.
Surprised Elliott not starting.
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I like that side.
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Pleased to see Sancho in, but surprised Elliott is not also starting.
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Win please.
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Perfectly acceptable team with a great bench if required.
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Pragmatic line-up with plenty of changes. Thought Donnell might get a run out in Holland, but he started on Sunday.
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Rogers starts coming into form and he finally drops him :-)
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Back 4 looks a bit dodgy to me.
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Disappointed for Bizot that he isn't starting.
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Feels like this is where Guessand gets off the mark.
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Bizot has a terrible record against the Eagles.
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Does the oft mentioned Elliott 10 game clause include European matches?
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Is that Lindelof at Right Back?
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Good to see Buendia and Sancho starting. Line up is fine. Good to rest some key players if it works out. Lindelof at right back though?
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Not sure about Lindelof at right back but you’d hope he wouldn’t be too exposed.
Nice to see Sancho start but still no place for Elliot in the first team which is a shame.
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Does the oft mentioned Elliott 10 game clause include European matches?
It is 10 starts.
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Does the oft mentioned Elliott 10 game clause include European matches?
It is 10 starts.
Yes does it include European games?
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We should be doing these by at least 4.
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What has Harvey Elliott done to piss off Unai Emery?
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Back 4 looks a bit dodgy to me.
Lacks a bit of balance to say the least unless he is going 3 at the back
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Could it be 3 at the back with Guessand and Maatsen wingbacks?
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The last time Mings and Pau started together, they both decided to let the Brentford bloke run through untouched......let's hope that is not an issue tonight.
As for Bizot, perhaps Emery is playing it safe because of the other changes in the back 4.
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Pretty much our second string with Pau and Buendia. Hopefully enough.
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Could it be 3 at the back with Guessand and Maatsen wingbacks?
Maybe, or a more complicated Unai variation on that theme!
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What has Harvey Elliott done to piss off Unai Emery?
Hes probably where Youri wss 2 years ago. Bedding him in slowly
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Could it be 3 at the back with Guessand and Maatsen wingbacks?
Could it be that you deserve to stabbed brutally in the face?
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Could it be 3 at the back with Guessand and Maatsen wingbacks?
Could it be that you deserve to stabbed brutally in the face?
I didn't pick the team, don't blame me!
Or is it like Candyman or something, if we mention three at the back here it manifests on the pitch?
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What has Harvey Elliott done to piss off Unai Emery?
Refused to dye his hair black and slick it back.
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What has Harvey Elliott done to piss off Unai Emery?
Refused to dye his hair black and slick it back.
Yeah I think when he gets rid of the dodgy barnet, he starts.
Happy enough with that team but a tad disappointed Elliot doesn’t start.
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What has Harvey Elliott done to piss off Unai Emery?
The same thing YT did. Unai barely played him at first. Needed to adapt.
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Could it be 3 at the back with Guessand and Maatsen wingbacks?
Could it be that you deserve to stabbed brutally in the face?
I couldn't remember which amongst us gets triggered when the system we had when we last won a trophy is suggested as an option.
I know there are others.
Show Yourselves!!!
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Wasn’t there na thing published ( on here ) where he can only play 10 games before December 31st ? As part of the deal ?
Or was that a wierd dream ?
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A back 6 would be sexy times.
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Could it be 3 at the back with Guessand and Maatsen wingbacks?
I think so.
2 left sided CB's in a back 4 is a bit risky.
We will see soon enough.
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Could it be 3 at the back with Guessand and Maatsen wingbacks?
Could it be that you deserve to stabbed brutally in the face?
I couldn't remember which amongst us gets triggered when the system we had when we last won a trophy is suggested as an option.
Yeah, CDBF would rather go on an intimate date with Katie Hopkins than watch Villa play 3 at the back. He has, at least, been consistent in his strident opposition to it.
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Back 4 looks a bit dodgy to me.
Really hoped we would never see Mings at RCB again after the Brentford debacle!
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Ooh,the third kit
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Sky have gone with us playing a 4-1-2-3 with Sancho centre mid with Bogarde and Buendia left wing.
BBC have gone with almost the same but in more of a 4-3-3 with Sancho the right of the midfield 3 and Buendia left wing still.
I'm assuming both are the result of guesses.
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Are we playing Melchester Rovers?
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Back 4 looks a bit dodgy to me.
Really hoped we would never see Mings at RCB again after the Brentford debacle!
After one game you should throw out something rather then work on it?
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Might anyone be able to provide a vista of a river please?
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This is shit, sort it out Unai.
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Evanny scoes
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Well done on sorting it out Unai.
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So Unai sorted it out quick time then.
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That was a bit easy.
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Guessanad!!
Chuffed for him, he needed that.
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The 3rd kit is awful.
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Evanny scoes
You're so far ahead of my stream .Love it.
You're my canary in the coal mine
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Feels like this is where Guessand gets off the mark.
