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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Dave on November 09, 2024, 06:46:27 PM
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Pretty attacking side.
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Not massively surprised that Ginny has been dropped.
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Cmon the villa!
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Big call to drop mcginn.
Ollie has to improve those he has been pants for weeks. Harsh on duran
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Bailey starts? I mean, really? Away? At Liverpool?
Jeez!
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Not sure whether Mings is dropped because of what happened or whether it's part of a planned phased return.
Bailey again. He really owes us a big performance tonight.
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Free hit this for me, not expecting a positive result but, c’mon the Villa!
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Bailey starts? I mean, really? Away? At Liverpool?
Jeez!
The only one with decent pace, but yeah, he has been poor recently.
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I see the Japanese fish is playing for them.
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Bailey again, sweet baby jesus !
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I’m calling it now.
The pre match build up on TNT will be 95% Liverpool, with our bit being the pre match interview with unai.
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Time to think about a new captain as John is not going to be an auto pick from now on.
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I thought Konate broke his arm in two last week.
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Not massively surprised that Ginny has been dropped.
Me neither. Decent line-up, surprise me Villa.
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No Nunez or Jota is some good news at least . That CB pairing of Torres / Carlos really worries me
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I thought Konate broke his arm in two last week.
yes that a Van Persie type near death experience but miraculously he also came through it.
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I think these days he’s playing Bailey for balance and to draw two defenders away from the rest.
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I see the Japanese fish is playing for them.
Koi Havertz?
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No Nunez or Jota is some good news at least . That CB pairing of Torres / Carlos really worries me
Just check out their number 9, could resemble Darwin.
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I’d have gone Kamara- Onana- McGinn
Play a bit more direct because of the press with Duran up front because Watkins struggles to control the ball
I’m hoping this post won’t age well
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No Nunez or Jota is some good news at least . That CB pairing of Torres / Carlos really worries me
Just check out their number 9, could resemble Darwin.
Oh yeah, got help Torres , he will be terrorised by him
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No Nunez or Jota is some good news at least . That CB pairing of Torres / Carlos really worries me
Just check out their number 9, could resemble Darwin.
Alfred Russel Wallace?
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Bailey maybe the only one with pace but, I’ve yet to see it this season. Seems to just pass the ball 5 yards backwards nearly all the time.
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Not sure whether Mings is dropped because of what happened or whether it's part of a planned phased return.
I imagine that it's because any match we play against a "better team" is going to be Konsa - Carlos - Torres, given it's clearly the thing that works best in those situations.
Maybe there's a place for Mings in that in future, but it's difficult to see how.
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Like that line up.
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Please perform well Villa.
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Also possibly Mings and Kamara can’t play two games a week yet.
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Mings should be playing , best CB at the club .
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Liverpool seem slow starters.
We can get at them early with that lineup.
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Bailey maybe the only one with pace but, I’ve yet to see it this season. Seems to just pass the ball 5 yards backwards nearly all the time.
Yes, surely one of the basic tasks of a winger is to attack their defender on the outside, something that Bailey has steadfastly refused to do this season.
Balance is fine but not when it is utterly ineffective, surely?
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Tbf, I really don't think it matters much which team Unai puts out today. I just hope it's not another embarrassing scoreline.
We just need to get it out of the way and work on a few things over the break.
3-0 to them.
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No Nunez or Jota is some good news at least . That CB pairing of Torres / Carlos really worries me
Just check out their number 9, could resemble Darwin.
Alfred Russel Wallace?
Maybe ARW would have naturally selected Nunez unlike TimVilla.
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Time to think about a new captain as John is not going to be an auto pick from now on.
Tielemans, unless Mings starts starting.
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Gauchi lost his spot on the bench unsurprisingly
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Ollie nice words about duran
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Surprised no Kamara, the problem of our porous midfield with no protection for our defence.
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Adam richman! Legend!
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Time to think about a new captain as John is not going to be an auto pick from now on.
Tielemans, unless Mings starts starting.
Well it’ll be Emi won’t it.
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I hope we have at least some attacking presence in the game, not just one way traffic hoping for a draw.
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I'm sad to say Mcginn can have no complaints and Watkins can feel very lucky as he has equally stunk the place out.
Villa have surprised us recently by going from great to Blues, time to reverse it and for SUE to ram uncle festers words down his throat.
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Adam richman! Legend!
What's he done?
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I don't have TNT, if anyone has a trickle, would be appreciated.
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Adam richman! Legend!
What's he done?
Man vs food. Top show
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I hope this is like the game last season where arsenal had to win to pull through didnt and lost to us. I hope same result tonight againat Liverpool
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If JJ can get on the ball and drive us forward, I think we can get something.
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Adam richman! Legend!
What's he done?
Man vs food. Top show
This I know.How is he on the match thread is my question
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No Nunez or Jota is some good news at least . That CB pairing of Torres / Carlos really worries me
Yes and Konsa at right back, when will Unai learn, that doesn't work for us?
*opens popcorn, pours glass of wine, sits back*
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Bailey again. God love him, he's been terrible all season.
Funny, but he's the opposite of Watkins - he seems to thrive when there's a bit more competition.
Anyway, we need to sign more tricky wingers. A LOT more.
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Man City lost their 4th game in a row too.
I’m not complaining. They’re obviously having the same turbulence that we are!
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Christ, there are some gigantic fannies on this thread tonight. Man the fuck up, FFS.
I won't be watching, just in case
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Horrible prospect of the filthy reds being 5 points clear at this stage. Yuk. Please win Villa.
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I feel sick.
Expecting a thrashing, but apparently, Unai has never lost 4 games in a row. Praying this won't change.
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Dreading this - which is a new feeling under Unai.
I need to give my head a wobble.
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I'm sad to say Mcginn can have no complaints and Watkins can feel very lucky as he has equally stunk the place out.
Villa have surprised us recently by going from great to Blues, time to reverse it and for SUE to ram uncle festers words down his throat.
Seems like McGinn getting dropped has been coming for a while. But at the expense of Bailey who hasn't kicked a ball for us this season, that's a strange one. Big show of faith also in likes of Torres and Watkins who are both very fortunate to be starting. Less said about the RB/RCB combo the better. Think Emery should have got Kamara into the team tonight at the expense of Bailey or Rogers with Tielemans further forward. We look wide open for Liverpool to exploit in all honesty. Hopefully we will be pleasantly surprised. It's been a tough week so we need a performance tonight.
