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Title: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on January 30, 2025, 03:07:49 PM
Saturday KO 17.30 Live on Skysports. 

Tricky one after the highs of last night and would be very typical given our record against them to be bought down to earth. 

Alternatively it could be we are on a high and steamroller into this one with Ollie having new found vigour now that Jhon is off.

1-2.

Edit sorry can someone add Villa to the Aston bit - I thought it was going to auto update and it didn't.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on January 30, 2025, 03:29:12 PM
2-1 to Aston
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: PhilVill on January 30, 2025, 03:33:48 PM
Villa 100%. Pure adrenaline from last night will get them through
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Tayls_7 on January 30, 2025, 03:41:44 PM
Can I thank you for starting this match thread in timely fashion and in accordance with the newly promulgated regulations.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 30, 2025, 03:42:07 PM
Them 1 Us 3
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 30, 2025, 03:54:45 PM
Is Aston the same as when knuckleheads refer to Man U as Manchester?
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: wince on January 30, 2025, 03:55:34 PM
Is Aston the same as when knuckleheads refer to Man U as Manchester?
He butters bacon sandwiches as well
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: jon collett on January 30, 2025, 04:38:18 PM
Is Aston the same as when knuckleheads refer to Man U as Manchester?


The one name any genuine Manchester United supporter would never refer to them is Man U. They hate it! Easy way to identify glory hunters.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on January 30, 2025, 04:42:51 PM
All the Wolves fans who I work with are convinced we are going to steamroller them. I have of course set them straight.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on January 30, 2025, 05:02:50 PM
Can we unsettle Cunah by making a bid on Friday night so that he's left out of their team?
Could be the difference in a draw or a defeat.

Can't see us wininng, we never really do there and they'll have had extra time to impart their gameplan like WHam did on Sunday. All things being equal i.e rest and recovery, we'd have got 6 points from these two games. As it is, we're probably looking at 1 or 2.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on January 30, 2025, 05:05:08 PM
They will sing their little songs pretending to be Small Heath, and we will funeral them. 
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on January 30, 2025, 05:18:13 PM
Wolves' traditional only good performance of the season + no defenders available = home win.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on January 30, 2025, 05:25:07 PM
I fear a bit of a slog. 1-1
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on January 30, 2025, 06:57:52 PM
I have a feeling its going to be a flat performance as we put so much in Wednesday  night. Would be understandable though considering.  We certainly  will need some rotation but not may options as we have let a hell of a lot of players go and not bought  anyone in. Was hoping at least get one in today to be registered  in time for wolves. Unlikley  now
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: stubbsyandy on January 30, 2025, 07:12:55 PM
Is JPA available?
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 30, 2025, 07:23:46 PM
I suspect this’ll be a big struggle. I reckon we’ll lose.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ian. on January 30, 2025, 07:29:22 PM
All the Wolves fans who I work with are convinced we are going to steamroller them. I have of course set them straight.

Because of my dad, I do have a soft spot them, until this fixture. I’m generally a positive thinker and optimistic, but never against Wolves.

If I was you I wouldn’t be looking forward to work on Monday.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dave on January 30, 2025, 07:30:17 PM
I have a feeling its going to be a flat performance as we put so much in Wednesday  night. Would be understandable though considering.

Agreed. But if anyone wants a good omen, the only game we've won following a Champions League match this season was in the previous Wolves fixture.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 30, 2025, 07:51:53 PM
We've only won 1 league game after a CL game this season. And that was Wolves.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on January 30, 2025, 08:52:40 PM
2-0
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: avfcdale on January 30, 2025, 08:53:57 PM
Still can't stand them for taking Andy Gray. Knobbers
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on January 30, 2025, 09:10:33 PM
Still can't stand them for taking Andy Gray. Knobbers

Andy was crocked and Sir Ron knew what he was doing.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: BoVillan esq on January 30, 2025, 09:16:05 PM
Going for a Villa win, only problem I have with that is how we perform after midweek CL game.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: stevo_st on January 30, 2025, 09:19:47 PM
Another Morgan hat trick please
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on January 30, 2025, 09:52:57 PM
I was going to try to come up with a lineup, but I’ve no clue what kind of defence Villa will be able to cobble together.

