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Title: Boxing 2025
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 11, 2025, 05:46:50 PM
It all starts again on TV tonight. Caroline Dubois might be interesting.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 11, 2025, 09:36:22 PM
And very unlucky. Meanwhile we have Steed Woodall from Birmingham fighting for a British title and any idea of wanting the local man to win is overshadowed by the certain knowledge that the Proper Brummies will claim him as one of theirs.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Demitri_C on January 13, 2025, 02:35:24 PM
Fury retires apparently

I bet its just a ploy to get more money out of the saudis for aj vs fury
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Gareth on January 13, 2025, 03:17:03 PM
We can but hope but equally sceptical
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: manic-road on January 13, 2025, 03:37:15 PM
Hope he has retired for good, no point in a fight with AJ as no title would be involved. AJ should do the same considering the losses he has built up recently.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Villa Lew on January 13, 2025, 03:49:57 PM
It seems Boxing, more than any other sport, is where the participant announces his retirement, then ends up later returning to his sport.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on January 13, 2025, 05:57:27 PM
Yeah, it's the least reliable retirement out there. I fully expect him to be back at some point, even if against some youtube twat in 10 years.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Demitri_C on January 13, 2025, 09:05:08 PM
Fury has even said without boxing his life is meaningless so what does he do now? I expect if he does indeed retire he goes off the rails again before returning.

He needs to go into promoting i think or setup up a school to help young boxers
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 25, 2025, 07:59:01 PM
Any boxer announcing their retirement should be banned from title fights for two years. Now, onto tonight's entertainment.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 25, 2025, 09:48:06 PM
Looks like Turnaround of the Year has been won already.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: FrankyH on February 01, 2025, 11:17:41 PM
I suspect a lot of posters (if not all) who look in this thread may have seen this already. I was going to post it in the Stuff on TV thread, but given the sadness and gravity of the story I think it deserves to go here. Steve Bunce spoke about it on bbc morning news a few weeks ago. I remember Johnny being touted on TV, just before the World Title fight (maybe Wogan ? not sure it aired in 1980 , so memory is hazy) and then getting dripped feed news for days/weeks after the fight about his health.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m00279gr/legends-of-welsh-sport-series-4-johnny-owen-the-matchstick-man
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 01, 2025, 11:25:26 PM
I suspect a lot of posters (if not all) who look in this thread may have seen this already. I was going to post it in the Stuff on TV thread, but given the sadness and gravity of the story I think it deserves to go here. Steve Bunce spoke about it on bbc morning news a few weeks ago. I remember Johnny being touted on TV, just before the World Title fight (maybe Wogan ? not sure it aired in 1980 , so memory is hazy) and then getting dripped feed news for days/weeks after the fight about his health.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m00279gr/legends-of-welsh-sport-series-4-johnny-owen-the-matchstick-man

It was a tragedy, and showed the best and the dark side of boxing. The dignity shown by his family and by Lupe Pintor was incredible. I've also said it before but Hugh McIlvanney's story is the finest bit of sports writing I've ever read.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: dcdavecollett on February 03, 2025, 01:02:56 AM
Agreed.

Hugh Mcllvaney is probably the best sports writer ever; his understanding of boxing and his ability to communicate that understanding are unmatched in my experience.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 03, 2025, 01:46:43 AM
Here it is:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/mar/05/hugh-mcilvanney-johnny-owen-last-fight-vault

"It is his tragedy that he found himself articulate in such a dangerous language."
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Proposition Joe on February 07, 2025, 06:53:53 PM
I know it's been said many a time, but what an utter nob Jake Paul is:

https://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/articles/c4g9v34mgpro

I assume there would be something in the contract that Canelo would have to pull his punches or something along those lines. Or does Paul genuinely think he's a boxer?
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 08, 2025, 08:11:51 PM
I know it's been said many a time, but what an utter nob Jake Paul is:

https://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/articles/c4g9v34mgpro

I assume there would be something in the contract that Canelo would have to pull his punches or something along those lines. Or does Paul genuinely think he's a boxer?

Meanwhile, for a fraction of Jake Paul's earnings.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/articles/ckg0e4vvr08o
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 08, 2025, 09:45:49 PM
And Chisora's on later.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Villa Lew on February 08, 2025, 10:16:27 PM
And Nathan Heaney's lost, a 7th round stoppage.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 08, 2025, 10:48:32 PM
And Nathan Heaney's lost, a 7th round stoppage.