Didn't think it would be that quick.
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guessand better than the goal against spurzz that one
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Very strange European away-day for me. I think for the first time ever since before O'Neill's days I not at a European away match. So will be watching it on T&T and following your comments on here.
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Evanny scoes
You're so far ahead of my stream .Love it.
You're my canary in the coal mine
Same here.
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1st decent passing play and we score. Could hopefully spark Guessand
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Great ball by Onana and good cross from Sancho, that they couldn't deal with.
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Might anyone be able to provide a vista of a river please?
And for me please.
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I love the Dutch - totally barking but immensely likeable but on this occasion I hope we smash em.
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Are there any small flows of water
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Ollie should have scored there.
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should have scored ollie
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Ollie can be so frustrating. Should've buried that.
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Watkins too casual.
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Good noise from the Villa boys, for only 400!
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Well played Sancho.
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He had time to thing, the achilles heel of Ollie.
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Dirty wanker
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Ollie can be so frustrating. Should've buried that.
Come on mate he runs around a lot.
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Red card….maybe?
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Sancho looking decent
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Guessand!!
Chuffed for him, he needed that.
Agreed, would be nice Ollie could bag a couple as well.
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I don't like these blue shorts . Doesn't look like a Villa kit at all.
On the plus side , we're winning, great start .
But what about those shorts ?? :)
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Dirty fucker, serves him right if he's injured himself. Hope Bogarde is ok.
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Their kit is very Melchester Rovers , Roy Race you scumbag
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Tackle shit, get banged.
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Terrible challenge.
Serves him right the dirty b***ard
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Any rivulets?
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Only got a yellow so they can make a sub.
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It's a fucking nightmare for streams these days. So sick of it. Why is it so hard to steal things?
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Disappointing from Ollie again...not getting the cross in
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It's a fucking nightmare for streams these days. So sick of it. Why is it so hard to steal things?
Someone said Hesgoals but I couldn't possibly comment.
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The Sancho and Maatsen combo down the left looks really good
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It's a fucking nightmare for streams these days. So sick of it. Why is it so hard to steal things?
Someone said Hesgoals but I couldn't possibly comment.
I had to use a VPN
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Sancho is playing really well but for me Bogarde is the best player on the pitch so far.
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The ground looks proper old school. Reminds me of 1980s Kenilworth Road.
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Sancho looking bright, but the final decision needs to be better.
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The ground looks proper old school. Reminds me of 1980s Kenilworth Road.
So, basically, 2020s Kenilworth Road? 🙂
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Sancho is having fun, but I want him to release it when he's beaten the first three players.
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It's a fucking nightmare for streams these days. So sick of it. Why is it so hard to steal things?
This made I larf.
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Sancho looking bright, but the final decision needs to be better.
Well he did set up the goal. He's been excellent IMO, but I worry one of these dirty windmill shaggers will injure him.
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The goal for anyone that hasn't seen it
https://x.com/MShadazz12014/status/1981402710747341037
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Fuck off ref.
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It's a fucking nightmare for streams these days. So sick of it. Why is it so hard to steal things?
Someone said Hesgoals but I couldn't possibly comment.
Thank you Wolf.
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Some ball that from Buendia
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I know they are not up to much but my word we are playing some nice football.
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Some ball that from Buendia
I thought so too, he does that better than anyone.
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Evanny should have scored
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wake up ollie offside there stupid
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Yep. One on one he needs to to better
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should of been 2-0
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another lovely Buendia pass
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Evanny should have scored
Dreadful miss really, our forwards having fun out there.
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Nice move and shot from Jordan forcing a save.
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We are miles better than them. Just need to get a second to kill them off. Would like to be able to rest a few as these have leg-breakers in the team.
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Have a feeling Margaret may well shine for them tonight.
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Impressed with Sancho.
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should of been 2-0
or 3 or 4
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The Sanch is playing well.
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Hurry up and score a second goal so I can relax.
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We should be out of sight. I hope we don't rue these misses.
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Great passes from ickle Emi.
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we should be home and hosed now
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Cheap shirts from Sports Direct....
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The player is not for turning.
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Do more goals please, Villa.
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I think they will bore us to 0-1 end
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If we don't score again soon Unai is going to be on the end of another telling off.
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Great passes from ickle Emi.
Corners not bad either. He has been outstanding
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Do more goals please, Villa.
It’s our usual patiently waiting for them to make a mistake, open up. I reckon we crack them open a couple more times at least in the second half. Get out without injury. These poor fuckers have now lost two players in the first half alone.
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They make another change, bringing on a bloke on loan from Derby.
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They make another change, bringimg on a bloke on loan from Derby.
Curtis Davies?
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Mings awful
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Guessand!!! Hopeless.
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1-1 ffs
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Guessand!!! Hopeless.
What was he thinking?
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guessand put full power on that cross for some reason
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We should be out of sight! We are taking this for granted it seems
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Blimey we’re wasteful here.