4-4
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on January 30, 2025, 10:01:59 PM
Maybe Mings back for this as I feel we need Bouba in the middle
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Villafirst on January 30, 2025, 10:06:28 PM
We're really down to the bare bones - this will be tough as yet again only a 2 day clear break from the Celtic game. We really need reinforcements fast! I hope Ollie doesn't get injured! I think we'll draw 1-1.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on January 30, 2025, 10:09:06 PM
We might have three keepers on the bench at this rate
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on January 30, 2025, 10:14:54 PM
Doubt it, we've just loaned one of them out.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on January 30, 2025, 10:20:52 PM
Doubt it, we've just loaned one of them out.

Agent emery jr it is then !
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on January 30, 2025, 10:24:42 PM
I was going to try to come up with a lineup, but I’ve no clue what kind of defence Villa will be able to cobble together.

4-4

Guess it will be Bogarde, Konsa, Kamara, Digne
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: AV84 on January 30, 2025, 10:29:40 PM
Hopefully the new players start for this game. And the likes of McGinn, who has been out for a while, and Maatsen start too. We're always slow after a CL game, and we really need to start making up ground on the top 5.

Side note - I saw last night that various results mean the coefficient is looking very good for 5th place this season. Which unfortunately we might need.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 31, 2025, 04:11:02 AM
So this is another game with one fit centre back. Now, Bouba did brilliantly the other day but obviously him being back there weakens the the midfield.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Aldridge Villa on January 31, 2025, 06:13:32 AM
Due a swashbuckling performance here. However my optimism always dissipates as I approach J10. One apiece as per last season.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: itmustbe_it is! on January 31, 2025, 06:45:18 AM
Another game with a bunch of throwback opposition fans
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on January 31, 2025, 07:31:19 AM
                       Martinez
Bogarde Konsa Kamara Maatsen

          SJM    Tielemans
      Bailey Rogers Ramsey
                 Malen
 
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on January 31, 2025, 07:33:41 AM
Another game with a bunch of throwback opposition fans
Living in Wordsley I m surrounded by them. They hardly peep before we play them. always acting that "we'me only likkle these days and the Villa is bestest" then ramp up some imaginary rivalry for 48 hours before slinking off again. Simply maintaining a dignified and disdainful demeanour around the oiks works.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on January 31, 2025, 07:40:41 AM
                       Martinez
Bogarde Konsa Kamara Maatsen

          SJM    Tielemans
      Bailey Rogers Ramsey
                 Malen
 

I a, confident that will not be how we line up. Maatsen is too much of a risk and would seem crazy to drop Watkins.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: sid1964 on January 31, 2025, 08:14:27 AM
I can hear the Wolves fan singing "champions league your having a laugh" - hope we do not lose!
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on January 31, 2025, 08:17:21 AM
Another game with a bunch of throwback opposition fans

I'm surprised they don't get fined more by Uefa for their flares.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Nev on January 31, 2025, 08:36:26 AM
As the Ford Capri disappears into the distance, belching smoke, black and gold fully dice swinging from the rear view mirror, you can just about make out distant singing from the occupants, something about a gap......

It'll do a U turn if they get anything against us tomorrow, the toothless driver tooting and laughing no doubt and with our injury situation confidence is dented somewhat. The euphoria of midweek will be a benefit or a scourge and the conundrum of where to play Kamara is key. I'd be tempted to keep him in the back line and try to be solid, giving confidence to the forwards. It'll be tougher than it really should be.

1-1
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: London Villan on January 31, 2025, 08:49:15 AM
Martinez

Garcia
Kamara
Konza
Digne

Bogarde
Teilemans
McGinn
Ramsey

Watkins
Rogers
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on January 31, 2025, 09:55:09 AM
I can hear the Wolves fan singing "champions league your having a laugh" - hope we do not lose!

That 'joke' isn't viable anymore though is it.  And there is a very obvious musical riposte given their league position. 

I think we will batter them.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on January 31, 2025, 09:56:22 AM
I can hear the Wolves fan singing "champions league your having a laugh" - hope we do not lose!

"Youm having a laugh", shirley?
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: danno on January 31, 2025, 10:03:34 AM
I can hear the Wolves fan singing "champions league your having a laugh" - hope we do not lose!

Better get that checked out, yam be in trouble when tham voices start tellin yow to burn fings.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on January 31, 2025, 10:22:14 AM
Champions league, you're having a laugh. When you finish top 8 and automatically qualify ahead of Bayern, Juve, PSG, Man City and Real Madrid it doesn't work.