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McManaman - It's going to be the third home victory in a week.....Come on Villa let's ram those words down his throat.
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Just checking is it ok to say I'd settle for a 1-1 draw.
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Big call dropping McGinn. Cmon Leon.
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Expecting a thrashing, but apparently, Unai has never lost 4 games in a row. Praying this won't change.
Neither had Pep.
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Bloody hell, Bailey again. He must have photos of Unai hanging out of the back of somebody he shouldn't.
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Adam richman! Legend!
What's he done?
Man vs food. Top show
This I know.How is he on the match thread is my question
Because he was being interviewed at the game
He is doing some tv show about food at football clubs. We are fucked then as the food at villa park sucks
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You'd do well to complete a Man vs Food challenge at Villa Park. You'd have to start queuing at 6.30am to get 10 pies at once.
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Adam richman! Legend!
What's he done?
Man vs food. Top show
This I know.How is he on the match thread is my question
Because he was being interviewed at the game
He is doing some tv show about food at football clubs. We are fucked then as the food at villa park sucks
But food won in man Vs food, because he had to give up those meals for the sake of his health.
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Do they ACTUALLY delay things so they have that fucking sing a long ?
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Mistaken post
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Oh fuck, the weakest ref in the game
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Do they ACTUALLY delay things so they have that fucking sing a long ?
Just saying I don't know what's worse:Ynwa or Kro
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Adam richman! Legend!
What's he done?
Man vs food. Top show
This I know.How is he on the match thread is my question
Because he was being interviewed at the game
He is doing some tv show about food at football clubs. We are fucked then as the food at villa park sucks
But food won in man Vs food, because he had to give up those meals for the sake of his health.
It appears not as he is looking a bit big again 😂 they going another round
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Fuck are those tourists a whiny bunch
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hopefully that whte kit is more madrid tonight then wednesdays Leeds Utd
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Adam richman! Legend!
What's he done?
Man vs food. Top show
This I know.How is he on the match thread is my question
Because he was being interviewed at the game
He is doing some tv show about food at football clubs. We are fucked then as the food at villa park sucks
But food won in man Vs food, because he had to give up those meals for the sake of his health.
It appears not as he is looking a bit big again 😂 they going another round
What an incredible guy he is.
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VIP not working - any suggestions?
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Can’t be so casual in midfield or they’ll counter us.
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Come on Morgan get a grip mate
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Just one question why is the order of the teams the wrong way round?
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Need to keep the ball and slow down play
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Poor pass there ans now we concede a corner
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So fucking sloppy.
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It’s the little things.
Crap first touch. Poor control. Misplaced simple short pass.
These are what are going to do for us.
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It’s the little things.
Crap first touch. Poor control. Misplaced simple short pass.
These are what are going to do for us.
Yep and also the things Unai would have been working on
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Can morgon retain the ball please
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That’s better Leon a bit of intensity gives them a problem.
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Jacob man
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Too many getting picked regardless of form.
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Oh fantastic tackle Onana, brilliant.
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That is a great block to be fair. Little to slow from JJ, but still. Shows they can be run at.
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Think JJ delayed a little there . Hit it quicker
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konsa pass it at least
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Ffs konsa pass the ball
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Fucking hell Konsa.
Why run the length of the pitch and then not pass the fucking ball ?
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Good play by youri!
Bailey should have done better
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Much better, we’re getting at them.
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better Villa . watkins was alone in the box JJ started well
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Fucking hell Konsa.
Why run the length of the pitch and then not pass the fucking ball ?
He wanted to be a intergalactic hero.
Should have passed that way before
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Nice move then. JJ and Tielemans doing well.
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Fuck TNT.
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Much better, we’re getting at them.
It amazes me why we never played like this vs brugges
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Commentator doing my head in, so biased
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JJ is on it tonight
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Commentator doing my head in, so biased
There'll be a brick through the screen in a minute!
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JJ is on it tonight
He is
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Konsa is the problem for us at the moment. Keeps gifting them the ball.
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Bollocks.
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Fucking shambles
From our corner
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Crap
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You fucking idiots
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Can't help but laugh.
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what a shit corner
those crappy near post ones
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Checked score. Villa concede. Fuck
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Not sure how they had so many more players than us. Mad defending. Bailey would have been off if they hadn't scored.
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Fucking shit. Cant believe bailey got beatn for pace. The guy was shite
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Why was Bailey the last man?
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Fucking hell - in a way we’re lucky he scores or it’s a straight red.
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Shambles , just give them a goal why don’t you.
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Good job they scored or Bailey would be off! And why was he last man ffs
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We'd been playing alright last few minutes, too.
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Checked score. Villa concede. Fuck
That was exactly what I’ve done. Bollocks.
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I think bailey lucky that nit a red
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Absolute fucking wank. Dismal stuff, we're going to get battered.
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What the hell happened there? Where was our team, let alone defence?
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That was shambolic.
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We love conceding a terrible fucking goal.
Have to stay in the game here.
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Watkins is playing like a fucking twat tonight.
Half arsed again
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ashley young is back
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Why was Bailey the last man?
Suicide tactics it makes zero sense at all. Wtf unai
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The guy who’s been unable to hit a barn door suddenly can hit a barn door.
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ashley young is back
Ashley Young at his best is exactly what we need right now.
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One assumes they think he has the pace and is crap for our corners.
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got to get it in the box quicker . watkins lost it there , made it harder for himself , just smash it in .
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He’s given a foul against Ollie for that?!
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Even Jim Beglin says that was a penalty.
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Coo[n]t gives a fee kick to Liverpool when the commentators thought it was a pen to us. Gonna be one of those days
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How has ollie doved there you fucking stupid ref
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No way a pen
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Why was Bailey the last man?
Suicide tactics it makes zero sense at all. Wtf unai
Well, he’s probably not winning a corner and in that exact scenario he’s probably the only guy I’d picked to beat salah in a foot race.
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The good thing is that Rogers is doing well in playing himself out of any chance of an England call up.
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How was that not a penalty. He took watkins out
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One assumes they think he has the pace and is crap for our corners.
It's because he was on the edge of the box for our corner and he bust a gut to get back.