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Jesus,looked like he was shooting... at the bench
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FFS....
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Fuck sakes. Right before HT too. That’s just shit
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This is ridiculous. About 0-6 would be a fair reflection... Jammy as fuck goal, too.
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Wtf was that Guessy? Awful. Completely Blues.
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Ffs
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We should be out of sight! We are taking this for granted it seems
That was fast
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Come on VAR!
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Blimey…..VAR?
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It stands
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Absolutely bloody preposterous.
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That's what fucking happens when you waste so many chances.
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We inevitably pay the price for the missed chances. Scabby goal. Looked offside to me.
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Think someone was offside but not the scorer.
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We've been horribly casual up front here. Guess and, WTAF was that?
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Goal. Ffs
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We've just fouled this Europa Nest.
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I don't want a VAR good decision wasted in this match.
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FFS.
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Crap
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That's piss poor defending
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These are 3rd division standard at best.
Should be a cricket score.
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Get Bizot on!
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Really poor.
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Get Bizot on!
Centre-forward?
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Get Bizot on!
Up front maybe?
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Should be at least 4 nill up with better finishing but it’s 1-1 instead
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A game of shots-in, and yet we're level; unbelievable really.
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Weren't the players who blocked off Bogarde and Onana offside?
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Come on Unai, chuck a teacup or two around at half-time!
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We inevitably pay the price for the missed chances. Scabby goal. Looked offside to me.
Onana soft as shite for me. Defenders getting blocked in the defensive line is becoming more regular at set piece time but Onana took the easy way out.
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I still cant fathom what the actual fuck Guessand was trying with that blasted cross to nobody.
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well i am annoyed !!
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I know he scored but Guessand is nowhere near good enough at the moment.
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What exactly does Sancho do?
I’m not sure if I’ve seen him do anything in his career.
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Who was marking the goalscorer?
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We inevitably pay the price for the missed chances. Scabby goal. Looked offside to me.
Onana soft as shite for me. Defenders getting blocked in the defensive line is becoming more regular at set piece time but Onana took the easy way out.
He's a huge fucker yet goes down easily.
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Well, that was irritating. We are still much better than them and should win, though. COYVB.
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I'm beginning to see why most of this lot don't start every week.
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We inevitably pay the price for the missed chances. Scabby goal. Looked offside to me.
Onana soft as shite for me. Defenders getting blocked in the defensive line is becoming more regular at set piece time but Onana took the easy way out.
Wasn't just Onana, Bogarde was also blocked off. It might be regular at set pieces, but it is still offside if the blocking player is offside, as we know ourselves in at least two cases.
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Who was marking the goalscorer?
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The two midfielders blocked by offside players.
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Should've been out of sight, too many missed chances.
Lucky goal for them with the deflection but poor defensively.
They are not up to much so we can let opportunities like this pass by.
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This is a classic case of thinking it’s easy and being too casual.
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I know he scored but Guessand is nowhere near good enough at the moment.
He's shite. Even his goal was a half hearted dabble at connecting with the ball.
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Maybe in the second half they can act like a professional football team and earn a win instead of sauntering around the pitch, expecting to win. The attitude and intensity has been shocking
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Really shit by us not be more than one up by the time they scored.
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ok, sancho, stop hanging on to the ball too long, Guessand, stop being this weeks raffle prize winner and start showing much, much more. onana, stop posing. Move the ball quicker Villa, for fuck sake. we should be winning this by at least 3 goals.
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Controlled the game but very wasteful in front of goal.
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This is a classic case of thinking it’s easy and being too casual.
Agreed, might wake us a bit. It was too easy. Need to be more clinical at top end of pitch. Ideal game for Elliot to come in for Guessand.
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Miss so many chances and you’re always likely to end up like this. But that free kick was a straight lob. No way we should be conceding from that.
We don’t have a clinical finisher. Guessand… hmm.
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I know he scored but Guessand is nowhere near good enough at the moment.
He’s more involved but not showing any real quality.
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I know he scored but Guessand is nowhere near good enough at the moment.
He’s more involved but not showing any real quality.
His movement off the ball leaves a lot to be desired. His crossing has been terrible,
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I know he scored but Guessand is nowhere near good enough at the moment.
He’s more involved but not showing any real quality.
That cross has to be the poorest I can remember for a long time considering the promising position he was in.
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That was too easy & we were wasteful. We should have been out of sight. One of the poorest sides I've seen in a long time.
They'll come out in the second half & think they can win it.
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Just be professional in the second half Villa..
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Miss so many chances and you’re always likely to end up like this. But that free kick was a straight lob. No way we should be conceding from that.
We don’t have a clinical finisher. Guessand… hmm.
Well we have the same VAR as been refereeing when our offside people have blocked players and we don't concede. Any other connection and we don't concede. Two CB were in front of him when he scored and the one place it went to be goal is the one it happened to be with a wicked deflection of Pau's rear foot.