He sold tickets and had one great night.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Gareth on February 08, 2025, 11:40:02 PM
Chisora just goes on and on….all about heart
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Villa Lew on February 09, 2025, 12:04:10 AM
Yeah well done Del Boy, but Wallin was terrible, hardly threw a decent punch.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: tomd2103 on February 09, 2025, 01:15:47 AM
Chisora just goes on and on….all about heart

Has spent the last month telling all and sundry that this would be his last fight, only to then start talking about his next fight immediately after the final bell.  To quote John Lydon, "Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?"
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: aldridgeboy on February 12, 2025, 02:26:25 PM
To be fair to Chisora,  I did hear a few interviews with him pre Wallin, that he wanted to have his 50th Fight, then retire
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 15, 2025, 07:39:45 PM
At least the boxing should be worth watching tonight.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 15, 2025, 10:33:42 PM
Robbery incoming...
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Drummond on February 17, 2025, 05:13:57 PM
Chisora just goes on and on….all about heart

Has spent the last month telling all and sundry that this would be his last fight, only to then start talking about his next fight immediately after the final bell.  To quote John Lydon, "Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?"

I think he was saying it would be his last UK fight with one more after that.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Villa Lew on February 21, 2025, 10:21:53 AM
Pity about Dubois, I was looking forward to that fight, the good news is I don't have fork out £20 for PPV.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Rory on February 21, 2025, 05:17:47 PM
"If he is ill, I hope he gets better soon and I'm looking forward to Saturday and having a great show," Parker said before learning of the replacement.

Parker later told Sky Sports, external: "He did a sensible thing. If you're sick, don't fight.

"There's no point going out there and fighting your heart out and you're not in the right physical shape. Go out there and fight when you're at peak, top shape, top condition, and put on your best performance. Put your best foot forward and the one that everyone will remember."

Parker is such a gent.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on February 21, 2025, 05:36:38 PM
Yeah, he has always seemed like a top bloke. I don't know if it's just me, but I don't need two raging egos pointlessly shit talking each other to be interested in a fight. I guess it must be proven to sell (PPV) tickets considering so many of them seem to do it.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Rory on February 21, 2025, 06:26:45 PM
Yeah, he has always seemed like a top bloke. I don't know if it's just me, but I don't need two raging egos pointlessly shit talking each other to be interested in a fight. I guess it must be proven to sell (PPV) tickets considering so many of them seem to do it.

Particularly as so few are even any good at it. Mostly it's just embarrassing.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on February 21, 2025, 11:49:02 PM
Yeah, he has always seemed like a top bloke. I don't know if it's just me, but I don't need two raging egos pointlessly shit talking each other to be interested in a fight. I guess it must be proven to sell (PPV) tickets considering so many of them seem to do it.

Particularly as so few are even any good at it. Mostly it's just embarrassing.

Yep, definitely.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Rory on February 22, 2025, 12:31:44 AM
Yeah, he has always seemed like a top bloke. I don't know if it's just me, but I don't need two raging egos pointlessly shit talking each other to be interested in a fight. I guess it must be proven to sell (PPV) tickets considering so many of them seem to do it.

Particularly as so few are even any good at it. Mostly it's just embarrassing.

Yep, definitely.

I don't mind if it's in a fighter's nature, though. Someone like Ali or Fury (not to compare the two as fighters or even personalities, just as 'talkers') make me laugh, but it doesn't feel contrived, it's part of their personality.

But they're few and far between.

Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on February 22, 2025, 11:20:23 AM
Finally, we're here, Beterbiev v Bivol. I can't help thinking age will finally catch up with Beterbiev. Whatever happens tonight, I really hope he retires after as it would be tragic to see him continue just for the challenge or the money. He already has his place in history, he has his young family, hopefully he can step back and enjoy his life.

Fascinated to see what Bivol can do differently tonight, he was close to perfection in their first fight. Two amazing fighters who do their talking in the ring. So much respect for both.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: tomd2103 on February 22, 2025, 12:09:40 PM
Chisora just goes on and on….all about heart

Has spent the last month telling all and sundry that this would be his last fight, only to then start talking about his next fight immediately after the final bell.  To quote John Lydon, "Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?"

I think he was saying it would be his last UK fight with one more after that.

And then immediately started talking about fighting in London after the final bell.  I like and admire Derek Chisora , but I think that "last fight" talk might have been a cynical ploy to get interest in, what if we're honest, was a pretty underwhelming top of the bill fight for an arena show. 
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: manic-road on February 22, 2025, 12:47:17 PM
Finally, we're here, Beterbiev v Bivol. I can't help thinking age will finally catch up with Beterbiev. Whatever happens tonight, I really hope he retires after as it would be tragic to see him continue just for the challenge or the money. He already has his place in history, he has his young family, hopefully he can step back and enjoy his life.

Fascinated to see what Bivol can do differently tonight, he was close to perfection in their first fight. Two amazing fighters who do their talking in the ring. So much respect for both.

