Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Deano's Mullet on April 27, 2025, 01:00:38 PM
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Am I the only Villa fan who can't stand that song? It just feels like everyone else in the world sings it, it seems to be the main thing we do sing these days and it's a bit small time in my eyes going on about conquering Europe forty three years ago. Don't get me wrong we've had some great chants and I still bloody love this club but I hate that song.
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I don't like chants, full stop. What's wrong with quiet contemplation, punctuated by the occasional pithy remark about the referee's parentage? Who was the first person to start shouting at football matches and why didn't the other attendees have him removed? You don't get this nonsense at the theatre, FFS.
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Who was the first person to start shouting at football matches and why didn't the other attendees have him removed? You don't get this nonsense at the theatre, FFS.
Bono's grandad.
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Genuinely not surprised.
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Its horrible.
But sadly it is our go to dirge.
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I can’t stand it either. Every two minutes without fail, there it is again. It’s not about not wanting chants or atmosphere, it’s just that one that I hate.
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It's a million times better than any of the "my lord" songs, and at least it doesn't mention Birmingham fucking City like seemingly half our chants have to.
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Am I the only Villa fan who can't stand that song? It just feels like everyone else in the world sings it, it seems to be the main thing we do sing these days and it's a bit small time in my eyes going on about conquering Europe forty three years ago. Don't get me wrong we've had some great chants and I still bloody love this club but I hate that song.
For some reason it's the 'nineteen eighty twooooo' bit that I really hate.
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I don't mind it in moderation. However, as I've said in the past, I wish we had a unique-to-us anthem that is part of the Villa tradition. That's about the only thing that our nearest neighbours have over us
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I like it, so what present Villa songs do H&V like?
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I think the quality of songs has generally increased in recent years, certainly from the 1990s/2000s nadir when we kept singing about having only one of people. The Asensio, Rashford and Bailey songs are all decent, though the latter is too fast for me, I just tap my foot along with it.
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I don't mind it in moderation. However, as I've said in the past, I wish we had a unique-to-us anthem that is part of the Villa tradition. That's about the only thing that our nearest neighbours have over us
We've got Holte Enders in the Sky but its all too brief.
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It's a million times better than any of the "my lord" songs, and at least it doesn't mention Birmingham fucking City like seemingly half our chants have to.
If anything pisses me off, it’s the ‘Birmingham, are you listening………..’ shite.
Firstly, why the fuck are they even on our radar ? They should be the furthest thing from our minds.
Secondly, we take the piss out of them, take bets on when we will hear the first ‘shit on the Villa’ when they are on the telly……..yet we are just as bad
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I think the quality of songs has generally increased in recent years, certainly from the 1990s/2000s nadir when we kept singing about having only one of people.
Yeah, the atmosphere/variety of songs is much better nowadays than it was back then.
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I don’t mind it too much.
I was really impressed at Southampton, our fans were singing all match, lots of different songs and chants. I didn’t hear any of those yesterday. I guess away days there’s more chance of our fans being in their usual groups.
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I like it, so what present Villa songs do H&V like?
Same here, other clubs also sing it but ours is one of the better versions. I particularly like the fact that you can hear the Brummie twang when we sing 'nineteen eighty twooooo'.
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Hate it HEITS is my preference to Allez Allez Allez.
Horrid song and unoriginal.
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I don't mind it in moderation. However, as I've said in the past, I wish we had a unique-to-us anthem that is part of the Villa tradition. That's about the only thing that our nearest neighbours have over us
That would be nice but and it’s a big but, we all know that after a period of time it would be loathed. Look at Arsenal and their faux anthem, their fans are on board for now. Will it last? An anthem needs a degree of longevity to be seen as an anthem otherwise it all looks too contrived. Holte Enders in the Sky is the nearest we have to one so maybe if we were to sing the full Ghost Riders in the Sky might work. Getting it off the ground would be nigh impossible.
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Its horrible.
But sadly it is our go to dirge.
It’s not even our song. It’s just become that way. And yeh I can’t stand it either.
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I like the My Old Man song, particularly impressive when bellowed out by half a dozen middle aged men in a train carriage mainly composed of families with young children.
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Start your own chants to improve variety.
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Nothing is as bad as this. Nothing.
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I'm sure when I heard that song "Robert" had become "Bobby".
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'Allez' is bearable.
'On the Piss my lord' definitely isn't.
Obsessing over the Bluz is small-time.
I quite like how some clubs have managed to requisition a song for themselves (Stoke / Dililah and Forest / Mull) - could we identify one that could be sung at the beginning and end of a half?
Separately, I like 'when you're smiling' from the old days ...
"When you're smiling, keep on smiling,
The Holte End smiles with you.
And when you're laughing, oh when you're laughing,
The sun comes shining through.