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Is that another conceded from the oppositions first shot?
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We inevitably pay the price for the missed chances. Scabby goal. Looked offside to me.
Onana soft as shite for me. Defenders getting blocked in the defensive line is becoming more regular at set piece time but Onana took the easy way out.
Wasn't just Onana, Bogarde was also blocked off. It might be regular at set pieces, but it is still offside if the blocking player is offside, as we know ourselves in at least two cases.
Onana is a far bigger specimen than Bogarde. No way should any player be blocking him off.
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Watching their goal back I don't think whoever is on VAR understands the offside law.
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Should never have been a free kick in the first place
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Is that another conceded from the oppositions first shot?
No, they had a few shots before that.
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they'll be dead on their feet after 70 mins and our subs can pick them off - no problem here
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Their goal
https://x.com/footballontnt/status/1981412951375413700
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The ref has given 2 or 3 really soft freekicks to GAE - and they've scored from one: it's almost like he was feeling sorry for the home side. Terrible reffing.
That aside, we should have been home and hosed before that.
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Onana is a far bigger specimen than Bogarde. No way should any player be blocking him off.
Or just another one of your scapegoats to have a go at.
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I know he scored but Guessand is nowhere near good enough at the moment.
He’s more involved but not showing any real quality.
A bit like Watkins. I've never known a striker shoot so often straight at the keeper. Buendia did the same not long after. Sancho has done okay but the only real player showing any real quality is Bogarde.
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Who was marking the goalscorer?
Mings and Torres were marking each other and one of them scored.
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if our forward players were clinical enough then it would be 4-1 now. It's composure in front of goal that is the problem here
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Is that another conceded from the oppositions first shot?
No, they had a few shots before that.
First on target although there was the one that trickled to Martinez to pick up which might count.
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Watching their goal back I don't think whoever is on VAR understands the offside law.
Yep. They only looked at the attacker and not the part in the rules which states
Being in an offside position is not an offense itself; it only becomes an offense if the player interferes with play, gains an advantage, or interferes with an opponent
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Is that another conceded from the oppositions first shot?
No, they had a few shots before that.
First on target although there was the one that trickled to Martinez to pick up which might count.
Yeah, I was thinking of that one plus a couple that missed by miles.
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They're absolute Blose, almost literally, they have a fella on-loan from County Derby. We'll win handily, 4-1.
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The ref has given 2 or 3 really soft freekicks to GAE - and they've scored from one: it's almost like he was feeling sorry for the home side. Terrible reffing.
That aside, we should have been home and hosed before that.
Bit of a stretch to lay the blame at the ref!
Confident we’ll go on to win but no biggie if we don’t.
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Yet another soft free kick for them
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This is what happens when you don't take your chances - we should be at the airport by now.
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Bit of a stretch to lay the blame at the ref!
Confident we’ll go on to win but no biggie if we don’t.
We should have been 4 up and could still hopefully have four at the end of the 90. But the VAR lino definitely screwed up by not judging on the impeding offside players and only checking the scorer.
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The ref has given 2 or 3 really soft freekicks to GAE - and they've scored from one: it's almost like he was feeling sorry for the home side. Terrible reffing.
That aside, we should have been home and hosed before that.
Bit of a stretch to lay the blame at the ref!
Confident we’ll go on to win but no biggie if we don’t.
The point was simply that he's giving lots of soft freekicks - and has just done so in the second half (against Buendia).
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I know he scored but Guessand is nowhere near good enough at the moment.
He’s more involved but not showing any real quality.
A bit like Watkins. I've never known a striker shoot so often straight at the keeper. Buendia did the same not long after. Sancho has done okay but the only real player showing any real quality is Bogarde.
The chance for Watkins deflected off a defender, taking it back to the keeper.
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Guessand is wank.
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Ollie should be getting on end of that cross from Sancho.
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We keep getting in good positions then doing mad shit.
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Ollie should be getting on end of that cross from Sancho.
I dunno if it was on, but at least charge at it and maybe get in the goalie's eye-line.
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Ollie should be getting on end of that cross from Sancho.
I dunno if it was on, but at least charge at it and maybe get in the goalie's eye-line.
It just needed a Luke Moore-esque stretched flick.
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Sancho must be the easiest player to mark. He never goes outside the marker, always cuts inside onto his right foot. A 14 year old could mark him.
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This might be the kiss of death but we do seem to have a couple of gears to go up into.
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So sloppy.
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Yet another soft free kick
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This referee is watching a completely different game to everyone else.
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We should have been on a 6-7 gd now sitting pretty at the top of the table.
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This might be the kiss of death but we do seem to have a couple of gears to go up into.
The clutch is slipping atm...
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Time for a change or two. Elliot for Guessand and Cash for Mings.
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Other than a lucky/flukey mishit goal, Guessand has been absolutely cack.