I fancy Bivol to win this one, two outstanding boxers.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 22, 2025, 10:16:21 PM
I fancy Beterbiev, and you all know what that means.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: manic-road on February 22, 2025, 10:34:29 PM
Bakole didn't last long against Parker, no surprise as a late replacement he looked totally out of shape.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: taylorsworkrate on February 22, 2025, 10:50:47 PM
Josh Padley by the way...

Took a fight on 4 days notice against one of the best pound for pound in the world and never took a backwards step. Incredible effort
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Rory on February 22, 2025, 11:14:25 PM
I fancy Beterbiev, and you all know what that means.

Wasn't the first fight one that you got bang on?
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 22, 2025, 11:20:36 PM
I fancy Beterbiev, and you all know what that means.

Wasn't the first fight one that you got bang on?

I doubt it. I think the last one I called correctly was Charles-Walcott III.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: taylorsworkrate on February 22, 2025, 11:24:29 PM
Power of Berterbiev telling at the moment
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: manic-road on February 22, 2025, 11:49:21 PM
What a good fight, two fantastic boxers.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 22, 2025, 11:52:29 PM
That was a great fight.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Rory on February 23, 2025, 12:18:21 AM
Trilogy then. Great stuff.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on February 23, 2025, 10:39:41 AM
Power of Berterbiev telling at the moment

I thought by his own standards he held back a bit on the power, saving energy to go the full 12 rounds. He worked Bivol's body ruthlessly but the killer punches you come to expect from him just weren't there often enough. That said, what do I know, we're talking about two of the greatest fighters in a generation. Bivol deserved the win last night but he hinted that this time he'll need a real good long rest before a rematch. It would be a pointless exercise, nevermind cruel, putting anybody else other than Berterbiev in the ring with him. They're both so far ahead of the competition.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on February 26, 2025, 01:36:26 AM
Yeah, he has always seemed like a top bloke. I don't know if it's just me, but I don't need two raging egos pointlessly shit talking each other to be interested in a fight. I guess it must be proven to sell (PPV) tickets considering so many of them seem to do it.

Particularly as so few are even any good at it. Mostly it's just embarrassing.

Yep, definitely.

I don't mind if it's in a fighter's nature, though. Someone like Ali or Fury (not to compare the two as fighters or even personalities, just as 'talkers') make me laugh, but it doesn't feel contrived, it's part of their personality.

But they're few and far between.

And here comes Eubank Jnr with an egg to prove us both wrong...
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Villa Lew on February 26, 2025, 08:57:20 AM
Yeah, he has always seemed like a top bloke. I don't know if it's just me, but I don't need two raging egos pointlessly shit talking each other to be interested in a fight. I guess it must be proven to sell (PPV) tickets considering so many of them seem to do it.

Particularly as so few are even any good at it. Mostly it's just embarrassing.

Yep, definitely.

I don't mind if it's in a fighter's nature, though. Someone like Ali or Fury (not to compare the two as fighters or even personalities, just as 'talkers') make me laugh, but it doesn't feel contrived, it's part of their personality.

But they're few and far between.

And here comes Eubank Jnr with an egg to prove us both wrong...

Very poor from Eubank, though it's good to see him come out of his shell.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 01, 2025, 08:48:36 PM
Two cards tonight, neither particularly promising. On a sad note Carson Jones, who beat Brian Rose and lost controversially to Kell Brook, has died aged 38.

Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 01, 2025, 10:39:53 PM
Paddy Donovan v Lewis Crocker. Donovan well on top, two points deducted for butting, gets disqualified for punching after the bell.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: nigel on March 04, 2025, 09:12:45 AM
Big night for women’s boxing on Saturday.
Natasha Jonas v Lauren Price

At 40 I think it would be incredible if Jonas won, but I think Price might have a bit too much
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Villa Lew on March 07, 2025, 11:19:00 PM
Superb from Lauren Price, probably won every round.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Villa Lew on March 13, 2025, 12:43:37 PM
Following yesterday's news that Dubois is in talks to fight Usky for the undisputed heavyweight, today Usky has been ordered by the WBO to begin negotiations with Parker for a mandatory title defence.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 15, 2025, 07:48:43 PM
Nick Ball, who's fighting tonight, is perhaps the best British boxer at the moment.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 15, 2025, 09:39:33 PM
I'm currently watching the worst fight I've seen this century.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Rory on March 15, 2025, 10:03:06 PM
I'm currently watching the worst fight I've seen this century.

Worse than Joshua v Ruiz II?
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 15, 2025, 10:10:17 PM
I'm currently watching the worst fight I've seen this century.

Worse than Joshua v Ruiz II?

Which was Hagler v Hearn by comparison.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Villa Lew on March 15, 2025, 10:10:59 PM
Nothing boring about Jack Turner, that was tremendous.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 15, 2025, 10:16:37 PM
Nothing boring about Jack Turner, that was tremendous.