But when you're crying, you bring on the rain,
So stop your sighing, be happy again.
keep on smiling, 'cause when you're smiling,
The Holte End smiles with you"
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I don’t like hi ho Aston Villa, it’s all a bit Wolves for me, but many happy clappers seem to love it.
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The Bells should always be the one.
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The Bells should always be the one.
Didn't work when we brought it back as a walk on tune years ago.
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I don't mind it in moderation. However, as I've said in the past, I wish we had a unique-to-us anthem that is part of the Villa tradition. That's about the only thing that our nearest neighbours have over us
HEITS is the nearest we have and could possibly be reworked into some anthem like they've done with Allez Allez. Innocent little me was a bit perturbed when years back someone on here posted the full version of HEITS and it included a few references to our neighbours! I always just assumed it was some sort of tribute to all the Villa fans who've passed on down the years but clearly not.
Most chants are nicked. Forest in build up to their SF were singing the CL chant "Forest boys taking over..." and Newcastle were singing it last week.
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I always enjoyed hearing a hearty rendition of We Shall Overcome, most popular in the mid to late 1960s.
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I always enjoyed hearing a hearty rendition of We Shall Overcome, most popular in the mid to late 1960s.
We shall not be moved is a decent one if we're hanging on to a big win near the end. I like hearing the Holte in full voice chanting it.
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Our equivalents of Keep Right On in the 50s were Its a long way to get to Wembley and There’ll always be a Villa but clearly hasn’t lasted with time.
Son you’ll be a Villa fan in the 60s.
Never liked the Bells are Ringing because it’s a Cockney tune but some history with Aston Church there.
Just wish we’d sing Villa, Villa, Villa tunefully again
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I don’t like hi ho Aston Villa, it’s all a bit Wolves for me, but many happy clappers seem to love it.
Yeah I think it's a bit shit really. Particularly when the only relevant lyrics are changing silver lining to Aston Villa.
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When I first started going a popular song was "My eyes have seen the glory of the Villa win the Cup...7 times we've won it, no one else can catch us up".
I may have heard it when I went to my first away game at Preston in 1967 and we won 1-0, but in the next round I saw us knocked out at Anfield. We got relegated but the next season convincingly beat Millwall at home in R3, only to then go out in the next round at home to bottom of the table Rotherham. 1969, a brave R5 defeat at Spurs. Two seasons in the 3rd division saw Round One defeats at Torquay and Southend.
Even though we were rubbish, I could gaze at the Argus Annual or Rothmans Yearbook...
List of FA Cup winners - Aston Villa (7), Blackburn Rovers (6), Newcastle (6), Tottenham (5)...
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Never liked the Bells are Ringing because it’s a Cockney tune but some history with Aston Church there.
I've never liked it either, mainly because it's a bit shit.
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Never liked the Bells are Ringing because it’s a Cockney tune but some history with Aston Church there.
I've never liked it either, mainly because it's a bit shit.
Think it was Norwich back in the eighties at Carrow Road,sung throughout the game constantly and loudly
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I think the rendition of "Graham Taylor's Claret and Blue Army' at Goodison many moons ago takes some beating.
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I wish they would use the word 'also' instead of 'even' with regards to 1982.
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In a perfect world, everyone would sing witty, note-perfect adaptations of all my favourite songs.
Given that's not going to happen, I'll settle for the people who have paid loads of money and taken loads of time to support Villa to sing whatever they want to, as well as they're able to.
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The Bells should always be the one.
Norwich League Cup away 1984, Dave? Sang constantly during the game sounding magnificent.
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Awful generic song that now needs to end .
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In a perfect world, everyone would sing witty, note-perfect adaptations of all my favourite songs.
Given that's not going to happen, I'll settle for the people who have paid loads of money and taken loads of time to support Villa to sing whatever they want to, as well as they're able to.
Amen brother.
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Awful generic song that now needs to end .
I look forward to hearing your Arrêtez Arrêtez Arrêtez.
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the bells are ringing , c'mon lets get it back
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When I first started going a popular song was "My eyes have seen the glory of the Villa win the Cup...7 times we've won it, no one else can catch us up".
I may have heard it when I went to my first away game at Preston in 1967 and we won 1-0, but in the next round I saw us knocked out at Anfield. We got relegated but the next season convincingly beat Millwall at home in R3, only to then go out in the next round at home to bottom of the table Rotherham. 1969, a brave R5 defeat at Spurs. Two seasons in the 3rd division saw Round One defeats at Torquay and Southend.
Even though we were rubbish, I could gaze at the Argus Annual or Rothmans Yearbook...
List of FA Cup winners - Aston Villa (7), Blackburn Rovers (6), Newcastle (6), Tottenham (5)...