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It’s another terrible goal to concede. Like I say we’re lucky in a way.
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Fair play to TNT, calling out The Villa as the baddies from the start.
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ashley young is back
Ashley Young at his best is exactly what we need right now.
Oh I wish
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Why didn’t VAR get involved?
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Ffs Watkins
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Keep going Ollie
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does he practice shooting
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Watkins, you are fucking shit.
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Watkins pulls an easy one wide. Gonna be one of those days...
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Another shite effort by ollie
Jesus ollies costing us points galore this season with these fucking missss
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FFS Ollie come on man.
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If Salah had gone down under a similar challenge to the one on Ollie, you can absolutely bet your house they would get a pen.
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We have started very well, Ramsey in particular causing problems. But being left with just Bailey and Digne defending a corner is woeful organisation
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Why didn’t VAR get involved?
It's Anfield.
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This hasn’t been the same since PWS has stopped leading the threads.
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We’re not playing that badly we’ve just lost our clinical edge. Konsa has been very poor
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This hasn’t been the same since PWS has stopped leading the threads.
Haha! I was thinking the same earlier.
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Why is the commentator banging on about the Bailey challenge and calling it a foul.
It wasn’t a fucking foul.
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Why is Bogarde on the bench instead of Ned?!
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Ill tell you something if that was diaby instead of bailey for that liverpool goal. They never scored. No one beat diaby when we did that
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Why is Bogarde on the bench instead of Ned?!
I assume because he had play cb and rb
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Why is Bogarde on the bench instead of Ned?!
Can cover two or three positions rather than just one, I guess.
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Ffs Rogers wake up, second to everything so far
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Morgan is struggling a bit.
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Come on Morgan we need better!
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Ill tell you something if that was diaby instead of bailey for that liverpool goal. They never scored. No one beat diaby when we did that
Diaby has turned into the messiah since his transfer
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whinging lot up here
calm down calm down
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Not exactly playing like a top 4 side recently. Need a kick up the arse
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Think it was a massive mistake not starting kamara for this one
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Rogers (and I love him) is atrocious tonight
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bailey is a little better tonight
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Well, it was better than our last corner.
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TF Nunez missed just.
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Not exactly playing like a top 4 side recently. Need a kick up the arse
More like a top 8 side!
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Fucking wankers.
Poxy fucking corner again and caught again.
Why can’t we take a proper fucking corner
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Ill tell you something if that was diaby instead of bailey for that liverpool goal. They never scored. No one beat diaby when we did that
Diaby has turned into the messiah since his transfer
However he was our man to stop breakaways and he did it very well.
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whats with these fucking awful corners
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Fuck me.....Jesus wants his P45 first thing in the morning. Fucking shitting christ.
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Martinez needs to play more of a sweeper role for their breaks
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everytime they hit us on the break with awful corners
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Fucking hell, are these corners we're doing designed to let the opposition score?
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Caught so easy again, wtf is going on.
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So fucking lucky we nearly did it again - what the fuck are we doing at corners.
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A corner for Villa is a chance for Scouse.
Fairly obvious they have worked this out.
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The same fucking mistake again wtf ??
That should be 2 and game over. Our cornera have been pathetic
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Who’s Jesus?
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It feels like we’ve got our Villa back. Timid, unsure, hesitant, slack.
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other than watkins header , our corners have been shite for mths
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Nearly two goals for the 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' from Villa corners!!
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It’s the return of the cornalty.
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WTF is it with these near post corners?
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Stop these fucking short corners ffs. They have been shit for four games now.
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Who’s Jesus?
Son of god. Quite famous
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Two of the most dismal corners you will ever see. First one leads to a goal, second one should have. This is sub-Steve Bruce stuff, it's starting to look like we can't have nice things.
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Why is P@@p changed to the worse Mighty..etc?
It’s not derogatory.
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It’s the return of the cornalty.
and not even their fucking corners!
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Stop these fucking short corners ffs. They have been shit for four games now.
Its so frustrating
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We are on the edge. If we don't score soon it will be curtains. Giving chances away on the transition...
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The annoying thing is we get a bit of momentum get a corner and then whoosh we are back to square one
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Emery Out.
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Morgan struggling out there tonight
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This hasn’t been the same since PWS has stopped leading the threads.
The issue is that BE is no longer posting. Thus the footy Gods have have stopped gives us Scorchios to annoy him.
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So pooe from digne. Trying to help liverpool score a second
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No way that’s a yellow
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Rogers so bad so far
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Morgan offered a new contract you say?
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Rogers so bad so far
He's been off it for a while now.
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Fuck.
We have a corner
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Oh fuck, a Villa corner.
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Better from Rogers
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Corners aside we’re not playing badly.
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we have done ok other than the corners
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Better
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That was better. All the chances coming from our corners.
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Shit. Another corner.
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For both them and us. That’s unique surely?
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Should have scored
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there you go
proper corner
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FFS how have we not scored there?
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what the fuck should be 1 1
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For both them and us. That’s unique surely?
It's like the corner version of the Chris Nicholl vs Leicester game.
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Tell you what, var should be looking at that hold back on Ollie
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it's starting to look like we can't have nice things.
Or, we do actually have some nice things, but a sense of entitlement means we're crying because we don't have the absolute best things.
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Should have scored.
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Watkins fouled there.Should have been a pen
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So much better!!!
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poor agaain rogers
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Tell you what, var should be looking at that hold back on Ollie
your’re having a laugh, never going to happen.
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If we were in better form I'd say there's a goal in here for us. But we seem to be determined to fuck up the easiest chances
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it's starting to look like we can't have nice things.
Or, we do actually have some nice things, but a sense of entitlement means we're crying because we don't have the absolute best things.
I think the very last thing Villa fans have is a sense of entitlement
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Better team but not taking chances.
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What a absolute shit pass that was
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Roger’s need to come off he’s really struggling
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Rogers really needs to sharpen up
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9 shots to their 5 so far.
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Morgan is having a bit of a stinker and his body language isn’t much of a poker face.
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Mind you they always start off slow.
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Roger’s need to come off he’s really struggling
He can take Watkins with him.
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If they were sporting, they'd let us score from this corner.
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If they were sporting, they'd let us score from this corner.