It was indeed.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 15, 2025, 10:29:16 PM
So far we've had a fight that one judge scored 97-93 and another had 91-98, twelve rounds of running, a stunner of a stoppage and Steve Bunce hardly able to talk.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 15, 2025, 10:44:53 PM
And now one fighter's kicked the other.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Brazilian Villain on March 17, 2025, 01:45:29 PM
IOC recommends boxing for inclusion at 2028 Olympics, which is to be welcomed.
https://www.rte.ie/sport/boxing/2025/0317/1502505-ioc-recommends-boxing-for-inclusion-at-2028-olympics/

In other news, two women from the local parish just won silver medals in the World Boxing Championship.
https://www.rte.ie/sport/boxing/2025/0316/1502387-orourke-sisters-lose-world-boxing-championships-finals/
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 05, 2025, 09:26:56 PM
It looks like another load of big punching tonight.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 05, 2025, 10:08:38 PM
And a nice bit of controversy.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 19, 2025, 08:53:51 PM
Josh Warington's annoying little band of Leeds supporters are being annoying again.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 20, 2025, 11:52:14 AM
Dalton Smith managed to get a point deducted and still win a twelve rounder by fourteen rounds.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 20, 2025, 07:04:13 PM
And tonight looks a cracking bill. Ramsey and Rashford in da house.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Gareth on April 20, 2025, 09:26:37 PM
How did the 1 judge see Eggington winning every round…was massively close when stopped
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 20, 2025, 09:37:42 PM
I had Eggington by three or four but I'm biased. I did read that he'll have a face like Bonnie Blue's growler in the morning.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Gareth on April 20, 2025, 09:51:13 PM
I had Eggington by three or four but I'm biased. I did read that he'll have a face like Bonnie Blue's growler in the morning.

Haha!  When they showed his face at the end of his interview and he went ‘f**k me’ :-)

Now let’s see if Whittaker is a decent fighter or just a bit of a tosser :-)
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 20, 2025, 10:27:08 PM
I had Eggington by three or four but I'm biased. I did read that he'll have a face like Bonnie Blue's growler in the morning.

Haha!  When they showed his face at the end of his interview and he went ‘f**k me’ :-)

Now let’s see if Whittaker is a decent fighter or just a bit of a tosser :-)

Both.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Gareth on April 20, 2025, 10:38:04 PM
Indeed, dismissed Cameron before Cameron joined in…good pounds per punch earnt
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 20, 2025, 10:46:47 PM
Then acted like a classless, arrogant gobshite, backed up by Andy Lee, which didn't surprise me, and Johnny Nelson, which did.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Rory on April 21, 2025, 12:58:34 AM
Then acted like a classless, arrogant gobshite, backed up by Andy Lee, which didn't surprise me, and Johnny Nelson, which did.

I love Johnny, but he does lean into the theatrical these days.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Gareth on April 21, 2025, 09:34:19 AM
Then acted like a classless, arrogant gobshite, backed up by Andy Lee, which didn't surprise me, and Johnny Nelson, which did.

It was nonsense….was interesting interview style tho…’well done did you spit at the other corner’ was beautifully 2 footed but the dumbing down was clown like.  Don’t think he expected as the local lad to get booed :-)
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 24, 2025, 11:35:52 PM
Who's getting worked up for Saturday's megafight?
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Rory on April 24, 2025, 11:45:45 PM
Who's getting worked up for Saturday's megafight?

Not me! Absolute clown show.

(I'll still watch it, mind.)
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on April 25, 2025, 06:07:46 AM
Who's getting worked up for Saturday's megafight?

Not me! Absolute clown show.

(I'll still watch it, mind.)

Nor me. I actually don't think I will watch. Not live, anyway.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Gareth on April 25, 2025, 11:06:36 AM
I’ll watch it if back from Wembley but it is pick an idiot for a winner…from the egg slap to Eubank snrs phony disagreement about weights for the fight everything has been planned to make the big PPV audience.

One of those fights would love to see both lose.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: manic-road on April 26, 2025, 08:42:50 PM
Easy points win for Aaron McKenna over Liam Smith, Smith looked finished after his previous fight surely he won't carry on.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: manic-road on April 26, 2025, 09:39:40 PM
The Yarde Arthur fight isn't great, much too close boxing against the ropes all fight.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: manic-road on April 26, 2025, 11:10:45 PM
What a great fight, all judges gave Eubank the victory on points. That really was something special.