That 1968 less to Rotherham was my first ever game. Losing at home to bottom of the table Rotherham should have been a warning the FA cup isn’t for me.
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I wish they would use the word 'also' instead of 'even' with regards to 1982.
Was about to point out the same.... The wording makes us a bit smalltime.
Regarding favourite chants, mine would be Dwight Yorke, Dwight Yorke. That being belted out by a raucous Villa Park will live long in the memory.
Annoyed that the Emery song to 'Let it Be' didn't stick - That could have been 'hairs on the back of the neck' good with everyone on song.
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I wish they would use the word 'also' instead of 'even' with regards to 1982.
Was about to point out the same.... The wording makes us a bit smalltime.
Regarding favourite chants, mine would be Dwight Yorke, Dwight Yorke. That being belted out by a raucous Villa Park will live long in the memory.
Annoyed that the Emery song to 'Let it Be' didn't stick - That could have been 'hairs on the back of the neck' good with everyone on song.
I think 'Let it Be' would be just as smalltime and cringeworthy, personally.
Anything that tries to be symphonic from sports fans makes my arsehole pucker up.
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It's a million times better than any of the "my lord" songs, and at least it doesn't mention Birmingham fucking City like seemingly half our chants have to.
If anything pisses me off, it’s the ‘Birmingham, are you listening………..’ shite.
Firstly, why the fuck are they even on our radar ? They should be the furthest thing from our minds.
Secondly, we take the piss out of them, take bets on when we will hear the first ‘shit on the Villa’ when they are on the telly……..yet we are just as bad
What annoys me when they sing Birmingham are you listening it plays into their hands because as we all know we're not in Birmingham and our fans are not from Birmingham. They should sing Small Heath are you listening.
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Never liked the Bells are Ringing because it’s a Cockney tune but some history with Aston Church there.
I've never liked it either, mainly because it's a bit shit.
Think it was Norwich back in the eighties at Carrow Road,sung throughout the game constantly and loudly
Yeah, that was brilliant.
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I actually like Allez, Allez, Allez, yes it is was a song that we weren't the first to use, but someone came up with words that are unique to us. Anyone on the green at Wembley in 2019 that heard it sung when the team coach went by will surely having etched in their memory for ever.
And the CL song from last year was amazing, but has probably had it's day now!
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Also, it isn't "Allez", it is "Ale" (similar pronunciation) - the song isn't French, it's Italian.
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The original lyrics don't seem to include either.
https://www.musixmatch.com/it/testo/Righeira/L-estate-sta-finendo
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The original lyrics don't seem to include either.
https://www.musixmatch.com/it/testo/Righeira/L-estate-sta-finendo
Yeah, we also dropped the 'When the moon hits your eye, Like a big pizza pie' bit.
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The original lyrics don't seem to include either.
https://www.musixmatch.com/it/testo/Righeira/L-estate-sta-finendo
Yeah, I was talking about Napoli, who first adopted the song as a football one, and added the 'Ale Ale Ale'.
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Ah, I was unaware of that. I was sure I heard they nicked it from a Portuguese team.
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I don't mind it in moderation. However, as I've said in the past, I wish we had a unique-to-us anthem that is part of the Villa tradition. That's about the only thing that our nearest neighbours have over us
We've got Holte Enders in the Sky but its all too brief.
That chant's not very inclusive for the other three stands :)
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I don't mind it in moderation. However, as I've said in the past, I wish we had a unique-to-us anthem that is part of the Villa tradition. That's about the only thing that our nearest neighbours have over us
We've got Holte Enders in the Sky but its all too brief.
That chant's not very inclusive for the other three stands :)
I can never get anyone to join in to Doug Ellis in the sky.
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I can never really fathom why there are so many renditions about Blues; we give them air time by singing about them. I don't think there are other teams in the Prem that do it to our extent. We haven't played them in the top flight for over 14 years and only lost once to them in the last 16 meetings. It doesn't make a lot of sense.
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I can never really fathom why there are so many renditions about Blues; we give them air time by singing about them.
Many moons ago on another club's forum, I recall a poster wondering why football fans in Birmingham had such a fixation with defecating on each other. Seemed a valid query to me.
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I suppose 'When you're smiling' has the same design fault as HEITS, as it ends with, "The Holte End Smiles With You-ooo!!!"
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Favourite song for me was the end of 81 beginning of 82 season quite simply " champions" oh to be able to sing that again
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I think the 'Allez' is a good fit for all fans as it doesn't have any swearing, so that families can all get involved
I think most 'new' songs are all copies of what others do, just with slightly amended lyrics
Also, anything too complicated won't ever catch on apart from in small groups who probably practice it in their bedrooms
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Also, it isn't "Allez", it is "Ale" (similar pronunciation) - the song isn't French, it's Italian.