A welcome bit of comedy
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If they were sporting, they'd let us score from this corner.
Bielsa would have let us.
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We seem To be determined to shoot ourselves in the foot
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twice just kicked the ball out now
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Ramsey hamstring gone
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Andy Gray will come on second half and head in a rebound off the post.
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JJ down typical
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Fuck off footballing injury gods
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Ffs, there's Ramsey's traditional catastrophic injury. See him in April, maybe.
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F
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probably the best player too
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While these 2 on commentary wax lyrical about the history of this fixture, there's been no mention of a certain 7-2 result. Funny that.
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JJ injured - again
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Fuck Ramsay has been our best player so far
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Here comes SJM for that magical pace.
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Unbelievable his best game in ages and injured again.
Right McGinn you’ve got plenty to live up to.
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Ffs, there's Ramsey's traditional catastrophic injury. See him in April, maybe.
As good as he is if this continues i would sell him would help massively with FFP. He is so injury prone. Him and cash
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Ffs, there's Ramsey's traditional catastrophic injury. See him in April, maybe.
Which year?
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All in all a pretty good half. Should be level based on what we've created and miles more intensity than anything we've seen since Fulham away.
We need this to be the regular standard from Palace at home.
By far our worse player has been Rogers who's given it away pretty much every time he's received.
Will Ramsey ever catch a break with injuries, a decent half and he then pulls up stretching for the ball.
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biased commentator F O
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Ffs, there's Ramsey's traditional catastrophic injury. See him in April, maybe.
That's a shame.I l do like Ramsey a lot, but I do worry about him, he seems brittle.
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Youri with the needless yellow
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Coote you are a Cnut
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Someone give coote the boote
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With his recurring injury issues, Ramsey is simply not someone we can rely on.
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Should be winning this
Still can’t believe the penalty wasn’t given
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I'm taking the fact that he pulled up, signalled the bench but still made the tackle as a sign that it's not all that bad.
Commentators are pissing me off going back to what they've decided were fouls every few minutes.
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Losing but playing better than I expected really
still in this at the moment
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biased commentator F O
100% w……r
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Pau has been excellent.
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Brilliant pau
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Coote you are a Cnut
He could've easily sent off Bailey if Nunez had missed, couldn't quite believe he was actually saying it was a coming together.
Also no idea how he thought that was a dive from Ollie in the box.
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Coote you are a Cnut
He could've easily sent off Bailey if Nunez had missed, couldn't quite believe he was actually saying it was a coming together.
Also no idea how he thought that was a dive from Ollie in the box.
It was a blatent red for me. So we cant really complain
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Ffs, there's Ramsey's traditional catastrophic injury. See him in April, maybe.
As good as he is if this continues i would sell him would help massively with FFP. He is so injury prone. Him and cash
My thoughts exactly.
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Losing but playing better than I expected really
still in this at the moment
Yep two terrible (repeat mistakes) and one punished, but we’ve played well. Much better than we have of late.
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luca looks injured maybe
played well at times
Rogers awful
Watkins missing chances still but bailey not as bad as he has been recently
JJ had a great half , should be 2 -2
Duran will rough these fcukers up.
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Need a midfielder to bust a gut into the box.Can't see us scoring otherwise
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biased commentator F O
100% w……r
Same as the bbc website an obsession with them.
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Better tonight.
Rogers really poor but he's been great since he came to us. Hooked now or on 60.
Worst case of bias I have heard for years from TNT. Basically criticising the ref on behalf of the home team. Disgraceful.
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Rogers has really struggled.
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Improvement from last few games but i just do not understand why for the life of me we only left bailey back at such a early stage of the game? We do that if you are going for a short corner too? Dont make much sense to me. Unai made a big mistake there
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Sadly Roger’s and Watkins do not look like they are capable of scoring.
We are giving too many stupid goals away.
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Eons better than Wednesday. Rogers off for me, just bang out of form presently. Bailey better than expected. We are such a better team when we move the ball quivker
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OMG the commentary is the most biased I’ve ever heard. It’s infuriatingly one sided.
That aside, we’ve missed some chances again, so will probably again.
But this game proves how close we are to the summit: not far.
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biased commentator F O
100% w……r
You sense he’s almost pissed off that we haven’t rolled over. Twat
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And that is a stone wall penalty all the live long day: ref bottle job at at ‘Anfield under the lights’ (Puke)
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Losing but playing better than I expected really
still in this at the moment
Performance is much better really. 2 x centre halves have been very good. Ramsey was our best I thought, even Bailey much better. 2 x CMs holding their own, though Tielemans yellow is a problem.
Negatives, Rogers has been awful so will have to be hooked at half time. Konsa at RB continues to be where the ball goes to die...
Id push Tielemans forward and bring in Kamara. We need to be a bit more decisive in their box.
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Out of interest is Thor on the sidelines?
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Bailey has done better. We’ll lose this 2 or 3 - 0 I suspect. McGinn has already sold himself to allow counters.
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Sound the Jhlaxon.
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But we have been much better.
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We are still somehow in the game despite Watkins and Rodgers being woeful (again). JJ looked to be our biggest threat and now he's off injured. Bailey has improved and is a vital outlet for us. Other than their counter-attack, Liverpool are very ordinary.
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One down, feels like about twenty for all the prospect there is of us getting back into the game. Eleven against eleven, feels like we've had three sent off (and one should've been). Our corners are attacks for them.
There's just so much space in the middle, we can't keep playing this open 4-4-2, at the very least in these sorts of games. Maybe now McGinn is on it can be balanced out a bit, but man. Far, far too open.
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Rogers has to come off his last few games have been poor. JJ our best player gets injured which is typical, overall a better performance but need to stop giving the ball away cheaply.
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We did match them most of the half. Rogers looks unwell and half a player. Watkins being Watkins. Bailey a disgrace for their goal. Ramsey our best attacking player by along distance and then we loose him to injury. Central midfield and back five did fine IMO bur worrying signs last five minutes when we did start look a bit loosing belief and organisation so I m bit worried second half can be in direction of two last second half we have had.
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If durans coming on it HAS to be for ollie not to play with him
Ollie and rogers been poor
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Need a midfielder to bust a gut into the box.Can't see us scoring otherwise
if mcginn can turn on the ball and drive forward like JJ was, we should get a few chances. We cannot have Rogers giving the ball away and SJM planting his feet shielding the ball putting the hand brake on our transition.