All three judges gave it 116-112.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 26, 2025, 11:12:30 PM
At least that's one decent bit of sport today.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Villa Lew on April 26, 2025, 11:15:43 PM
That was a ridiculous verdict, I found it hard to split them, but a great fight.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: lovejoy on April 26, 2025, 11:16:41 PM
Think that scoring is harsh on Benn.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: manic-road on April 26, 2025, 11:21:00 PM
I thought Eubank won but not by four rounds, great fight though.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Rory on April 26, 2025, 11:56:06 PM
FFS, that's typical. I've been too down after the Villa to bother watching and I miss what sounds like a really good fight.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on April 27, 2025, 12:10:17 AM
And I actually watched it when I wasn't going to! Really enjoyable bellend-off. They must really hate each other with the amount of effort they put in, neither let up. Not sure I agree with 3 judges all having it 116-112. It felt a little closer than that.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Rory on April 27, 2025, 12:28:13 AM
And I actually watched it when I wasn't going to! Really enjoyable bellend-off. They must really hate each other with the amount of effort they put in, neither let up. Not sure I agree with 3 judges all having it 116-112. It felt a little closer than that.

You liar!

I was watching Taxi Driver for about the 100th time, thinking 'at least edgy isn't watching the fight either'.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: cdbearsfan on April 27, 2025, 12:39:00 AM
Fuck it, I'm watching Taxi Driver.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Rory on April 27, 2025, 12:53:18 AM
Fuck it, I'm watching Taxi Driver.

Gets better every time, mate.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: cdbearsfan on April 27, 2025, 01:05:04 AM
It suits my nihilistic mood.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: cdbearsfan on April 27, 2025, 01:07:06 AM
Fucking jazz, though. There's no need for it. It's the one thing Risso and I were in complete agreement about.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on April 27, 2025, 01:29:43 AM
Sorry, Rory. Plus, I've never seen Taxi Driver!
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Rory on April 27, 2025, 01:48:12 AM
Fucking jazz, though. There's no need for it. It's the one thing Risso and I were in complete agreement about.

Sad jazz I can handle, for a limited time - not the 27 minutes that an average jazz track lasts (or seems to last).
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Rory on April 27, 2025, 01:48:58 AM
Sorry, Rory. Plus, I've never seen Taxi Driver!

Right, I've had enough of this prick.

Mods? Ban?
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: cdbearsfan on April 27, 2025, 01:52:15 AM
I've only just realised I've been posting in the boxing thread. I wondered where my post had gone.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Rory on April 27, 2025, 01:57:51 AM
I've only just realised I've been posting in the boxing thread. I wondered where my post had gone.

Yeah, jazz is the other direction!
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Rory on April 27, 2025, 02:48:06 AM
Just watched the full fight and I had it Eubank Jr by three.

Reminded me of Brook v Golovkin. A valiant effort but the natural weight difference was key. Difference being that Eubank Jr is no GGG, and couldn't close it out.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: cdbearsfan on April 27, 2025, 03:04:22 AM
I'm uncomfortable with boxers losing loads of weight before a fight. That's how they end up dead.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Villa Lew on April 28, 2025, 09:07:42 AM
Dubois v Usky 19 July thankfully at Wembley Stadium and not Saudi.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Drummond on April 28, 2025, 01:24:03 PM
I'm uncomfortable with boxers losing loads of weight before a fight. That's how they end up dead.

Eubank being in hospital for 36 hours afterwards would back that up.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Brazilian Villain on April 28, 2025, 02:23:46 PM
Easy points win for Aaron McKenna over Liam Smith, Smith looked finished after his previous fight surely he won't carry on.

Liam Smith's camp getting a lot of praise over here for their classy conduct post-bout. By all accounts, McKenna is one the 'good guys'. Hopefully he has a bright future.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Villa Lew on May 09, 2025, 10:43:01 AM
Luke Campbell has won the election to become Mayor of Hull and East Yorkshire, that's quite a career change.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on May 10, 2025, 08:48:28 PM
Tonight will hopefully round off a good day's sport.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on May 10, 2025, 10:24:50 PM
An hour ago Troy Jones was Proper Brummie. Then he lost.
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Post by: Gareth on May 10, 2025, 10:58:24 PM
Good fight that - Cacace excellent, quality corner work
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Post by: dave.woodhall on May 10, 2025, 11:06:07 PM
Good fight that - Cacace excellent, quality corner work

Good all round - Wood was brave, Cacace was better, the standing count was good and the retirement the right decision.
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Post by: Gareth on May 10, 2025, 11:06:58 PM
Good fight that - Cacace excellent, quality corner work

Good all round - Wood was brave, Cacace was better, the standing count was good and the retirement the right decision.

Absolutely
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 17, 2025, 09:34:34 PM
What an exhibition of the sweet science we have in store.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on May 23, 2025, 10:18:04 PM
It's been a decent card tonight.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on May 24, 2025, 09:11:35 PM
Moses Itauma took longer than I thought he would.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on June 04, 2025, 11:29:59 PM
Oliver McCall drew a six-rounder last night. He's sixty.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on June 07, 2025, 08:36:51 PM
Fabio Wardlley headlines tonight.
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Post by: Gareth on June 07, 2025, 11:17:45 PM
Fabio Wardlley headlines tonight.