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Beginning to worry about Guessand
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We are doing our usual struggle thing vs the low block and defenders sitting deep. These slowly approach needs to be changed up now and again to break this down.
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We are short of a clinical striker.
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How did their player evade three of ours while surrounded?
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He may have scored but Guessand has done fall since apart from missing a one on one with the keeper and give the ball away. Too casual by far.
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Eagles Go Ahead
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Oh fucking hell
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We are playing like tossers
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Absolutely shit Villa
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FFS 3 villa shirts couldn't deal with the one eagle who got his cross in
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Elliot's not ready, but Guessand is. Lol. And now guess what...
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Fucking hell.
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Well, they were always going to take the lead. Clue's in the name. At least we have time to turn it around.
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We’ve looked complacent all night. What a poor performance this has been so far. This lot are no better than a decent Championship side.
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We are… not fantastic
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Fucking pathetic
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That's awful, just ran into the space between Maatsen and Torres.
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What a bunch of soft pussies we are
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Maatsen completely went to sleep there
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Maybe if we played with pace and movement rather than fucking tip tapping in front of them ?
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7 changes and not taking it seriously is coming home to roost.
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That is fucking embarrassing. The chances we have missed tonight. Fuck sake Villa. Fast running out of patience for our forwards.
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Is Maatsen asleep? FFS
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Martinez far too slow to come and get that - he should have been on the player much sharper
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How are we losing to these??.....
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This lot are shit. So are Go Ahead Eagles.
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Jesus, what the actual fuck are we doing?
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That's awful, just ran into the space between Maatsen and Torres.
Mostly because Mings was a yard deeper than the rest of the defence though.
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What a disaster. I think Martinez goes down too soon there.
Losing to this bunch of clowns. WTF.
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7 changes and not taking it seriously is coming home to roost.
Not really. Our team is more than good enough to twat them, we just haven't finished.
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Jeez... WTF
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Watkins has ben very disappointing tonight.
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This like Legia away a couple of seasons ago.
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How many fucking times have we seen this happen? Playing like arrogant tossers.
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Blimey this is really poor.
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That's awful, just ran into the space between Maatsen and Torres.
Mostly because Mings was a yard deeper than the rest of the defence though.
Talk about preconceived bias
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Guessand is quite handy as a defensive winger against quality opposition but he’s a liability in a game like this.
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created fuck all this half
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That's awful, just ran into the space between Maatsen and Torres.
I think Mings Played him on.
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They’ll defend for their lives now
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Shit defending again
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7 changes and not taking it seriously is coming home to roost.
Not really. Our team is more than good enough to twat them, we just haven't finished.
Yes really because it's a mental thing.
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They've had 6 touches in our box, we've had 37 in theirs.
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I think Bizot in goal, we don’t concede the goal v spurs or the one just now
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7 changes and not taking it seriously is coming home to roost.
Not really. Our team is more than good enough to twat them, we just haven't finished.
I think the phrase is don’t fucking tell me, fucking show me
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This is a piss take.
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Lindelof bumbling around as an overlapping full-back is...fun.
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They're playing with aplomb now
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That's awful, just ran into the space between Maatsen and Torres.
I think Mings Played him on.
I think they all did although Mings and Lindelof were the deepest.
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They are the ones playing the good football now. We look shaky.
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Cash on for Onana, Rogers on for Ollie.
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Malen and Booby also on
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7 changes and not taking it seriously is coming home to roost.
Not really. Our team is more than good enough to twat them, we just haven't finished.
Yes really because it's a mental thing.
Yep, Chelsea really struggled.
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That's awful, just ran into the space between Maatsen and Torres.
I think Mings Played him on.
Seemed like he was behind Maatsen/Torres anyway, haven't seen it back though. Haven't got going at all since half time. Unbalanced back 4, midfield two at nothing and Guessand a liability really.
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Onana off after another £50m performance
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Bruge away, Monaco away and now this shower.
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Ollie can go and put some after sun on. It’s like he’s been on the fucking beach tonight.
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How the utter fuck is Guessand still on the pitch?
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Another flock of Eagles we haven't turned up to play against in a cup competition!
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It feels unlikely that we'd get our seventh win in a row against Man City, so let's take a cheeky 2-2 here and we start a new run on Sunday.
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Really needed McGinn on.
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How the utter fuck is Guessand still on the pitch?
Maybe he has to play himself into form like Rogers did?
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Ollie can go and put some after sun on. It’s like he’s been on the fucking beach tonight.
He looks gassed at the highest level now. And this level too.
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Yep, Chelsea really struggled.
Chelsea manager had made it clear at the start of the season to his players. He basically works with two squads.
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Too slow
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I can finally wash my "lucky" top now. I was expecting it might be needed this week but not in this match.
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The is League cup level of incompetence.
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How the utter fuck is Guessand still on the pitch?
Maybe he has to play himself into form like Rogers did?