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Fucking abut at the back is going to cost us.
This new routine with Martinez and the Defenders invites mistakes.
Tielmans booking came from a crap out ball giving them a throw when we were in no danger, he got caught out and committed the foul
Should have been a penalty
Keep at it and we might sneak something
Keep giving them the ball and we will be fucked
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Improvement from last few games but i just do not understand why for the life of me we only left bailey back at such a early stage of the game? We do that if you are going for a short corner too? Dont make much sense to me. Unai made a big mistake there
We didn't leave Bailey back he was on the edge of the box when we lost possession. He is always there for corners. The problem is that we normally leave 1 or 2 of the fullbacks deep but this time we let Konsa go into the box, Digne took the corner so we had everyone in the final 3rd and Liverpool have the quickest front line in the league and caught us out.
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I don’t think Bailey was a disgrace for their goal.
I thought he covered well, was up with salah in a footrace and got into enough of a tangle with salah to take him out.
There was no one else backing him up and picking up the runner, and Martinez was in no man’s land.
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Shocking goal to concede but a much better performance, if Ollie had been at his best we might well be leading now. Playing out from the back, we have looked good, played some quality stuff and at a fast pace. Desperately sorry JJ, he looked back to his best, hopefully not serious.
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I don’t think Bailey was a disgrace for their goal.
I thought he covered well, was up with salah in a footrace and got into enough of a tangle with salah to take him out.
There was no one else backing him up and picking up the runner, and Martinez was in no man’s land.
No it’s not on Bailey it’s on how we set up as a team
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I didn't notice at the time but after the Kounate challenge on Ollie for the potential penalty he handles the ball.
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Improvement from last few games but i just do not understand why for the life of me we only left bailey back at such a early stage of the game? We do that if you are going for a short corner too? Dont make much sense to me. Unai made a big mistake there
We didn't leave Bailey back he was on the edge of the box when we lost possession. He is always there for corners. The problem is that we normally leave 1 or 2 of the fullbacks deep but this time we let Konsa go into the box, Digne took the corner so we had everyone in the final 3rd and Liverpool have the quickest front line in the league and caught us out.
He was the furthest person back. This was a tactic used for diaby last season but he did this like towards the end of last season. Not sure why we are not leaving a defender back further at such a early stage of the game.
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We could use one going in off somebody's arse to get us going
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Man wouldnt it be great id bailey scored the winner and you all thw scousers will be cryong that he should have gone
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I don’t think Bailey was a disgrace for their goal.
I thought he covered well, was up with salah in a footrace and got into enough of a tangle with salah to take him out.
There was no one else backing him up and picking up the runner, and Martinez was in no man’s land.
Bailey did well I thought, diced with a red card though but dropped Salah anyway. Martinez went down far too early for the shot too. As Alan Hutton pointed out, Digne's starting position was the problem. But I don't like any tactic that just has two players back like that. Leave Konsa back, at least he can run.
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The amount of chances we miss is ridiculous.
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Rogers the twit
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We seem to have decided we aren't going to score today.
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Watching with sound muted. Cannot deal with the comms right now.
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oh no
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Not playing badly but lack that cutting edge. I prefer Morgan deeper where he can make his runs. Where he is he can't seem to get going.
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How the fuck did he miss that
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That’s an awful miss from rogers
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We've been the better team. I said to my Mrs, we need to watch them on the break from our corner & we didn't. It's not difficult to defend your own corner. Ultimately that will cost us the game.
The second goal will come by 50 mins.
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rogers wtf
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I mean,that's a gimme
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Oh FFS, easier to score from there.
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get him off
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Ffs rogers again fucks sake
This is gonna be same story as spurs
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Morgan has to score there
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We used to be so clinical, wtf happened our finishing
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This is one of them where we miss a fuckload of chances, they scored a second on 65 and a third in stoppage time. Seems to have happened about 20 times before.
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Rogers. WTF!!! Has to score surely.
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His mate Palmer puts that in 99/100, that's the big difference.
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How the fuck did he miss that
Thought he should have checked onto left. Much better from Watkins on the first ball.
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Diaby would have buried that 😵💫
So would have duran
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Our main problem is that we're not hitting the target anything like enough for the chances we're creating, that's been true for a while now.
We should have 2-3 today, much like we should've had a couple by halftime in the week.
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God dammit, Rogers. A goal right after halftime was exactly what we needed
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We miss so many chances.
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When someone’s having a whopper you have to get them off for their own good as well as the teams, would have been better Rogers coming off at half-time
And Watkins be muscled off the ball is the reason Duran should be on
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We miss so many chances.
That is the most painful part of this season so far to me. We are far too wasteful.
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Get Big Jhon on now.
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We miss chances, gift goals and cant keep clean sheets. Thats the reason why we are where we are and our results ahve been as they have
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Diaby would have buried that 😵💫
So would have duran
Rogers has got half the goals Diaby has, with ¾ of the season left.
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We miss chances, gift goals and cant keep clean sheets. Thats the reason why we are where we are and our results ahve been as they have
That’s good then otherwise you’d have nothing to moan about
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Fuck off Bailey
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Ollie keeps trying to take possession on the turn and losses it. Needs to hold it better
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They were lucky as fuck there.
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So many times we get into great positions and it peters out to absolutely fuck all
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thats it leon run into 5 liverpool players
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Bailey 🤦♂️
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They don't look invincible at all, there's a goal or two here for us if we really switch on
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Bailey 🤦♂️
Every time 😫
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I’m not watching but would love to see a lesser spotted “scorchio” right now on here.
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Bailey is fucking dire.
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baileys gone shit
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Fuck me, how long is ihe gonna wait
We’ve got to get better players on and get back into this
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Ffs bailey man
This versions shit
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Walking pace
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Yep, all our attackers, barring the one who went off injured, are massively out of form.
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So sloppy when we get near goal
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We obviously worried them first half because they have gone to being patient and trying to keep the ball
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be nice if they could actually control the ball and not lose it.
The front 3 up to now have been shite just like Wednesday.
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Yep, all our attackers, barring the one who went off injured, are massively out of form.
I'd say it would be very generous to JJ to describe him as "in form".