So they'll sing it. More denim than brain cells.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on January 31, 2025, 11:04:00 AM
Hope we are not too tired  after Wednesday  night. Having a derby this week is ideal in terms of travel but not really afixture you wnat after such a hard fought game midweek.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on January 31, 2025, 11:07:41 AM
Them 1 Us 3
This. Watkins on fire knowing he’s the main man again, with 2 and Ramsey
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on January 31, 2025, 11:23:44 AM
Anticlimax incoming: 1-0 them, with a calamitous own goal arising from yet another defensive error.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on January 31, 2025, 11:32:02 AM
i can not see us keeping a clean sheet, so we need to score 2 or 3,
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on January 31, 2025, 11:46:07 AM
                     Martinez
Bogarde  Konsa       Mings     Digne
                 Kamara Tielemans
Bailey              Rogers          Ramsey
                     Watkins

Subs:
Malen for Bailey 61
Maatsen for Digne 61
McGinn for Tielemans 67
Garcia for Bogarde 67
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard on January 31, 2025, 11:50:25 AM
                     Martinez
Bogarde  Konsa       Mings     Digne
                 Kamara Tielemans
Bailey              Rogers          Ramsey
                     Watkins

Subs:
Malen for Bailey 61
Maatsen for Digne 61
McGinn for Tielemans 67
Garcia for Bogarde 67


Mings is fit?
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Smithy on January 31, 2025, 11:51:30 AM
                     Martinez
Bogarde  Konsa       Mings     Digne
                 Kamara Tielemans
Bailey              Rogers          Ramsey
                     Watkins

Subs:
Malen for Bailey 61
Maatsen for Digne 61
McGinn for Tielemans 67
Garcia for Bogarde 67


I thought Mings was out for "a couple of weeks"?  Did I hear that wrong?  I've assumed Konsa will again be our only fit first team centre-half?
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on January 31, 2025, 11:52:18 AM
We'll find out in a couple of hours.... I'm gambling!
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on January 31, 2025, 11:55:49 AM
Hard to pick a team really. If Mings isnt back I guess Kamara will stay at LCB with McGinn back into midfield. Bogarde looks really uncomfortable at RB but we don't have another option it looks like. Digne was poor during the week so wondering if Emery might chance Maatsen on left for a bit more energy. From memory Matt Doherty plays on the right and he can't/won't defend so opportunities there for Ramsey to target him.

From what I've seen of Wolves this season they aren't as bad as their league position suggests. They seem to have a few temperamental sorts, likes of Cunha, Ait Nouri, who could cause us lots of problems if focused but drop the head quickly if things aren't going their way. Gomes in midfield is suspended thankfully.

Match them for intensity and we will win. Start off with a hangover from midweek and we won't. It's piss poor from Monchi not to have a fit experienced CB signed in time for this game. That cost us two points last week and likely will do again.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dave on January 31, 2025, 11:57:46 AM
Bogarde looks really uncomfortable at RB but we don't have another option it looks like.

We just spend €7m on a right-back.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Beard82 on January 31, 2025, 11:59:41 AM
                     Martinez
Bogarde  Konsa       Mings     Digne
                 Kamara Tielemans
      McGinn     Rogers          Ramsey
                     Watkins

More protection for Bogarde

Or without mings

                     Martinez
Ned       Konsa       Kamara    Digne
                 Bogarde Tielemans
    McGinn       Rogers     Ramsey
                     Watkins
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on January 31, 2025, 12:00:25 PM
There's just no way he's going to play Nedeljkovic.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Beard82 on January 31, 2025, 12:00:28 PM
Bogarde looks really uncomfortable at RB but we don't have another option it looks like.

We just spend €7m on a right-back.
Ah yeah thats a good point think we all forget about him.  Does he know?
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on January 31, 2025, 12:00:44 PM
Id rather  have kamara in dcm protecting the back four and have bogarde  cb with konsa tbh
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard on January 31, 2025, 01:22:55 PM
Think Kamara is a better CH than Bogarde, and the latter looks more comfortable in midfield so I'd go with that.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dave on January 31, 2025, 01:25:27 PM
Think Kamara is a better CH than Bogarde, and the latter looks more comfortable in midfield so I'd go with that.

Yup, part of Kamara's display on Wednesday was his Torres impression of bringing the ball out and passing it from LCB.