These threads are always so OTT
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What is it with us against sides with eagle connotations?
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We can't even fluke a goal anymore.
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Go Behind Lions
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What is it with us against sides with eagle connotations?
Good question.
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Subs in this sort of situation almost never work.
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Tippy tappy shite.
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Albion fan Steve Hermann on WM sounds so pleased with events.
Wanker.
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Cash looks like he’s allergic to going at the full back and putting in a cross.
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Yep, Chelsea really struggled.
Chelsea manager had made it clear at the start of the season to his players. He basically works with two squads.
There isn't a single English, Germany, Italian or Spanish team would have come to a pub league outfit like these and played their strongest team with a massive game waiting on Sunday. We've missed loads of chances, doesn't mean rotating the squad was wrong. On the contrary, it's essential. We'd be exhausted by February otherwise.
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This is far from ideal.
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Suboptimal even.
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Do the players know we're losing?
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Go Behind Lions
😆
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Losing to a side with a name like a 1960s cartoon.
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Can we at least look interested at corners and attack one?
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Our pattern of play when behind is frustrating. I'm sure there's a serious ploy there, and I'm too thick to see it, but I want urgency.
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Suboptimal even.
Room for improvement.
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Guessand has proven again that he's another shit Monchi signing.
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I knew not getting Dyche was a mistake.
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Our pattern of play when behind is frustrating. I'm sure there's a serious ploy there, and I'm too thick to see it, but I want urgency.
Possession without threat is pointless
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Well said.
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SJM on for Bogey.
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It's surprising how often we look too relaxed and in prepared for cup games.
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McGinn on too late.
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Penalty
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Pen ?
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It's surprising how often we look too relaxed and in prepared for cup games.
Especially as our manager is a famed ‘cup man’.
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Penalty?
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Pelanty
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Petanly
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Who’s going to miss it for us?
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Pen?
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Thank McGrath we never miss them
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Anyone fancy us to score this? 😬
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Who will
take miss?
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Buendia taking it
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A quick poll says everyone fancies us to miss this
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Still 2-1 and it just hit my window
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Jaysus.
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Sigh.
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Fuck fuck fuck
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For fucks sake. That is utterly pathetic
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Fucks sake!
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I take it we don’t score?
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Crapper
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We must be the only team who complain when the ref gives us a penalty instead of letting play continue.
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impossibly bad
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What a shock
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We don't score penalties, do we.
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You just knew he was gonna miss.
It was all over his face.
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Fucking hell that sums this up.
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Who’s going to miss it for us?
Ace just fucking ace
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Shocking penalty, hit the fucking target at least.
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That's going down in the annals of worst pens
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Unbelievable that we do not have a competent penalty taker
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You just knew he was gonna miss.
It was all over his face.
Yep. He looked nervous as fuck.
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Well. We are Still Aston Villa, that's the good news.
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Why on earth did he take it?
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The second penalty he has ever taken? That sounds like a silly decision.
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Well that sums up tonight. Utter shit pen.
This is the sort of performance that I thought was a thing of the past.
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Shocking penalty, hit the fucking target at least.
Not getting on target is criminal
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Unbelievable that we do not have a competent penalty taker
It feels like it's becoming an albatross for us.
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Terrible effort, wet surface. Hit it hard on the ground and the keeper should never save it. Wasn't a penalty anyway for me
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So fucking shit Villa. Good timing as well with Man City coming up. How a squad of professionals don’t have a single competent penalty taker in the entire group is beyond belief.
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His 2nd ever pen the commentary said. What a stinker.
I didn't think it was a pen though tbf
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We can’t find a competent penalty taker or set piece taker. Ridiculous.
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The second penalty he has ever taken? That sounds like a silly decision.
All the other players are even worse...
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This is our shit half
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Shockingly bad all fucking night.
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Unbelievable that we do not have a competent penalty taker
I thought Malen was the penalty taker? Is he on?
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Surely McGinn should have taken it?
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Well that sums up tonight. Utter shit pen.
This is the sort of performance that I thought was a thing of the past.
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Couldn't have been much worse if we'd asked Kevin Richardson to have a go.
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Unbelievable that we do not have a competent penalty taker
It feels like it's becoming an albatross for us.
Consistent bad things:
1. Penalties
2. Playing against ten men.
3. Crystal Palace.
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Unbelievable that we do not have a competent penalty taker
I thought Malen was the penalty taker? Is he on?
He did come on. He’d have been my choice
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Going high with a pen in shit weather isn't the brightest.
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Fucking hell Villa when we are shit we really are. Come on still time.
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Subs have improved matters, we will get another few chances
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Unbelievable that we do not have a competent penalty taker
I thought Malen was the penalty taker? Is he on?
He is on, yes
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Surely McGinn should have taken it?
Didnt he miss v Brentford
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Well that sums up tonight. Utter shit pen.
This is the sort of performance that I thought was a thing of the past.