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If we could just get back to putting some of the chances away, all the other problems will go away as we've not played that badly today.
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Bailey offers nothing..a complete liability
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Set piece delivery is garbage
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thats a pen
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So you’re allowed to pull a shirt then?
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home cookin
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How was that not a pen?
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I knew we wouldn't get it, but that is a penalty.
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VAR Fuck off.
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That's a penalty for me, but never going to be given against Liverpool at anfield.
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That is a penalty
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Hows that not a fucking pen?
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I thought we did a shirt pull before them, so no complaints about that. The subsequent free kick was soft as shite, though.
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How long can you hold the shirt for, FFS
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VAR taking the normal 5 secs to check a possible pen against 'The mighty reds YNWA'.
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I thought we did a shirt pull before them, so no complaints about that. The subsequent free kick was soft as shite, though.
I think it’s more the fact that Pau was clearly the target on the inside run.
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Bailey is their best man at the moment
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carlos twice gave the ball away
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I'm just staggered that Bailey is still on the pitch
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For the love of God get Bailey off
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Bailey needs to get off . that was crap . hes had too many chances
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The referring in this game has been diabolical
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Bailey is horrible
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Attack the ball Villa, come on
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I think the batteries inJohn McGinns arse have run out.
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Duran coming in
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How we miss Barklay
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Has Duran got an earring in ?
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I think the batteries inJohn McGinns arse have run out.
He looks overweight, again.
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I think the batteries inJohn McGinns arse have run out.
He looks overweight, again.
Its gettin to the point where if a 20-25m bid comes in for him we should consider it
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I know we often remark on it, but man, the commentators are nauseating.
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Watkins off, he has been shit for a while now.
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Has Duran got an earring in ?
I think he flippin well has
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Three good penalty shouts. None given.
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Glad hw has realised ollie and duran doea not work
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How we miss Barklay
yes
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Konsa offers nowt at rb
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Time for JPB to make an impression, he's done very little attacking wise this season.
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Bailey and Watkins have been really bad again.
We have no pizzazz. We're flat as fuck.
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Thank goodness those two turds are off. They offer no threat.
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Konsa offers nowt at rb
Its incredible the club never thought what do we do if cash gets injured in the summer
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what happeneed to chiesa , thpught P-lop signed him
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what happeneed to chiesa , thpught P-lop signed him
Injured
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Injured.
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It's probably time to ship Bailey out in January, looks like the the first half of last season was a blip.
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I think the batteries inJohn McGinns arse have run out.
He looks overweight, again.
Its gettin to the point where if a 20-25m bid comes in for him we should consider it
It’s November and you’re already selling JJ, McGinn and Cash? Ruthless.
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Konsa unable to chase back, you know, like a right back has to.
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Time for JPB to make an impression, he's done very little attacking wise this season.
He can't be any worse than flatline Bailey.
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Watching us the past month has been really bad.
Its as if the Byarn game took the entire season's worth of effort.
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Konsa offers nowt at rb
Its incredible the club never thought what do we do if cash gets injured in the summer
I tell you what mate. I dare you to say something positive before the end of the game
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I thought we were being the better side?
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Absolute shite, ref.
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Konsa offers nowt at rb
Its incredible the club never thought what do we do if cash gets injured in the summer
I tell you what mate. I dare you to say something positive before the end of the game
not going to happen
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ref you are awful
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Our midfield looks like it’s sitting very deep now.
Duran is very isolated
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Absolute shite, ref.
That decision is one for the name on the shirt rather than anything that actually constitutes a foul.
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I think the batteries inJohn McGinns arse have run out.
He looks overweight, again.
Its gettin to the point where if a 20-25m bid comes in for him we should consider it
It’s November and you’re already selling JJ, McGinn and Cash? Ruthless.
Quick fire sale !!
Not all at once just candidates to help with FFP as either not delivering or too injury prone
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ref you are awful
...but I like you
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Fuck off ref
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Substitutions have killed us so far.
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Substitutions have killed us so far.
Yep
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Substitutions have killed us so far.
Yep
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what happeneed to chiesa , thpught P-lop signed him
Injured
great signing that then
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The level for which we given a are free kick for a foul seems far higher than for them.
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Yep
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Yep
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Konsa offers nowt at rb
Its incredible the club never thought what do we do if cash gets injured in the summer
I tell you what mate. I dare you to say something positive before the end of the game
It's already been said several times by Villa that they wanted to spend more in the summer but were prevented by FFP.
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We break so badly its unreal
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I forget Onana is on the field for too much of games
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Substitutions have killed us so far.
We were 6 feet under before. Give them a chance.
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ssums Villa up that move
rogers couldnt pass amd mcGinn loses it when we are on the brreak
Onana been ok
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Still only 2 on target isn’t it?
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Are we going to give it a go or what
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Konsa offers nowt at rb
Its incredible the club never thought what do we do if cash gets injured in the summer
I tell you what mate. I dare you to say something positive before the end of the game
I like you 🙂
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I forget Onana is on the field for too much of games
Played well today, I thought.
So, of course he has gone off injured.
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Substitutions have killed us so far.
Yep
true but the two before was shocking
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Come on boys we are still in this
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With all these subs coming on, any chance of subbing these fucking commentators. Their bias has hit new heights tonight.
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Man ,Konsa is getting on my baps
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Konsa offers nowt at rb
Its incredible the club never thought what do we do if cash gets injured in the summer
I imagine they thought "we'll use one of Konsa, Nedeljković or Bogarde depending on the situation and the players available".
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Rogers abysmal
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whats the difference with that
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This refs a cock
Yellow for the same thing they did to us
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Rogers abysmal
Who did we sign him from?
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Oh shirt pulling is a foul then
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With all these subs coming on, any chance of subbing these fucking commentators. Their bias has hit new heights tonight.
She's fine, he's a twat.
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How was the shirt pull on Torres any different?! Fucking hell.
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FFS Konsa
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This ref is a ******, to not give a pen and then give some of these fucking fouls is fucking disgraceful.
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Rogers abysmal
The curse of the Football Focus feature.
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we take too long making our minds up on the break
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There you go. Another brilliant opportunity given up to nothing
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he has to play maatsen in
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Rogers abysmal
Can't believe Emery has left him on, squandering possession constantly. Philogene....miles off it again
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Jaden FFS.