He certainly did they didn’t he Dave
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 07, 2025, 11:30:01 PM
It was what makes boxing great - one second Huni's thinking he's only seven and a bit minutes away from a world title fight, the next it's "Who turned the lights out?"
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Gareth on June 07, 2025, 11:49:56 PM
It was what makes boxing great - one second Huni's thinking he's only seven and a bit minutes away from a world title fight, the next it's "Who turned the lights out?"
the beauty of particularly heavyweights…one punch and good night
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Post by: dave.woodhall on June 07, 2025, 11:51:04 PM
Wardley will have to improve on that if he's going to win a world title, though.
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Post by: Villa Lew on June 08, 2025, 10:26:22 AM
Was unable to watch Wordley, as I haven't got DAZN, but I did watch Callum Simpson who, after being knocked down twice, came back very impressively to beat Ivan Zucco, with the ref stopping the fight in the 10th round, after 3 knockdowns.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on June 21, 2025, 08:58:40 PM
Two good fights and hopefully two local wins coming up.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on June 22, 2025, 12:36:21 AM
One good fight, one local win and a war that Gal Yafai lost.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on June 28, 2025, 09:57:37 PM
Shakan Pitters looks like he'll lose tonight. That's another Brummie defeat.
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Post by: PaulWinch again on July 07, 2025, 12:07:41 PM
Hatton announcing a comeback is very sad.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Villa Lew on July 19, 2025, 09:03:24 PM
Not with a great deal of confidence I'm going for a Dubois win by way of a knockout.
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Post by: Villa Lew on July 19, 2025, 10:41:47 PM
Absolutely brilliant Usky.
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Post by: Rory on July 19, 2025, 10:54:10 PM
Dear lord, he's good.
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Post by: Ian. on July 19, 2025, 11:02:51 PM
I haven’t watched boxing for years, but my daughter’s boyfriend is round and he’s a huge fan and wanted to watch it with us. That was bloody impressive. So often I’ve watched heavyweights fight and it bores me with all the pausing, grappling and that, but that was quick and relentless. He gave the poor lad a right hiding!
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Post by: ozzjim on July 19, 2025, 11:12:00 PM
I genuinely thought with age, and how good Dubois has been lately he might have a chance of catching him tonight. I'm clearly an idiot. Usyk is a genuine great, short of one punch in one of the fights with AJ and 2-3 rounds where Bellew really had a go, I don't think I've ever watched him and thought the other guy stood a chance. About 30 seconds in you could see Dubois just doesn't have the brainpower to out think him, and by the 5th was about 5 seconds behind Usyk in his thought to actions. The final punch was a lovely shot.
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Post by: Rory on July 19, 2025, 11:16:13 PM
Seems like a really nice, good-humoured, humble bloke as well.
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Post by: PaulTheVillan on July 20, 2025, 08:12:03 AM
Usyk has to be considered the best of all time now, surely?

I rate Dubois but he was out of his depth last night. It was Man v Boy
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 20, 2025, 09:17:02 AM
Usyk has to be considered the best of all time now, surely?

I rate Dubois but he was out of his depth last night. It was Man v Boy

He's good, but he's not all-time great good. There's been a lot of fighters who would have had too much for him.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: manic-road on July 20, 2025, 09:18:30 AM
Usyk is such a clever boxer, rare to see a heavyweight boxer with so much movement which led to Dubois hardly laying a glove on him. Can't see any current heavyweight troubling him at the moment, he's a classy guy and I would like to see him retire unbeaten.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Proposition Joe on July 20, 2025, 01:08:55 PM
Usyk has to be considered the best of all time now, surely?

I rate Dubois but he was out of his depth last night. It was Man v Boy

He's good, but he's not all-time great good. There's been a lot of fighters who would have had too much for him.

And even in their first fight, Fury had him beat, but then started to mess around, got tagged and spent the rest of the fight in survival mode. If he'd stayed sharp he would have won.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: tomd2103 on July 20, 2025, 01:27:03 PM
Usyk is such a clever boxer, rare to see a heavyweight boxer with so much movement which led to Dubois hardly laying a glove on him. Can't see any current heavyweight troubling him at the moment, he's a classy guy and I would like to see him retire unbeaten.

He reminds me a bit of a Mayweather in that he is able to adapt so comfortably to what he is facing.  He's beaten everyone out there now and beaten them twice in most cases.