That appears to be a big part of how we do things, so while it would be nice if he could play both positions, it's probably more important that he's further back.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on January 31, 2025, 01:40:07 PM
Kamara did lose a couple of footraces against Celtic players on Weds, it's probably his main weakness and I imagine Wolves will try to exploit that.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Luffbralion on January 31, 2025, 01:43:49 PM
Just spoken to a Wolves fan who reckons "Cunha's heads gone".  I hope that is the case on Saturday.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Matt C on January 31, 2025, 02:12:02 PM
Cash and Mings both out, Unai said in the press conference.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on January 31, 2025, 02:32:14 PM
Cash and Mings both out, Unai said in the press conference.

Mentions Barkley but no mention of glass legs Onana
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on January 31, 2025, 02:33:33 PM
They are missing the big lug upfront with a muscle injury and their Bouby with Flu.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard on January 31, 2025, 02:35:11 PM
They have a few out too.

Think it will be something like:

Emi

Garcia
Digne
Konsa
Kamara

Bogarde
Youri

McGinn
Rogers
Ramsey

Ollie

Subs - Olsen, Ned, Maatsen, Bailey, Malen, kids

With 5 out we are down to the bare bones though!
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on January 31, 2025, 02:45:23 PM
I think we'll win 1-3


Martinez

Garcia Kamara Konsa Digne
         Boarge   Tielemans   
McGinn  Rogers   Ramsey
       Watkins
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on January 31, 2025, 02:55:42 PM
They have a few out too.

Think it will be something like:

Emi

Garcia
Digne
Konsa
Kamara

Bogarde
Youri

McGinn
Rogers
Ramsey

Ollie

Subs - Olsen, Ned, Maatsen, Bailey, Malen, kids

With 5 out we are down to the bare bones though!

Garcia straight in would be very unlike Emery. Might not have any other option, mind. We aren't keeping a clean sheet really so those three supporting Watkins will be key.

Wouldn't be surprised if Watkins bounced back from those misses during the week. From memory those Wolves centre backs are quite green/naive. Craig Dawson might be picked for that reason.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on January 31, 2025, 02:58:18 PM
Whoever plays right side will be up against it with Ait Nouri. If we didn't already have decent LBs I would have floated his name a few times as an option.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dave on January 31, 2025, 03:06:23 PM
Molineux Mix seems very downbeat about their chances. So that's good.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on January 31, 2025, 03:18:11 PM
Molineux Mix seems very downbeat about their chances. So that's good.

Was those posts from Costalophulus D by any chance?
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on January 31, 2025, 03:38:52 PM
Who is their "big lug" upfront, the chap that sounds like a character from Forbrydelsen (The Killing - the original and superior Dansk version, home to Troels Haartmann)?
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Villafirst on January 31, 2025, 03:40:36 PM
Kamara did lose a couple of footraces against Celtic players on Weds, it's probably his main weakness and I imagine Wolves will try to exploit that.

Agree, we have to watch Cunha who is rapid....
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: astonvilla82 on January 31, 2025, 03:51:30 PM
If Wolverhampton win there support will be happy to be relegated because they beat da villa yam yam
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on January 31, 2025, 03:58:36 PM
If Wolverhampton win there support will be happy to be relegated because they beat da villa yam yam

Well let's just beat them and help them achieve the former.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on January 31, 2025, 04:06:49 PM
They're better than Celtic so no need for fucking about with the ball at the back too much as our defence isn't up to it. I don't fancy Bogarde as a full back at all.  They'd exploit it to the full.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: TelfordVilla on January 31, 2025, 04:33:54 PM
Surely Garcia at full back. Ķamara at CB and Bogart in midfield
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dave on January 31, 2025, 04:36:29 PM
Surely Garcia at full back. Ķamara at CB and Bogart in midfield

Or a return to the Arsenal-destroying sitting midfield of McGinn and Tielemans with Bailey / Rogers / Ramsey ahead of them.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on January 31, 2025, 04:40:48 PM
Kamara is our best midfielder. Play him in midfield.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: VillaTim on January 31, 2025, 04:44:10 PM
------- Martinez -------
Garcia Konsa Bogarde Digne
--- Kamara --- McGinn --
Bailey  ------------- Ramsey
--- Rogers --- Watkins ---
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dave on January 31, 2025, 04:44:33 PM
Kamara is our best midfielder. Play him in midfield.