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I hope we never get Coote again
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So that shirt pull is a foul but one in the box isn't?
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Can't see Philogene making it.Really can't.
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Fuck off Ref you spineless c*nt . Shirt pulling only an offence when we do it.
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Jaden FFS.
what the fuck did we sign him for? what a waste of money.
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Oh shirt pulling is a foul then
Not when it's a Villa player in the Liverpool penalty area.
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This referee is a disgrace.
Philogene, too slow FFS
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Another fucking shit corner
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Somebody explain to me why we bent over backwards to re-sign Philogene. Looks as average a Championship player as there is.
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Good from Konsa there.
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no more shitty corners
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Ezri outstanding fucking brilliant
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Somebody explain to me why we bent over backwards to re-sign Philogene. Looks as average a Championship player as there is.
Sold Diaby for him.
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Somebody explain to me why we bent over backwards to re-sign Philogene. Looks as average a Championship player as there is.
Sold Diaby for him.
Well, not quite.
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Somebody explain to me why we bent over backwards to re-sign Philogene. Looks as average a Championship player as there is.
Sold Diaby for him.
Unbelievably bad decision
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Ezri outstanding fucking brilliant
You'll be selling him when he gives away an unnecessary corner in a few minutes.
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Somebody explain to me why we bent over backwards to re-sign Philogene. Looks as average a Championship player as there is.
Sold Diaby for him.
Well, not quite.
I'm sure there are many out there who believe it.
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no more shitty corners
Aiming at the shins of the first defender... Not quite sure what we are aiming for.
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Game over.
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Thanks Carlos, you fucking twat
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another fuck up
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Blow up ref
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Jesus fucking Christ
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get rid of him in january
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Game over
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Wishful defending. Have a good night all.
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And people wonder why i criticise carlos
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Hause wouldn’t be this costly
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Carlos was good today, that was incredibly unlucky.
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It’s quite incredible how many absolutely wank, self inflicted goals we concede.
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If you refuse to score goals, you won't win many matches.
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Shit goals either end of the match with us as the protagonist
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That's our goal difference wiped out as well then. Absolutely useless. Crap defenders, crap substitutions, crap subs in the case of Philogene.
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I wish someone would give Salah a slap on that smug face. It would be worth a red card.
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Carlos is shit, absolutely terrible defender.
*something about stats*
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A shame, we've played well tonight.
This needs to be the standard when we come back after the break, not sterile play against Palace and Brentford.
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Carlos was good today, that was incredibly unlucky.
Agreed on first point but that wasn't unlucky at all. Prat could and should have just headed it out of play.
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We are a mid-table side now for sure
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Rogers miss costly
Utterly predictable sadly
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Game over.
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We lost the game from the corner in the first half, everything since then has been a formality.
Forget the we played well, we matched them, what we did do is throw the game and it’s repetitive and borring.
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‘I must say it looked like Torres instigated the contact’ what the fuck, he stood on his foot you prize twat
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Another breakaway they could have had four from them. Villa are not far off it but individual errors are killing us.
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Carlos is shit, absolutely terrible defender.
*something about stats*
But he is statistically good apparently
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well missed chances , should have had apen , two saves from headers and again shite defending . The last mth of Villa.
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We are a mid-table side now for sure
7th/8th is not mid table.
Bit of arrogance creeping into this site and elsewhere if we're just writing off seasons now when we drop out of top 4.
We will win games playing like this in the next month so have some faith. The less two years have surely earnt that?
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You can’t win a game against Liverpool with 10 men. Bailey wasn’t worth his place on the pitch and Philogene is even worse.
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For once, the international break can't come fast enough!
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You can’t win a game against Liverpool with 10 men. Bailey wasn’t worth his place on the pitch and Philogene is even worse.
I can add a few to that list.
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Maatsen has been very good
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You can’t win a game against Liverpool with 10 men. Bailey wasn’t worth his place on the pitch and Philogene is even worse.
Especially against 12 men.
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They haven't been any great shakes, both goals were absolute gifts
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May sound like sour grapes but it feels like we have played them and the ref tonight.
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May sound like sour grapes but it feels like we have played them and the ref tonight.
It’s sour grapes.
We have been our own worse enemies
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We are a mid-table side now for sure
7th/8th is not mid table.
Bit of arrogance creeping into this site and elsewhere if we're just writing off seasons now when we drop out of top 4.
We will win games playing like this in the next month so have some faith. The less two years have surely earnt that?
If Spurs and Newcastle win their game in hand tomorrow we’ll he 10th. It’s not remotely good enough, we’ve been dire for weeks.
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Just had to turn the volume off I’ve had enough of this completely biased twat
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You can’t win a game against Liverpool with 10 men. Bailey wasn’t worth his place on the pitch and Philogene is even worse.
Rogers has been awful too and his miss was pivotal.
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May sound like sour grapes but it feels like we have played them and the ref tonight.
Have you ever seen us play at Anfield before?
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Pau staying down that long after not being touched was embarrassing
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Genuinely don't understand why Bailey is given a start, especially at tough places like Anfield, where you can't hide. I'd send Philogene out on loan in January.
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I think Darren Fletcher just shot his load.
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We are a mid-table side now for sure
7th/8th is not mid table.
Bit of arrogance creeping into this site
Not the site, just a slightly irrational part it.
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Pau staying down that long after not being touched was embarrassing
The modern game, innit
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What a truly dreadful few weeks it’s been. Confidence has to be pretty low after being so high.
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May sound like sour grapes but it feels like we have played them and the ref tonight.
It’s sour grapes.
We have been our own worse enemies
Yep, the ref didn’t organise our defence from our corner.
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We've turned into last season's Newcastle
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rubbish mcginn
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May sound like sour grapes but it feels like we have played them and the ref tonight.
I read that this combination of ref and VAR have made more incorrect VAR decisions than any other apparently.
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That goal was an absolute killer as we were on top
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What a truly dreadful few weeks it’s been. Confidence has to be pretty low after being so high.
I have been saying it’s like we have played our way into a crisis for absolutely no reason.
The Ipswich game started this.
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You can’t win a game against Liverpool with 10 men. Bailey wasn’t worth his place on the pitch and Philogene is even worse.
Rogers has been awful too and his miss was pivotal.