I can point to a few last season.
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dunno why he looked so nervous, he's in form, played well tonight just looked like he was going to flap it.
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I thought Unai was the Europa League mastermind.
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Going high with a pen in shit weather isn't the brightest.
Absolutely.
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This is seriously fucking annoying now.
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Shockingly bad all fucking night.
I’d call us unprofessional.
To be losing a game that we were total control of is disgraceful.
And regardless of possession, I don’t remember their goalie making a save in the second half.
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I thought Unai was the Europa League mastermind.
He is but we fluffed about 3 really good chances first hand (Hand? Half). We are forever giving teams a way back into games when we don't take our chances.
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think spurs lost a couple on their way to glory
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We have sleep walked this to defeat.
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Unbelievable that we do not have a competent penalty taker
It feels like it's becoming an albatross for us.
Consistent bad things:
1. Penalties
2. Playing against ten men.
3. Crystal Palace.
2 and 3 predate emery by decades in my experience.
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Unbelievable that we do not have a competent penalty taker
It feels like it's becoming an albatross for us.
Consistent bad things:
1. Penalties
2. Playing against ten men.
3. Crystal Palace.
4. Man Utd
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We should have battered these but we've been cack.
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Glenn Whelan's was better than that - at least it was on target
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Surely McGinn should have taken it?
Missed his last one.
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pisses you off when the commenetators seem to be behind the eagle fcukers too
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I thought Unai was the Europa League mastermind.
When you team has 16 shots with 6 on target, how much is down to tactics and how much is down to poor performances on the pitch.
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Unbelievable that we do not have a competent penalty taker
It feels like it's becoming an albatross for us.
Consistent bad things:
1. Penalties
2. Playing against ten men.
3. Crystal Palace.
Watkins not scoring surely.
1 in 12 this season.
18 goals in his last 70 apps.
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I thought Unai was the Europa League mastermind.
I don't know how this could be Unai's fault. Any combination of our first team should have been capable of wiping the floor with this pub team. Players have to take responsibility.
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I thought Unai was the Europa League mastermind.
Did he take the pen?
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Touches in the box is now 6 v 47.
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We haven’t been awful. We just haven’t taken our chances.
The result if it stays like this will be awful though.
Fuck me though, Guessand is garbage.
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Maatsen has been appalling tonight,
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From the CL beating the likes of Bayern and PSG to the Europa and possibly losing to Go Ahead Fucking Eagles. Fuck me
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Surely McGinn should have taken it?
Missed his last one.
Going to be Martinez's turn soon. At least he'd probably approach it with confidence.
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We haven’t been awful. We just haven’t taken our chances.
The result if it stays like this will be awful though.
Fuck me though, Guessand is garbage.
Agreed, we should have 4 or 5 here.
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Someone on the BBC webpage has said this.
Justice done. Especially considering Villa have got away with three of those handball decisions not being given against them in the last couple of PL games.
Gary
I suspect his second name is Bluenose.
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This is getting to Stevenage dreadful
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GAE are crap, lower Championship at best, we've been losing for nearly half an hour and their keeper has had fuck all to do in that time. That's shit.
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Surely McGinn should have taken it?
Missed his last one.
Going to be Martinez's turn soon. At least he'd probably approach it with confidence.
He'd smash it Pressman style.
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From the CL beating the likes of Bayern and PSG to the Europa and possibly losing to Go Ahead Fucking Eagles. Fuck me
It's one game. We lost to Lille last season too.
We'll still qualify automatically.
Chill.
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I’ve just fucking clocked it. Once again we are losing to Crystal Palace. The Dutch version. The Eagles of Croyden now reincarnated in this outfit.
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This is getting to Stevenage dreadful
That's probably point 5.
5 'Lower League' cup games.
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Surely McGinn should have taken it?
Missed his last one.
Going to be Martinez's turn soon. At least he'd probably approach it with confidence.
He'd smash it Pressman style.
He'd get sent off for mooning their goalkeeper in the run-up.
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I’ve just fucking clocked it. Once again we are losing to Crystal Palace. The Dutch version. The Eagles of Croyden now reincarnated in this outfit.
Now it makes sense to be fair.
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Nothing wrong with a couple of those crosses across their six yard boxes. Torres the one challenging while Malen out at edge of box.
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If champions league is the holy grail, then one has to ask is it easier to finish top four or win Europa. If the latter, then shouldn’t we play our strongest team (if ahead by 3-4 goals, make some subs)
What is the priority? League or Europa?
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We haven’t been awful. We just haven’t taken our chances.
The result if it stays like this will be awful though.
Fuck me though, Guessand is garbage.
I think we have when you think who we are playing.
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GAE are crap, lower Championship at best, we've been losing for nearly half an hour and their keeper has had fuck all to do in that time. That's shit.
Couldn't agree more. Our crossing and attacking the ball in the box has been wank.