But he's arguably our best centre-back as well at the moment.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on January 31, 2025, 04:45:19 PM
Kamara is our best midfielder. Play him in midfield.
He also looked like our best defender on Wednesday. I think he’s just our best player to be honest.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on January 31, 2025, 04:45:27 PM
Surely Garcia at full back. Ķamara at CB and Bogart in midfield

Or a return to the Arsenal-destroying sitting midfield of McGinn and Tielemans with Bailey / Rogers / Ramsey ahead of them.

There is that.

Kamara is our best midfielder. Play him in midfield.

And there is that.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on January 31, 2025, 04:46:54 PM
Kamara is our best midfielder. Play him in midfield.

But he's arguably our best centre-back as well at the moment.

Clone him and play him in both positions.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on January 31, 2025, 05:17:35 PM
Kamara is our best midfielder. Play him in midfield.
He also looked like our best defender on Wednesday. I think he’s just our best player to be honest.

You might well be right. I just feel that when we're at our best, it's down to our midfield, and I wouldn't want to risk that.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on January 31, 2025, 05:21:40 PM
Kamara is our best midfielder. Play him in midfield.
He also looked like our best defender on Wednesday. I think he’s just our best player to be honest.

You might well be right. I just feel that when we're at our best, it's down to our midfield, and I wouldn't want to risk that.
Oh i completely agree with you, Im just not sure about the alternatives at the back at the moment. Hopefully just this game to get through, before we get Mings back.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on January 31, 2025, 05:25:49 PM
Think Kamara is a better CH than Bogarde, and the latter looks more comfortable in midfield so I'd go with that.

My worry is celtic are pretty shit. Cunha is a much better player than anything celtic have.

Its a hard one for me with limited options  we have. I simply cannot believe we have not signed another cb for this game. If konsa gets injured  we are totally effed.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on January 31, 2025, 05:27:14 PM
Kamara is our best midfielder. Play him in midfield.
He also looked like our best defender on Wednesday. I think he’s just our best player to be honest.

You might well be right. I just feel that when we're at our best, it's down to our midfield, and I wouldn't want to risk that.
Oh i completely agree with you, Im just not sure about the alternatives at the back at the moment. Hopefully just this game to get through, before we get Mings back.

Digne - Bogarde - Konsa - Garcia

IMO. If Digne goes off, bring on Maatsen. If any of the others go off, panic.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on January 31, 2025, 05:40:41 PM
Think Kamara is a better CH than Bogarde, and the latter looks more comfortable in midfield so I'd go with that.

My worry is celtic are pretty shit. Cunha is a much better player than anything celtic have.

Its a hard one for me with limited options  we have. I simply cannot believe we have not signed another cb for this game. If konsa gets injured  we are totally effed.

There you go over-dramatizing again....
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Mister E on January 31, 2025, 05:45:10 PM
Id rather  have kamara in dcm protecting the back four and have bogarde  cb with konsa tbh
Totally the reverse. Kamara was brilliant at LCB, and Bogarde is better in front of a back four.
The key question is RB: I'd play Nedeljkovic but I can't see Emery trusting him, which is a big disappointment.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Mister E on January 31, 2025, 05:49:23 PM
Id rather  have kamara in dcm protecting the back four and have bogarde  cb with konsa tbh
Totally the reverse. Kamara was brilliant at LCB, and Bogarde is better in front of a back four.
The key question is RB: I'd play Nedeljkovic but I can't see Emery trusting him, which is a big disappointment.
... and, there's no way he'd play Bogarde and Garcia in the same back four at this time; would he?!!
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on January 31, 2025, 06:01:57 PM
Think Kamara is a better CH than Bogarde, and the latter looks more comfortable in midfield so I'd go with that.

My worry is celtic are pretty shit. Cunha is a much better player than anything celtic have.

Its a hard one for me with limited options  we have. I simply cannot believe we have not signed another cb for this game. If konsa gets injured  we are totally effed.

There you go over-dramatizing again....

Or just having a opinion drummond.

Over dramatising is saying im absolutely  terrfield of playing bogarde at cb which i havent done so i really dont understand  your comment at all
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on January 31, 2025, 06:04:13 PM
Id rather  have kamara in dcm protecting the back four and have bogarde  cb with konsa tbh
Totally the reverse. Kamara was brilliant at LCB, and Bogarde is better in front of a back four.
The key question is RB: I'd play Nedeljkovic but I can't see Emery trusting him, which is a big disappointment.
... and, there's no way he'd play Bogarde and Garcia in the same back four at this time; would he?!!