That miss was absolutely key. How did he fuck it up so badly?
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Maatsen needs to start for me
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Even though we should have had a pen you cant defend thia pathetic defending from some individuals
They really shouldnt be here but stuck with them. I honestly think even having two left sided cbs in mongs and pau would be better than carlos. The guys just shite
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rogers scores and I think we would have gone on and won this. Liverpool was shitting all half and so relieved. We needed that goal but we are missing so many chances.
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We are a mid-table side now for sure
7th/8th is not mid table.
Bit of arrogance creeping into this site and elsewhere if we're just writing off seasons now when we drop out of top 4.
We will win games playing like this in the next month so have some faith. The less two years have surely earnt that?
If Spurs and Newcastle win their game in hand tomorrow we’ll he 10th. It’s not remotely good enough, we’ve been dire for weeks.
We weren't dire tonight.
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rogers scores and I think we would have gone on and won this. Liverpool was shitting all half and so relieved. We needed that goal but we are missing so many chances.
Yep
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Commentator just mixed up Philogene, 12, with Duran, 6"5.
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the end.
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Commentator just mixed up Philogene, 12, with Duran, 6"5.
Cos he is an absolute ******.
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Performance been ok giving the circumstances. This is how Liverpool play - very solid at the back and pacy attacks. We where set up to play our usual style and not to fit or hinder their style. We didnt really threath their goal much and they where always going to score a couple on the breaks with Salah involved. Carlos was good and has been lately IMO unlucky with their last but not at fault for the loss IMO.
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We are a mid-table side now for sure
7th/8th is not mid table.
Bit of arrogance creeping into this site and elsewhere if we're just writing off seasons now when we drop out of top 4.
We will win games playing like this in the next month so have some faith. The less two years have surely earnt that?
If Spurs and Newcastle win their game in hand tomorrow we’ll he 10th. It’s not remotely good enough, we’ve been dire for weeks.
We weren't dire tonight.
Yes but its still 1 win 7. That is simply not good enough
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We are a mid-table side now for sure
7th/8th is not mid table.
Bit of arrogance creeping into this site and elsewhere if we're just writing off seasons now when we drop out of top 4.
We will win games playing like this in the next month so have some faith. The less two years have surely earnt that?
If Spurs and Newcastle win their game in hand tomorrow we’ll he 10th. It’s not remotely good enough, we’ve been dire for weeks.
We weren't dire tonight.
Just not good enough when it really mattered.
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And just called us Arsenal.
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May sound like sour grapes but it feels like we have played them and the ref tonight.
Have you ever seen us play at Anfield before?
Yes but this is far more blatant than usual.
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An absolute ****** trick.
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They really shouldnt be here but stuck with them. I honestly think even having two left sided cbs in mongs and pau would be better than carlos. The guys just shite
Can you seriously not just take 10 seconds more when you write your post so you don't sound so offensive?
Do you care that little about how awful it makes you come across?
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Shit
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Not much luck and a truly awful ref. Why do our var checks take seconds compared to others?
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Maatsen needs to start for me
Absolutely, he's a classy player and I'm not convinced Digne contributes more especially going forward.
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Even though we should have had a pen you cant defend thia pathetic defending from some individuals
They really shouldnt be here but stuck with them. I honestly think even having two left sided cbs in mongs and pau would be better than carlos. The guys just shite
Is that a typo or are you just being deliberately offensive?
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May sound like sour grapes but it feels like we have played them and the ref tonight.
Have you ever seen us play at Anfield before?
Yes but this is far more blatant than usual.
Coote is easily my most disliked ref of the current crop. As mentioned above, it may sound like sour grapes, but he seems to actually be biased against us. Not just tonight, every time he refs one of our games.
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They really shouldnt be here but stuck with them. I honestly think even having two left sided cbs in mongs and pau would be better than carlos. The guys just shite
Can you seriously not just take 10 seconds more when you write your post so you don't sound so offensive?
Do you care that little about how awful it makes you come across?
A typo doesnt make someone come across awful but ill try make improvements
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The point is we are dropping. My mid-table comment is not on where we are now but where we are headed. Over the last few games we have lost the plot and despite keeping in the game for a long time there was no real sense we were going to turn it around. Of course it's Liverpool but other challenging sides are getting results against the harder teams and we are not at the moment. There's a pattern to our play which no longer has a cutting edge. I hope I'm wrong but this feels like a bit of a slump. It will be telling when we come up against teams around us.
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Maatsen needs to start for me
Well, as long as he never starts for Villa, we'll be just fine!
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They really shouldnt be here but stuck with them. I honestly think even having two left sided cbs in mongs and pau would be better than carlos. The guys just shite
Can you seriously not just take 10 seconds more when you write your post so you don't sound so offensive?
Do you care that little about how awful it makes you come across?
A typo doesnt make someone come across awful but ill try make improvements
Just don't make horrible comments and even you will manage to figure it out. You horrible little man
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Thought the game plan worked well. Liverpool created very little. We did well at turning the ball over and last season we would have punished Liverpool. We have lost our cutting edge over the last few weeks. Watkins, Rogers and Bailey below par and thus we are missing those chances. That Rogers miss early in the second half was so crucial. Two shit goals on the break meant it was one of those nights.
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The point is we are dropping. My mid-table comment is not on where we are now but where we are headed. Over the last few games we have lost the plot and despite keeping in the game for a long time there was no real sense we were going to turn it around. Of course it's Liverpool but other challenging sides are getting results against the harder teams and we are not at the moment. There's a pattern to our play which no longer has a cutting edge. I hope I'm wrong but this feels like a bit of a slump. It will be telling when we come up against teams around us.
We already have and we can see what is happening.
Too many changes in too short of time period. The team looks unbalanced ,not focussed and vulnerable.
It’s not working, the set up has made mistakes, we may as well accept that.
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They really shouldnt be here but stuck with them. I honestly think even having two left sided cbs in mongs and pau would be better than carlos. The guys just shite
Can you seriously not just take 10 seconds more when you write your post so you don't sound so offensive?
Do you care that little about how awful it makes you come across?
A typo doesnt make someone come across awful but ill try make improvements
Just don't make horrible comments and even you will manage to figure it out. You horrible little man
What horrible comments ? Calm down you big baby. Why you picking a fight?