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We’ve wasted the Feynoord win with this
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Unbelievable that we do not have a competent penalty taker
It feels like it's becoming an albatross for us.
Consistent bad things:
1. Penalties
2. Playing against ten men.
3. Crystal Palace.
Watkins not scoring surely.
1 in 12 this season.
18 goals in his last 70 apps.
Made your night then.
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We lost to Lille last season too.
No we didn't.
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From the CL beating the likes of Bayern and PSG to the Europa and possibly losing to Go Ahead Fucking Eagles. Fuck me
We have beaten Feynoord and Bolgna. File this against Bruges and Monaco in the CL last season or Legia.
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Guessand you useless cnut
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I think their name makes it worse for some reason.
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We’ve wasted the Feynoord win with this
Yeo real retrograde step after win there
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3 added mins
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Guessand is wank
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Haven't looked like scoring since we were awarded the penalty. I'm obviously including the actual penalty in that.
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From the CL beating the likes of Bayern and PSG to the Europa and possibly losing to Go Ahead Fucking Eagles. Fuck me
We have beaten Feynoord and Bolgna. File this against Bruges and Monaco in the CL last season or Legia.
They don’t have an association with Eagles.
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Guessand is wank
He’s not that good
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Guessand has been impossibly poor
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Guessand is wank
He does seems bang average doesn’t he?
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Guessand is wank
Needs the Philogene treatment.
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At least Guessand is away for a few weeks at the ACON in January. Hope Ivory Coast go a long way.
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Is Malen invisible?
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Dispiriting performance we can't play against Eagles - home or in Europe
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If Guessand is worth 30m then I must be a couple of million.
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Nothing wrong with that cross either, Mings should be doing better
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We lost to Lille last season too.
No we didn't.
We lost to a shit team Mings gave a penalty away to because he picked the ball up in the box.
Can't remember who it was, that's how shit they are.
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Who is this Malen you speak of?
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Bruges. Lille outplayed us the year before and we snuck through on penalties.
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So not Lille then.
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Malen needs a through ball, I dunno how good he would be at big looped crossed with 12 players around him.
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So not Lille then.
Thought on Watkins 1 in 12?
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FT
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Really poor not to have beaten a really limited team.
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So not Lille then.
Thought on Watkins 1 in 12?
OlLiE wAtKiNs
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Unbelievable that we do not have a competent penalty taker
It feels like it's becoming an albatross for us.
Consistent bad things:
1. Penalties
2. Playing against ten men.
3. Crystal Palace.
Watkins not scoring surely.
1 in 12 this season.
18 goals in his last 70 apps.
There's always been a weird thing on this site when some people seem so happy when something isn't going well and are desperate to be proven right that they almost gloat about it.
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That’s a shocker.
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Can't remember who it was, that's how shit they are.
Or maybe you just don't pay enough attention.
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Truth is we didnt deserve anything tonight. We go again!
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Back to shit losing vs a glorified Walsal
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Total fucking disgrace. They owe us a big performance on Sunday now.
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That's as bad a result as Stevenage. Shameful.
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(https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-08-2016/I-ME9i.gif)
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Can't remember who it was, that's how shit they are.
Or maybe you just don't pay enough attention.
It’s hard when you’re very specifically focused on one thing.
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Total fucking disgrace. They owe us a big performance on Sunday now.
No it's not.
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I think complacency played a big part tonight. We were so on top and they were so poor, the players became blasé. The play was far too pedestrian in the 2nd half for the most part. No idea why Sancho went off, but Guessand stayed on.
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Coming off a winning run and we lose to a bunch who would struggle against Tamworth. So fucking Villa.
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Another kit to be quickly labelled "unlucky".
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The thing is, they are a limited team who didn't play well. How the fuck have we lost that.
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I think complacency played a big part tonight. We were so on top and they were so poor, the players became blasé. The play was far too pedestrian in the 2nd half for the most part. No idea why Sancho went off, but Guessand stayed on.
If you don’t play your strongest team, it always sends a message
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The thing is, they are a limited team who didn't play well. How the fuck have we lost that.
Complacency, arrogance, lack of effort, take your pick.
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That was a masterclass in shite finishing. Fcuking hopeless.
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I think complacency played a big part tonight. We were so on top and they were so poor, the players became blasé. The play was far too pedestrian in the 2nd half for the most part. No idea why Sancho went off, but Guessand stayed on.
If you don’t play your strongest team, it always sends a message
The message being "we don't want to plummet down the league in February because the squad are all knackered".
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Absolutely the right game to be resting players. It'll in all likelihood mean fuck all come the end of the group phase.
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Absolutely the right game to be resting players. It'll in all likelihood mean fuck all come the end of the group phase.
Only to the fans who spent money going to the game
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Absolutely the right game to be resting players. It'll in all likelihood mean fuck all come the end of the group phase.
Try telling that to those making their way back to digs in Deventer in shite weather conditions.