Is garcia definitely starting? If thats the case yeah i would agree  would not be sensible to play him and bogarde right now.

We should have had a replacement for carlos by now. Its massively gambling leaving it so late in the window
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on January 31, 2025, 06:35:10 PM
Who is their "big lug" upfront, the chap that sounds like a character from Forbrydelsen (The Killing - the original and superior Dansk version, home to Troels Haartmann)?
Strand Larsen?  He's Norwegian and generally shit but pops up with more than the odd goal.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Nev on January 31, 2025, 06:50:49 PM
He's out injured.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Tony Daleys Shorts on January 31, 2025, 06:53:16 PM
Incoming hat-trick for Ollie now his mates gone.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 31, 2025, 07:33:01 PM
Wolves are shit. They're 18th for a reason, they're shit. We do our job and it's a comfortable 3 points.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: TelfordVilla on January 31, 2025, 07:46:57 PM
Wolves are shit. They're 18th for a reason, they're shit. We do our job and it's a comfortable 3 points.
West ham were abysmal last week but we failed to put them away. Wulfs always seem to raise their game for their cup final.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 31, 2025, 08:01:14 PM
Wolves are shit. They're 18th for a reason, they're shit. We do our job and it's a comfortable 3 points.
West ham were abysmal last week but we failed to put them away. Wulfs always seem to raise their game for their cup final.

That's because we didn't do our job, we went to shit. That's why we didn't win, because as you say, they were shit.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 31, 2025, 08:03:03 PM
That’s true, but in fairness there’s a pretty clear trend of us not doing our job after midweek European games.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 31, 2025, 08:06:37 PM
And if we don't then that's on us as Wolves will be shit, same as they are week after week.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: ozzjim on January 31, 2025, 09:58:40 PM
We've got one for centre half, we'll be paying Tielemans holding when he's far better further forward, and no senior for right back. If we get a draw it will be a miracle. Garcia has to pay right back, Bogarde holding mid.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 31, 2025, 10:26:47 PM
And if we don't then that's on us as Wolves will be shit, same as they are week after week.

Well yeah, but we do keep doing it and we have also stacked the deck against ourselves by having 1 fit senior centre half. Hopefully we’ll through it and put in a strong display.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on January 31, 2025, 11:17:27 PM
We've got one for centre half, we'll be paying Tielemans holding when he's far better further forward, and no senior for right back. If we get a draw it will be a miracle. Garcia has to pay right back, Bogarde holding mid.
It won’t be a miracle to get a draw at Wolves. Defensive issues aside, we have Tielemans, Kamara, McGinn, Ramsey, Bogarde, all available in midfield and Rogers, Watkins, Bailey, Malen available up top. Not bad really and no miracles needed to put this lot away.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 31, 2025, 11:34:03 PM
I could have sworn we were playing Wolves, the side that's 18th, lost 4 in a row, won 4 all season and have conceded 52 in 23 games which is only 1 better than the truly abysmal Southampton. We could play Olsen at CB and twat them.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on January 31, 2025, 11:53:05 PM
We are usually shit at Wolves. We have loads of injuries in defence. As you yourself have said before, our defence isn't always reliable even when they are at full strength. We've only won one domestic away game since October. The last time we "twatted" a current Premier League team away from home, Dean Smith was still the manager, and Donald Trump was in his first term.

Of course, we could win. Even with our injuries, our team is better than theirs. Not sure why you'd be so desperate to castigate anyone for saying we won't pulverise them, though. The evidence suggests that Villa twatting Wolves is significantly less likely than Villa dropping points against Wolves.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 01, 2025, 12:02:58 AM
It's bonkers to act like they are anything other than utter shit and as though us getting a result against them would be an act Moses (not Remi) would be proud of. The evidence shows that we are a far far better side than them, and as I originally said, it's up to us to show that as they'll be as shit as ever.

Which part of that post is incorrect? That they are shit or that if we do our job we win?
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on February 01, 2025, 12:05:20 AM
The arrogant, Man Unitedesque, assumption, not just of victory but of comfortable victory, despite evidence is incorrect, obviously. Ipswich, Monaco and Club Brugge are all shit, we didn't twat any of them.