One thing that annoyed me last night was the publicity given to that absolute clown Jake Paul during the coverage.  Goodness knows why he was allowed to go into the ring to confront Usyk after the fight, when he's got absolutely no intention of fighting him and will just line up another ex-fighter in his 50's next. 
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Rory on July 20, 2025, 07:58:35 PM
Usyk is such a clever boxer, rare to see a heavyweight boxer with so much movement which led to Dubois hardly laying a glove on him. Can't see any current heavyweight troubling him at the moment, he's a classy guy and I would like to see him retire unbeaten.

He reminds me a bit of a Mayweather in that he is able to adapt so comfortably to what he is facing.  He's beaten everyone out there now and beaten them twice in most cases.

One thing that annoyed me last night was the publicity given to that absolute clown Jake Paul during the coverage.  Goodness knows why he was allowed to go into the ring to confront Usyk after the fight, when he's got absolutely no intention of fighting him and will just line up another ex-fighter in his 50's next.

Yeah his ring intelligence is off the scale.

Agreed on Paul, the complete twat. I wish he'd fuck off and stop making the sport even more of a circus.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on July 20, 2025, 08:43:08 PM
The trouble with Paul's circus is that boxing keeps giving him so many clowns.
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Post by: Rory on July 20, 2025, 09:10:49 PM
True so. I guess the money is hard to turn down.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Rory on July 20, 2025, 11:57:53 PM
Not enjoying a couple of the comments I'm hearing (one from Froch) about how Dubois 'chose' to go down the first time, and 'quit' the second.

There was similar after the first fight.

Just because something doesn't look like a clip from Rocky, doesn't mean it isn't a hard shot, and just because a fighter isn't out cold, motionless, doesn't mean it's not a clean knockout.

I haven't seen many people going on about how Ali's shot vs Foreman didn't 'look' like a knockout punch, or complaining that Foreman was still moving on the canvas so he must've quit.

It's disrespectful to both men.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Tayls_7 on July 21, 2025, 08:58:09 AM
There's always been huge controversy over the Clay-Liston fight.

I haven't read Froch's comment but there were fewer fighters more durable than he.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: LeeB on July 21, 2025, 01:34:07 PM
There's always been huge controversy over the Clay-Liston fight.

I haven't read Froch's comment but there were fewer fighters more durable than he.

Was never a fan of Froch, but his knockout of Groves was probably the best knockout punch I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Rory on July 21, 2025, 03:27:33 PM
There's always been huge controversy over the Clay-Liston fight.

I haven't read Froch's comment but there were fewer fighters more durable than he.

That one did look iffy though, from Liston's perspective.

Dubois has had to work to re-establish himself after two tough losses before, and I just don't think it's fair to suggest he'd now go down easily in a unification fight.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Rory on July 21, 2025, 03:28:50 PM
There's always been huge controversy over the Clay-Liston fight.

I haven't read Froch's comment but there were fewer fighters more durable than he.

Was never a fan of Froch, but his knockout of Groves was probably the best knockout punch I've ever seen.

Yeah, one made for slow-mo, that.
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Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 21, 2025, 10:26:46 PM
Absolutely brilliant Usyk.

No wonder he won.

(https://image.email.stoneisland.com/lib/fe231171706404747c1378/m/1/33d6ea6b-46f1-4942-98b5-137d1af7594b.jpg)
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Post by: Rory on July 21, 2025, 10:37:52 PM
Absolutely brilliant Usyk.

No wonder he won.

(https://image.email.stoneisland.com/lib/fe231171706404747c1378/m/1/33d6ea6b-46f1-4942-98b5-137d1af7594b.jpg)

Haha someone sent me a link to a 'football lads' FB page post about that earlier today. Something about 'definite hard man attire'.

*rolls eyes*
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 21, 2025, 10:42:04 PM
The way he punched Dubois out was pwopa fackin nawty.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Rory on July 21, 2025, 10:46:22 PM
The way he punched Dubois out was pwopa fackin nawty.

Sparked him out, lamped him, word's all over the fackin' manor!
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 26, 2025, 08:22:41 PM
Tonight's got off to a good start and it should be a decent card.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Villa Lew on August 06, 2025, 09:57:18 PM
Eubank v Benn rematch set for 15 November, that's as long as Benn hasn't decided to join the SAS in the meantime!
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Rory on August 06, 2025, 11:47:30 PM
Unless it's at a lower weight I can't much see the point.
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Post by: Drummond on August 07, 2025, 07:55:37 AM
££££££
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Post by: Rory on August 07, 2025, 10:21:21 PM
££££££

Of course, but I certainly won't be paying for it after the first fight.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on August 16, 2025, 09:06:30 PM
Tonight's headliner should be a bit explosive.
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Post by: Gareth on August 16, 2025, 10:37:00 PM
Double quick

Body snatched
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Post by: dave.woodhall on August 16, 2025, 11:03:16 PM
Very impressive. Nick Ball's fight was good as well.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Villa Lew on August 16, 2025, 11:04:22 PM
Tremendous from Itauma, he's only 20 years of age, a baby and he has just destroyed Dillian Whyte, he really is the big deal. AJ next?
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 16, 2025, 11:21:54 PM
Tremendous from Itauma, he's only 20 years of age, a baby and he has just destroyed Dillian Whyte, he really is the big deal. AJ next?