"What's wrong, French lager boy, worried you might gesticulate unnecessarily when saying 'everything's fine, thanks'?"
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If we dress like this to sing it, count me in.
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I quite like it as it has started under the "new era" of villa. Maybe under Dean Smith?
Not all those tosh years of before.
It also doesn't mention "them" which I quite like.We should sing about us, not them.
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If we dress like this to sing it, count me in.
Man, cocaine is a hell of a drug.
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That song is why I visit home in September.
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Ah, I was unaware of that. I was sure I heard they nicked it from a Portuguese team.
I think a few teams in Europe nicked it from Italy and Liverpool copied it from Porto.
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Ta. That's probably where I got mixed up, then.
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L’Aquila are considered the first, other Italian clubs nicked it from them, Porto nicked it from the Italians and after this video Liverpool and loads of European clubs nicked it Porto. IMO Porto is the best version.
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Thanks PW, that’s the version I saw from Porto a few years ago
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I vaguely recall stopping in L'Aquila on the way to Pescara, it housed the Italian version of a Supermax prison where all the Mafia bosses were held.
If that adds anything to the debate?
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I vaguely recall stopping in L'Aquila on the way to Pescara, it housed the Italian version of a Supermax prison where all the Mafia bosses were held.
If that adds anything to the debate?
They should force them to listen to the song on repeat for the whole month of September?
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I can never really fathom why there are so many renditions about Blues; we give them air time by singing about them. I don't think there are other teams in the Prem that do it to our extent. We haven't played them in the top flight for over 14 years and only lost once to them in the last 16 meetings. It doesn't make a lot of sense.
Aye. I'm monumentally sick of that 'Birmingham Are You Listening' dirge.
Gives the rags a relevance they don't merit.
Some of the European sides we've played this year probably haven't heard of SHA and must wonder why we're so openly proud of defecating on our hometown and telling the world about it.
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What was that new song being sung at the Vitality yesterday?
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What was that new song being sung at the Vitality yesterday?
"Europe away allez allez" although ahead of next weekend it should have been 'FA cup allez allez', where the potential of some actual silverware was a reality up to a certain point on semi-final weekend.
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What was that new song being sung at the Vitality yesterday?
Woke up this morning feeling fine
Got Aston Villa on my mind
Unai has got us playing
The way we should
Something tells me that I'm into something good
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I can never really fathom why there are so many renditions about Blues; we give them air time by singing about them. I don't think there are other teams in the Prem that do it to our extent. We haven't played them in the top flight for over 14 years and only lost once to them in the last 16 meetings. It doesn't make a lot of sense.
It's not really hard to fathom is it. Blues are our nearest rivals and always will be.
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What was that new song being sung at the Vitality yesterday?
Woke up this morning feeling fine
Got Aston Villa on my mind
Unai has got us playing
The way we should
Something tells me that I'm into something good
At long last a new very decent song.
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Yes I really like that !
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What was that new song being sung at the Vitality yesterday?
Woke up this morning feeling fine
Got Aston Villa on my mind
Unai has got us playing
The way we should
Something tells me that I'm into something good
Catchy I like it.
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The Guardian report mentioned it and I thought they'd got mixed up with another club who I'm sure same this. Can't remember who it is though...
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What was that new song being sung at the Vitality yesterday?
Woke up this morning feeling fine
Got Aston Villa on my mind
Unai has got us playing
The way we should
Something tells me that I'm into something good
Who'd have thought 1960's beat combo Herman's Hermits would be revived by The Holte?
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Have we nicked it off anyone else?
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Who'd have thought 1960's beat combo Herman's Hermits would be revived by The Holte?
I was hoping it would be The Zombies and 'Time Of The Season'.
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On the subject of songs can someone offer me the lyrics to the one that mentions the current players ending in the line " and one of our own"
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I think it is
Follow follow follow
We’ve got the greatest midfield in the world.
Bouba Kamara, Barkley, Onana
Youri is one of our own
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Youri and one of our own, to refer to Ramsey.
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“Youri and one of our own” (Ramsey)
I think it could squeeze McGinn in…
“Ginny, Kamara…”
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Someone was trying to get one going at the Fulham game about McGinn involving Meatball Marinara being the premium option at Subway but it seemed a tad over-ambitious.
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Have we nicked it off anyone else?
A mate reckons Manyoo
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They don't
Have we nicked it off anyone else?
A mate reckons Manyoo
They don't count....ever
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Have we nicked it off anyone else?
A mate reckons Manyoo
That figures. HH were a Manc band, and Manure have a song writer coming up with many of their ditties. Who'd have thought 1960's beat combo Herman's Hermits would be revived by The Holte?
I was hoping it would be The Zombies and 'Time Of The Season'.
Hope as ye may, it was the Manc band HH that spawned the song.