It's hardly "bonkers" to suggest that it's possible that we might not win at a ground we've won once at since 2012.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 01, 2025, 12:11:11 AM
What arrogance thinking a side in the CL and hoping to be there again next season will beat a shit side in 18th if we do our job.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on February 01, 2025, 12:17:49 AM
There's thinking we might win and then there's...

We could play Olsen at CB and twat them.

Even that's fine but it's weird how you wanted to criticise anyone who didn't share your fervour.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 01, 2025, 12:19:24 AM
Of course in your posting career you've never once used humour and hyperbole to exaggerate a point.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 01, 2025, 12:23:05 AM
They replied to me, so I replied. It's how a forum works. I made a statement that no one has said is wrong on the pre-match thread and it was others that disagreed.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on February 01, 2025, 12:23:52 AM
It was post after post of how offended you were that anyone thought we might not win  that was just a hyperbolic example.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: LukeJames on February 01, 2025, 12:24:37 AM
They don't seem very interested in that manufactured rivalry any more. Strange that.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 01, 2025, 12:26:50 AM
It was post after post of how offended you were that anyone thought we might not win  that was just a hyperbolic example.

You mean 2 reply posts before you decided to wade in? Yep, you never use hyperbole.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on February 01, 2025, 12:26:56 AM
They're massive twats. I hope we twat them. I suspect we won't and it was madness letting Carlos go before we signed a centre-half. We will see.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on February 01, 2025, 01:25:19 AM
They're massive twats. I hope we twat them. I suspect we won't and it was madness letting Carlos go before we signed a centre-half. We will see.

Yup - it’s absolutely true that we’re a better side and if we play to our best we’ll win. But we have been patchy this year, we regularly struggle after European games, we’ve got terrible away form, we’ve got loads of injuries, and we’ve made the situation worse by choosing to weaken ourselves at centre half. It’s on us to turn up, but there’s plenty of head winds here.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on February 01, 2025, 01:30:58 AM
I'd be delighted if we shitfest an undeserved win against the run of play. Can't remember the last time we did that. Mind you, I don't think we're set up for shitfesting. We need to win 5-4.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on February 01, 2025, 09:31:37 AM
All the points about our away form and our record at Molineux are fair, but one of the early points suggested it would be a miracle to get a result there today. It really wouldn’t, we are very much capable of beating them.
None of us know whats going on behind the scenes, but if Ollie is staying and has been told he’s Emery’s chosen one, it would be very ollie to go on a great run, starting with a couple here today.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Three Spires Villa on February 01, 2025, 09:40:19 AM
Who plays right back? Bogarde, feel sorry for him, a lad that’s never played in the top flight, feel sorry for him, Ned? Nah Unai don’t rate him, feel sorry for him. Going to Wolves with a great chance of getting a result, and 1 centre half, what a situation we have put ourselves in.

Play Ned more so he has more experience, could have happened, don’t sell Carlos in January, we could have kept him. Crazy situation
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Nii Lamptey on February 01, 2025, 10:03:43 AM
Everything points to a defeat today. With our ramshackle defense against Cunha.... I can't see that changing.

Would be bloody lovely though!
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: AV84 on February 01, 2025, 10:09:05 AM
The fact we're never great against them at theirs, and our post CL game record this season, and our injuries, all point to a bad day for us.

However, I'm hoping there's some kind of team spirit from Duran leaving and Ollie staying that will kick in for 90 minutes and we might actually get a result today.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on February 01, 2025, 11:06:13 AM
All the points about our away form and our record at Molineux are fair, but one of the early points suggested it would be a miracle to get a result there today. It really wouldn’t, we are very much capable of beating them.
None of us know whats going on behind the scenes, but if Ollie is staying and has been told he’s Emery’s chosen one, it would be very ollie to go on a great run, starting with a couple here today.

It won’t be a miracle at all, but it does require us bucking several trends.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on February 01, 2025, 12:14:20 PM
Everything points to a defeat today. With our ramshackle defense against Cunha.... I can't see that changing.

Would be bloody lovely though!

Everything points to a defeat?

Like the fact that Wolves have lost 4 in a row, have only won 4 times all season, have the second worst defensive record in the league and are in the bottom 3. They might beat us but if they do it will be against the odds.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on February 01, 2025, 12:27:38 PM
Everything points to a defeat today. With our ramshackle defense against Cunha.... I can't see that changing.