If you were Joshua, would you fight him?
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Villa Lew on August 16, 2025, 11:50:06 PM
Tremendous from Itauma, he's only 20 years of age, a baby and he has just destroyed Dillian Whyte, he really is the big deal. AJ next?

If you were Joshua, would you fight him?

Probably not, but I would love to see it.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Proposition Joe on August 17, 2025, 12:01:35 AM
If i got frozen in ice and thawed out in 30 years' time, i wouldn't be surprised if Dillian Whyte and Derek Chisora were still plying their trade fighting promising British heavyweights.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 17, 2025, 12:08:24 AM
If i got frozen in ice and thawed out in 30 years' time, i wouldn't be surprised if Dillian Whyte and Derek Chisora were still plying their trade fighting promising British heavyweights.

Danny Williams still is.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Rory on August 17, 2025, 01:16:16 AM
Whyte looked scared to me.

Felt like a pre-Rumble George Foreman fight. Itauma looked excellent, take nothing away from him, but part of that was because he was allowed to be by an opponent who stood off him and allowed him to control the range throughout.

Itauma does look to have all the ingredients to be the dominant heavyweight of the next 10-15 years. Knew of his reputation but I hadn't seen him before tonight, I'll be honest, but his footwork and balance in particular appear to be exceptional for a big man.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 20, 2025, 10:26:51 PM
Jake Paul, who last weighed in at 14st 3lbs, is to fight Gervonta Davis (9st 7lbs). Just when you think boxing can't sink any lower.
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Post by: PaulWinch again on August 20, 2025, 10:30:21 PM
Yes just saw that.
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Post by: Rory on August 20, 2025, 11:07:16 PM
At what weight?
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Post by: ozzjim on August 20, 2025, 11:34:18 PM
Jake Paul, who last weighed in at 14st 3lbs, is to fight Gervonta Davis (9st 7lbs). Just when you think boxing can't sink any lower.

It's utterly insane and strikes me as almost one of those rubberneck bouts to drum up some casual oo little va large "spectators". I'd assume Davis won't shred any weight leading up to the fight and won't need to that rehydrate etc so will probably come in around a stone or so heavier than 9st 7. If he does what I think he will, which is out box and really show Paul up, it could finally put an end to that charade. If it doesn't, Joshua will just do what he did to Nganou to him in April next year for a huge amount of money.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Rory on August 20, 2025, 11:47:05 PM
Jake Paul, who last weighed in at 14st 3lbs, is to fight Gervonta Davis (9st 7lbs). Just when you think boxing can't sink any lower.

It's utterly insane and strikes me as almost one of those rubberneck bouts to drum up some casual oo little va large "spectators". I'd assume Davis won't shred any weight leading up to the fight and won't need to that rehydrate etc so will probably come in around a stone or so heavier than 9st 7. If he does what I think he will, which is out box and really show Paul up, it could finally put an end to that charade. If it doesn't, Joshua will just do what he did to Nganou to him in April next year for a huge amount of money.

Hmm. I hoped Mayweather schooling McGregor would be the end of it.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 23, 2025, 08:18:29 PM
Cheer yourself up by watching the boxing now.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Rory on August 23, 2025, 11:17:37 PM
Cheer yourself up by watching the boxing now.

Anything decent?
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 23, 2025, 11:21:42 PM
Cheer yourself up by watching the boxing now.

Anything decent?

Two good uns and a Fight of the Year contender headlining.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Rory on August 23, 2025, 11:47:14 PM
Cheer yourself up by watching the boxing now.

Anything decent?

Two good uns and a Fight of the Year contender headlining.

Might see if I can find some highlights. Where was it?
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 23, 2025, 11:49:02 PM
DAZN.
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Post by: Rory on August 23, 2025, 11:52:53 PM
DAZN.

Ah cool, I'll find something then. Need it to take my mind off the Villa. Thanks Dave.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on August 30, 2025, 07:14:06 PM
Someone named Joey Essex is making his debut tonight.
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Post by: Rory on August 30, 2025, 07:28:04 PM
Someone named Joey Essex is making his debut tonight.

I saw that. Absurd.
Title: Re: Boxing 2025
Post by: Skipper_The_Eyechild on August 31, 2025, 01:04:59 AM
A TOWIE star vs a Portuguese influencer, just bask on these glorious uplands.
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