Would be bloody lovely though!

Everything points to a defeat?

Like the fact that Wolves have lost 4 in a row, have only won 4 times all season, have the second worst defensive record in the league and are in the bottom 3. They might beat us but if they do it will be against the odds.
I'm with you but then i always have been a glass half full type of person when it comes to the Villa!
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Goldenballs on February 01, 2025, 12:34:15 PM
Everything points to a defeat today. With our ramshackle defense against Cunha.... I can't see that changing.

Would be bloody lovely though!

Everything points to a defeat?

Like the fact that Wolves have lost 4 in a row, have only won 4 times all season, have the second worst defensive record in the league and are in the bottom 3. They might beat us but if they do it will be against the odds.

I dunno, this seems to be the perfect time for them for Villa to rock up...
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: VillaTim on February 01, 2025, 12:52:14 PM
Watkins is in fine form as is Ramsey and Rogers , 3-2 villa win .
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on February 01, 2025, 12:55:39 PM
Watkins is in fine form as is Ramsey and Rogers , 3-2 villa win .
Agree, apart from i think it’ll be 3-1
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Nii Lamptey on February 01, 2025, 01:00:10 PM
Everything points to a defeat today. With our ramshackle defense against Cunha.... I can't see that changing.

Would be bloody lovely though!

Everything points to a defeat?

Like the fact that Wolves have lost 4 in a row, have only won 4 times all season, have the second worst defensive record in the league and are in the bottom 3. They might beat us but if they do it will be against the odds.

Yep... it's what we do. Maybe I'm just setting myself up to be disappointed, so that anything more is a bonus?
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 01, 2025, 01:08:43 PM
We've won 1 game after a CL match, against Wolves.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: andyh on February 01, 2025, 01:13:06 PM
Who plays right back? Bogarde, feel sorry for him, a lad that’s never played in the top flight, feel sorry for him, Ned? Nah Unai don’t rate him, feel sorry for him. Going to Wolves with a great chance of getting a result, and 1 centre half, what a situation we have put ourselves in.

Play Ned more so he has more experience, could have happened, don’t sell Carlos in January, we could have kept him. Crazy situation
I’m so sorry, but I’m trying to read this without thinking you are on crack.
Meant in the nicest possible way 😂
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: colin69 on February 01, 2025, 02:22:40 PM
Got a feeling we will put in a good performance later and 2-1 or 3-1 to us.
Fancy Watkins to get a couple.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: jon collett on February 01, 2025, 02:29:59 PM
Still nervous about the defence but the best thing about us at the moment is the form Ramsay is in so him combining with a more confident Watkins and with Rogers should be too much for Wolves. Bailey showing signs he is getting more confident albeit against Celtic’s defence. Basically we’ve got to score more than we let in!
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: AV82EC on February 01, 2025, 03:40:33 PM
A slightly missed fact from Wednesday night was Baileys improving form, he was still only a 6/10 for me but he looked much more of a threat going forward.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on February 01, 2025, 03:59:18 PM
Bailey was at his best when alongside or rotating with Diaby. I think he's always going to be better when we are able to rest him regularly, and so I'm hoping that Malen and presumably Rashford will bring out the best in him.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard on February 01, 2025, 04:05:46 PM
Onana spotted arriving with team at Molineux.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Tuscans on February 01, 2025, 04:05:47 PM
Onana has travelled
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on February 01, 2025, 04:05:59 PM
A slightly missed fact from Wednesday night was Baileys improving form, he was still only a 6/10 for me but he looked much more of a threat going forward.

He was much more dynamic in the second half
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on February 01, 2025, 04:09:59 PM
Onana spotted arriving with team at Molineux.

Just saw that. Better news
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: aldridgeboy on February 01, 2025, 04:17:22 PM
Onana not in squad. Garcia Starts. Bailey on bench.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 01, 2025, 04:18:11 PM
Onana not in squad. Garcia Starts. Bailey on bench.

Onana is on the bench.
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: aldridgeboy on February 01, 2025, 04:18:30 PM

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Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 01, 2025, 04:19:22 PM
Good to see swinkels on bench if we pick a injury. Also onana back which is good news
Title: Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread
Post by: aldridgeboy on February 01, 2025, 04:33:49 PM
Onana not in squad. Garcia Starts. Bailey on bench.

Onana is on the bench.

I blame my old eyesight.
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